Ren'Py Lessons in Love [v0.49.0] [Selebus]

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aramaug

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Moonflare said:
Regarding the hallway during the Ami sacrifice, although Akira doesn't seem to remember what happened to Ami then, he later seems to recall Ami dying. Someone else can either confirm or deny this as I can't remember the specific event in which it happens.
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DeSkel15 said:
Sensei mentions Ami died in the 'On the Count of Three' Main Event in Chapter 4:
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Adding to this, Sensei has flashbacks of Ami's dead body in Miku's event "Bonerville" when she suggests doing karaoke.

In regards to the hallway and Ami's death, I just read through "The End of the World" again and noticed something new (to me at least). As Maya and Ayane note, Ami was sitting between them but they didn't see her leave. The last thing that happens before Ami disappears is that Sana says "slip" in hex and we fade to black.
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Once we can see again, Ami is gone and there is suddenly a window behind Maya and Ayane that wasn't there before. It shows a blue sky when it's supposed to be nighttime.
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It seems to me that they actually slipped to a different world when Sana said it. That fits with something else: prior to the slip, Sensei doesn't speak at all, like he's blacked out. After the slip he immediately starts talking again. We know Sensei blacks out when his mind slips - so it's quite possible that he had already slipped to the new world before the rest of them.

Add that to something which has been discussed before: when they return to the room after seeing Ami's body, there's another Ami wearing her Maya costume sitting behind Sensei. Ayane and Maya are apparently unaware of her.
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So here's some questions: is the dead Ami in the hallway the original Ami from the world that they slipped to, rather than "our Ami"? Did something (the Old One?) kill her so that our Ami could take her place? Since Sensei slipped before the rest, did he witness her murder? If he blames himself, did he do something to cause it or did he just not prevent it?
 
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shmurfer said:
It won't cause any problems unless your save was inside of a modified scene, if you were inside one of the daily menus it should be fine. You should absolutely redownload the game at that point, 0.42 had a renpy upgrade and it will improve loading times and you can't get the upgrade from patches.

If you want green path hints, pick Tsukasa. The next choice with her, Take It. With Otoha, share the photo. If you were using the guide mod before, you will still need it now. Did you take the shampoo?


Sorry but can you elaborate on the modified scenes and daily menus and are you referring to the shampoo that if you pick it up it like locks the dorms?. I iirc it was during one of the reset events?

And I could just copy and paste everything from my previous save file(s) from the old version to the latest one?
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Igniterias said:
Sorry but can you elaborate on the modified scenes and daily menus and are you referring to the shampoo that if you pick it up it like locks the dorms?. I iirc it was during one of the reset events?

And I could just copy and paste everything from my previous save file(s) from the old version to the latest one?
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You broke your post a bit. I don't know what happens if you're inside of a scene when it's modified, that's kind of the problem. but if you got to the menus where you pick where to go for the day, you should be safe. Just try it instead of questioning it first, and then go back a save until you find one that works if it's broken.

Renpy should have made its own copy of your save files but you could manually copy them across again if you need to. Just try load up the game on its own first.
 
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shmurfer said:
You broke your post a bit. I don't know what happens if you're inside of a scene when it's modified, that's kind of the problem. but if you got to the menus where you pick where to go for the day, you should be safe. Just try it instead of questioning it first, and then go back a save until you find one that works if it's broken.

Renpy should have made its own copy of your save files but you could manually copy them across again if you need to. Just try load up the game on its own first.
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So by "modified scenes" you're talking about saves where I used the URM to change choices like for example changing from bad homie to good homie in a chapter 4 save?

Didn't bother using that and simply had the guide tool (not the ingame one) to progress, any long term choices that I regret (for example getting to a bad homie route with Rin) I simply backrolled to an ancient save and skipped to the present from there.

Any more choices I should pick if my goal were to simply get ALL the scenes

At the top of my head I'm at a save with good homie, fucked ami, threesome with Chika(I should get a save where I chose Yumi for 'future' uses), chose Wizard Tsukasa, and gave Otoha the pic)

I'll make another save when I reach that choice with Io out of sheer wanting to not betray my green loner.
 
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Igniterias said:
So by "modified scenes" you're talking about saves where I used the URM to change choices like for example changing from bad homie to good homie in a chapter 4 save?

Didn't bother using that and simply had the guide tool (not the ingame one) to progress, any long term choices that I regret (for example getting to a bad homie route with Rin) I simply backrolled to an ancient save and skipped to the present from there.

Any more choices I should pick if my goal were to simply get ALL the scenes

At the top of my head I'm at a save with good homie, fucked ami, threesome with Chika(I should get a save where I chose Yumi for 'future' uses), chose Wizard Tsukasa, and gave Otoha the pic)

I'll make another save when I reach that choice with Io out of sheer wanting to not betray my green loner.
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Modified scenes as in Sel changed something in the scene. You can lose the reference to where you save was when it happens.
Don't bother with the Yumi threesome it won't lead anywhere, Ayane was the correct choice.
 
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Igniterias said:
So by "modified scenes" you're talking about saves where I used the URM to change choices like for example changing from bad homie to good homie in a chapter 4 save?

Didn't bother using that and simply had the guide tool (not the ingame one) to progress, any long term choices that I regret (for example getting to a bad homie route with Rin) I simply backrolled to an ancient save and skipped to the present from there.

