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I know of only two porn games I'd place in the same rarified air as LiL (great writing, solid gameplay, dev who gives a shit)-- Out of Touch and The Last Sovereign.
i have finished everything in the new escape the room puzzle quest but i am still not able to see an escape option. should i have done this in a particular order or something? pls help
agree , my other favourites are pale carnations, now&then, eternum , not as good but still very much up there in terms of writing and character
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Your second tier of games looks a lot like mine, all of those are good games.
(PC I've had trouble getting into for taste reasons, even though I think it is very high quality; my problem is simply that i find almost every person in the game unlikable.) I'd also tack Deluca Family onto the T2 list; the gameplay is spotty and the worldbuilding, while rich, is kinda silly-- but the art and story are very good.You don't have permission to view the spoiler content.
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TreelingTired
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At the risk of beating a dead horse, I would like to talk about Our Time Atop This Mattress and how it pertains to the overall design.
If each choice presented leads to a different outcome down the line (and only the Ayane outcome is -currently- available), that's fine.
If this is a case of there being 1 "correct" answer and three wrong answers however.. then I have to say I'm losing a bit of patience here.
If each choice presented leads to a different outcome down the line (and only the Ayane outcome is -currently- available), that's fine.
If this is a case of there being 1 "correct" answer and three wrong answers however.. then I have to say I'm losing a bit of patience here.
barglenarglezous
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Sel has made it abundantly clear that this is a "one true path" game. Choices are traps.
k1n5l4y3r
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Just remember that Selebus is a person that very much embodies the saying: "It's my way or the highway".
JelF547
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Some extra chapter 3 stats
1) Chapter 3 was 437 days from 0.25.0part1 to 0.36.0. Chapter 2 was 459 days, so surprisingly it wasn't a record. Or was, if we start measuring from 0.24.0 release. Anyways it is close
2) 0.27.0 is 80k words for 22 events, which is all-time record of events size
3) On the other side, 0.29 is 20 events and 60k words in 69 (nice) days, which is an anti-record of game development speed (excluding 0.24.0). 0.36 is going to be new record holder if we ignore generic events, so chapter 3 is not that suck by comparsion
4) There is 520k words in 2023 and 525k words in 2022. The trick is that 0.24, which took 4 months, doesn't count. However, 300k of 2022 worlds are made in 4 months of chapter 3 development. Netherless, chapter 3 is still slowest with average 1876 words per day.
Looking forward for 2024. 200 planned events is still less than average (237), but at least average event size in chapter 3 is 3131 words, compated to all-time average of 2703, so my approximation is 626k words agains average 602k
1) Chapter 3 was 437 days from 0.25.0part1 to 0.36.0. Chapter 2 was 459 days, so surprisingly it wasn't a record. Or was, if we start measuring from 0.24.0 release. Anyways it is close
2) 0.27.0 is 80k words for 22 events, which is all-time record of events size
3) On the other side, 0.29 is 20 events and 60k words in 69 (nice) days, which is an anti-record of game development speed (excluding 0.24.0). 0.36 is going to be new record holder if we ignore generic events, so chapter 3 is not that suck by comparsion
4) There is 520k words in 2023 and 525k words in 2022. The trick is that 0.24, which took 4 months, doesn't count. However, 300k of 2022 worlds are made in 4 months of chapter 3 development. Netherless, chapter 3 is still slowest with average 1876 words per day.
Looking forward for 2024. 200 planned events is still less than average (237), but at least average event size in chapter 3 is 3131 words, compated to all-time average of 2703, so my approximation is 626k words agains average 602k
DSasha
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Chapter 3 is the longest in term of words right?
Idk if it is because of the pace of the game or because most of the story now is told through chain-link events, but it felt like the shortest
Idk if it is because of the pace of the game or because most of the story now is told through chain-link events, but it felt like the shortest
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DSasha
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Now that I think of, the Casca think did actually happened huh
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JelF547
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820k vs 884k chapter 2. Chapter 1 was 582k before 0.24 (based on official changelog info)
According to my measurements, 0.1.0 - 0.6.0 was as eventfull as 0.7.0-0.16.0, and since 0.17.0 there were less important events, than in 0.1.0-0.6.0. I still need to update underlying model, because it does not feels like this, but there is major loss of pace since 3rd reset anyways
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GSwole
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3rd to 4th reset was a lot of focus on subplots and less linear in terms of the main story and plot development which is why you'd feel that way
JelF547
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I am measuring character development, not main story / plot development. There is problem that the deeper we are in character stories than less it could be measured by formal metrics, but it feels safe to compare first floor development during first chapter and second floor development during second and third chapter
The author talks so much about hating ntr, so why would he have the best girl lose her first kiss to someone not us in the christmas event? Makes my heart so sad
DeSkel15
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More or less. I was prepared for far worse to be honest. Probably why last update didn't hit as hard for me as it did for others. Paper City even had me more nostalgic than sad.
Blacksouls may have broke me lol.
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DeSkel15
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Sel wants us to suffer. Pseudo NTR is just one way to accomplish this. Sel dislikes it because it's effective.The author talks so much about hating ntr, so why would he have the best girl lose her first kiss to someone not us in the christmas event? Makes my heart so sad
I struggle to see this game ending well for those wanting the girls to be theirs, tbh. Or ending well at all. At least in the "Happily Ever After" sense.
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I find it’s a mixture of things. The game has become bogged down with recurring events, Halloween, Christmas, dorm wars, beach trip… not to mention resets. All of these events barely push anything forward and result in a huge chunk of the updates just devoted to wheel spinning.
On top of that the updates being devoted to a set number of characters each getting a set number of events regardless of how much he wants to move that plot along results in countless events of basically filler.
And there are just too many characters. He wants a slow burn with most of them, and you couple that with a game of thrones size cast and well, it can be years before a character you may have been invested in is more than a background character.
I think this game would feel less tedious if he limited the recurring events to 2 a year and the character updates wouldn’t thes 3-4 girls get 3-4 events. Instead just have 9-12 events or whatever the update average is where they could all be the same or all be different girls based on what story is actually worth telling. But as one of the stated purposes of the game is to waste player time, that seems unlikely.