Ren'Py Lessons in Love [v0.49.0] [Selebus]

[TheGoodPastor]

Yoyoyo everyone, a completely serious, apropos of nothing question, to Americans and non-Americans here, what's your opinion on American jokes in LiL? Cause now every time I see Touka just nonchalantly alluding to some random American star (hopefully it doesn't offend anyone here), I don't even bother searching it. I'm like "kay' another anachronism nobody cares" and just go over it. Anime references I'm expecting since it's a visual novel but American culture things...? Does anyone else really get it and find it funny or humorous?

I don't really think it's a huge deal, I'm not American and the only thing I can think of that I didn't pick up on was Chuck-e-Cheese (which I can only assume is some sort of fast food place that sells fistfuls of cheese, probably fried) and it's hardly an important plot device. It's not like there's a constant barrage of obscure Americanisms through the whole story and any author's writing is obviously going to be coloured somewhat by their own culture - especially for something like this, it would be kind of weird to have like a million lines of dialogue from highschool girls and not have any of them ever make any kind of reference to what music they like or whatever lol

Besides, asides from anime references it's pretty common for Japanese VN's/manga/anime to reference Japanese culture, television, celebrities, history, etc. which most Western readers are far less likely to be familiar with than anything like that in this game. I imagine in both instances people just gloss over it if they don't get the reference.

 

[TheGoodPastor]

Rin homies may have reason to rejoice. Io Events 1/1, but Animations still at 1/2. First animation was completed at same time as Imani Events 1/1. Or he could just cuck everyone with another Chika/Rin yuri scene. Give the people the Rinsploosh, Celibass!

Better yet, Rin and someone else.

She's gonna work her way through his entire harem, and there's nothing Sensei can do to stop her

 

[LoveRedHairedGirl]

Yoyoyo everyone, a completely serious, apropos of nothing question, to Americans and non-Americans here, what's your opinion on American jokes in LiL? Cause now every time I see Touka just nonchalantly alluding to some random American star (hopefully it doesn't offend anyone here), I don't even bother searching it. I'm like "kay' another anachronism nobody cares" and just go over it. Anime references I'm expecting since it's a visual novel but American culture things...? Does anyone really get it and find it funny or humorous?

Non-American here.
I don't think it's Americanism or something like this. I think it's more like just Touka and Tsukasa's thing. And it's kinda funny, even though I don't even know these actors.

 

[Moonflare]

what's your opinion on American jokes in LiL? I'm like "kay' another anachronism nobody cares" and just go over it. Anime references I'm expecting since it's a visual novel but American culture things...? Does anyone really get it and find it funny or humorous?

I think this evokes a certain discussion about the notion of LiL being in a Japanese city (it's clearly not).

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Back to the question, I think that it's there because Selebus is American and so is most of his target audience. I think we could do without it, but he's not a perfect author.

I didn't go search for Shohei Otani when he was brought up, and was honestly kind of annoyed that it lasted so long in that scene - but I was way more annoyed at the Bojack thing, and those are the moments that an editor would certainly delete from the final product because it's just Selebus not knowing when to either shut up, or how to convey his ideas properly through actual plot and characters, and instead pausing the game to throw a freeform at us.

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[Mike.Ross80]

Rin homies may have reason to rejoice. Io Events 1/1, but Animations still at 1/2. First animation was completed at same time as Imani Events 1/1. Or he could just cuck everyone with another Chika/Rin yuri scene. Give the people the Rinsploosh, Celibass!

Don't the animations usually happen after an invite over? And aren't there usually 2 different invite over events. I think a couple might have been dorm room meetups but that seems less likely now.

I don't feel like we are gonna see Rin there yet; when's the next beach party scheduled? I feel that is soon ish and msotly likely when we will see something occur for her.

 

[jclark1337]

Yoyoyo everyone, a completely serious, apropos of nothing question, to Americans and non-Americans here, what's your opinion on American jokes in LiL? Cause now every time I see Touka just nonchalantly alluding to some random American star (hopefully it doesn't offend anyone here), I don't even bother searching it. I'm like "kay' another anachronism nobody cares" and just go over it. Anime references I'm expecting since it's a visual novel but American culture things...? Does anyone really get it and find it funny or humorous?

As an American I find it about as entertaining as any other cultural celebrity reference. Whether I know them or not it's usually mildly amusing at best. It's a cheap form of comedy but I also recognize that it's not that serious and it doesn't bother me enough to complain about it personally.

I can see why it would annoy some people tho

 

[falco256]

Talking about Sana.

Sometimes i wonder how she would feel if Sensei just raped her and forced things, how that would have developed at story and the casual events. Now we know Sana's kinks but how things could have gone before she started changing.

I'd settle for him having a frank discussion and admitting that he wanted to, or thought about it. I think it would probably be cathartic for both of them... then they'd prolly RP it, I remember there used to be an older Ami scene that was like that, but think it got tweaked and tamed.