Any more choices I should pick if my goal were to simply get ALL the scenes

At the top of my head I'm at a save with good homie, fucked ami, threesome with Chika(I should get a save where I chose Yumi for 'future' uses), chose Wizard Tsukasa, and gave Otoha the pic)

I'll make another save when I reach that choice with Io out of sheer wanting to not betray my green loner.
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Off the top of my head:
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Edit: You also have to watch "Abyss" before "Little Miracles". Honestly, there's a lot, one should use the guide mod because it's not always clear in a sensible manner.
 
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Fuck it, I think I'll ignore my responsibilities for a day and try finish the update tomorrow. Probably will only be able to finish my main save so hopefully I don't get any missed events on that one. Guess I'll play the second save In the drought after the fan month thing.
 
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Apollo259 said:
Fuck it, I think I'll ignore my responsibilities for a day and try finish the update tomorrow. Probably will only be able to finish my main save so hopefully I don't get any missed events on that one. Guess I'll play the second save In the drought after the fan month thing.
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There was a green save just posted if you're just trying to see the updated scenes. No need to rush your main saves if you're still completing the game.
 
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shmurfer said:
There was a green save just posted if you're just trying to see the updated scenes. No need to rush your main saves if you're still completing the game.
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My second is a green. I'd use that but I'm mostly interested in the Yumi events and In case of any slight variations depending on past choices id rather use the main where I actually remember the choices I made. Can just replay the update next month on the main save if I have to.

Edit: I guess I should clarify. I'm up to date. I'm talking about playing 0.48 tomorrow. It should be out by then right?
 
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DeSkel15 said:
It's been almost two years, but the Maya connection to the Vending Machines, etc was discussed.

Just to add to it, Maya does seem familiar with Net Cafes, and collects Masks which appear in the 'S.E.K.A.I.' Happy Event.

Also, New Maya implied that Sensei had taken her virginity, so she wasn't completely raped (probably), but Maya Prime also noted they were both fucked up before they got together. So, something did likely happen to her. Possibly involving a family member.
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'Kay that's nice and all. But what made me hesitate on it was that narrator in S.E.K.A.I said that the girl declined the offer and went on her way while Maya probably accepted it. It makes me wonder if the narrator lied intentionally and reason for that.

Also do you mind citing where Maya does seem familiar with Net Cafes? I know Maya collects masks in her dorm.

And on what happened in hallway. Well then it's plausible that Akira knew Ami died in subconscious yes. Though the one Ami talked to in Rain King seems to be sentinent and was able to communciate normally. Still I'm desperate to connect it with bared Maya standing at the end of school hallway for some reason. Do you have any idea?

About what murdered Ami, no idea. My initial guess was Sekai since Ami didn't seem like the type who would follow a stranger. And I think what Parrot screamed missing was Sekai instead of Ami, and sacrifice on a surface level was parrot itself. Or if we consider each god yearns for a sacrifice, Ami was the sacrifice for Sekai (Pareidolia)? Or was it Maya? Doesn't matter they both died in this reset. I'm so dead set on Ami being Maya that I'd consider Maya being molested by a relative a roundabout way for Akira to condemn himself.
 
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'Kay that's nice and all. But what made me hesitate on it was that narrator in S.E.K.A.I said that the girl declined the offer and went on her way while Maya probably accepted it. It makes me wonder if the narrator lied intentionally and reason for that.

Also do you mind citing where Maya does seem familiar with Net Cafes? I know Maya collects masks in her dorm.

And on what happened in hallway. Well then it's plausible that Akira knew Ami died in subconscious yes. Though the one Ami talked to in Rain King seems to be sentinent and was able to communciate normally. Still I'm desperate to connect it with bared Maya standing at the end of school hallway for some reason. Do you have any idea?

About what murdered Ami, no idea. My initial guess was Sekai since Ami didn't seem like the type who would follow a stranger. And I think what Parrot screamed missing was Sekai instead of Ami, and sacrifice on a surface level was parrot itself. Or if we consider each god yearns for a sacrifice, Ami was the sacrifice for Sekai (Pareidolia)? Or was it Maya? Doesn't matter they both died in this reset. I'm so dead set on Ami being Maya that I'd consider Maya being molested by a relative a roundabout way for Akira to condemn himself.
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I feel like Maya Prime mentioned Internet Cafes at various points, but the only time that's coming to mind is when she suggested that Noriko sleep in one:
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It seems inconsequential, but this being her first real suggestion when Noriko implies she doesn't know where she's going to sleep, feels like it says a lot about Maya. Especially since she's in a frustrated state of mind, and just wants her gone asap.

Also, there was actually 3 deaths in that Reset. Maya's, Ami's, and someone from the Halloween party:
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I'm unsure of why, but assuming there's a reason for 3 deaths, it could be related to there being 3 gods, moons, and at the time, members of the RAS.

Getting to the rooftop, and the requirements to do so, still aren't all that explained.
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Unfortunately, I can't really say much about the Maya at the end of the school hallway, like in the Chapter 1 'Tick Tock Tick Tock Tick Tock' Happy Event. It does seem related to the Wishing Well, though, and possibly to Maya barricading the school hallways with boxes. It's a mystery.

Still, the Ami in Chapter 3's 'Rain King' Happy Event, referring to that school hallway instead of what had recently happened in the karaoke hallway, seems unlikely.
 
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