 

[Sprungler]

I love Noriko

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[shmurfer]

Rin homies may have reason to rejoice. Io Events 1/1, but Animations still at 1/2. First animation was completed at same time as Imani Events 1/1. Or he could just cuck everyone with another Chika/Rin yuri scene. Give the people the Rinsploosh, Celibass!

Can you share the changelogs? I thought we were getting 2 animations in 0.50, and just 1 bonus animation in 0.49.


If we're not getting animations in 0.50 now my Noriko dream is dead.

Yoyoyo everyone, a completely serious, apropos of nothing question, to Americans and non-Americans here, what's your opinion on American jokes in LiL? Cause now every time I see Touka just nonchalantly alluding to some random American star (hopefully it doesn't offend anyone here), I don't even bother searching it. I'm like "kay' another anachronism nobody cares" and just go over it. Anime references I'm expecting since it's a visual novel but American culture things...? Does anyone really get it and find it funny or humorous?

Lessons in Love is "ironic" Japanese media, and making American jokes is a staple of Japanese media. It's low hanging fruit, but scenes need filler sometimes so its fine.

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[LoveRedHairedGirl]

Can you share the changelogs? I thought we were getting 2 animations in 0.50, and just 1 bonus animation in 0.49.


If we're not getting animations in 0.50 now my Noriko dream is dead.



Lessons in Love is "ironic" Japanese media, and making American jokes is a staple of Japanese media. It's low hanging fruit, but scenes need filler sometimes so its fine.

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There's 0 animations in 0.49 and 2 animations in 0.50

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[shmurfer]

There's 0 animations in 0.49 and 2 animations in 0.50

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That's what I thought it was, but they said animations 1/2 and io events 1/1 which doesn't track with these old changelogs. So either there's new changelogs on the lilcord or they're conflating update progress across both updates.


I know we're getting a yumi bonus animation in 0.49 so I wouldn't have been surprised by 1/1 but they said 1/2, and previous updates have shown that both the slow and fast sex version of animations are combined into 1 animation for update counts. 0.46's 2 animations being Imani and Kirin for example.

 

[LoveRedHairedGirl]

I know we're getting a yumi bonus animation in 0.49

A what.
Is that the old thing where Sel's subs chose to make Yumi loli?

 

[shmurfer]

A what.
Is that the old thing where Sel's subs chose to make Yumi loli?

Yes, loli yumi ebiken bonus animation coming in 0.49 and you'll have enter a cheat to see it. Happened a little bit before lilfest.

 

[Pedro4545454]

There's 0 animations in 0.49 and 2 animations in 0.50

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I must say that I'm very excited for 0.50, I may be exaggerating, but I believe that she will be very important.

Ami: She has shown herself to be extremely important, already knowing about the resets and the alternative timelines.

Maya, Ayane and Yumi have knowledge of the Resets (But I believe that Yumi's will be connected to Yuki's events.)

Yuki: We now have the information that she is declining because of cancer, so there is already a big plot for her.

Sara: Her events will probably also be focused on Yuki, I don't think that Selly will now enter her plot involving the gods, it will probably involve Yuki's cancer.

Noriko: She already had her first "happy event" going to another plane/dimension, which already leaves her as a possible future member of the apocalypse squad.

Niki: I believe that the events will be focused on her and Ami and maybe with Akira, the plot has already made it very clear that there will be some kind of fight between her and Sekai, so I think it will focus on that now and not so much on her and Akira.

As I said, I may be exaggerating, but I believe that this will be an update that will reveal some interesting and important information.

 

[Sprungler]

Why is 0.50 taking 2 months instead of 1?

 

[Sprungler]

That reminds me, can you not lose affection points in this game?
I told noriko I'd kill her, and well, nothing happened

 

[Pedro4545454]

Why is 0.50 taking 2 months instead of 1?

Selly is going to take a month off so he doesn't get overwhelmed.

 

[Sprungler]

Selly is going to take a month off so he doesn't get overwhelmed.

And so it begins

 

[TBone9]

I don't really think it's a huge deal, I'm not American and the only thing I can think of that I didn't pick up on was Chuck-e-Cheese (which I can only assume is some sort of fast food place that sells fistfuls of cheese, probably fried) and it's hardly an important plot device. It's not like there's a constant barrage of obscure Americanisms through the whole story and any author's writing is obviously going to be coloured somewhat by their own culture - especially for something like this, it would be kind of weird to have like a million lines of dialogue from highschool girls and not have any of them ever make any kind of reference to what music they like or whatever lol

Chuck-e-Cheese is a giant, anthropomorphic rat (seriously) who is the mascot of a kid-friendly pizza restaurant chain of the same name. It also featured games where you could win tickets that could be exchanged for merchandise, usually requiring an investment of much more than the prize was actually worth. From what I understand, the pizza is pretty run-of-the-mill and the only reason to go there is to keep your kids entertained for a few hours.

 

[hcguy]

Chuck-e-Cheese is a giant, anthropomorphic rat (seriously) who is the mascot of a kid-friendly pizza restaurant chain of the same name. It also featured games where you could win tickets that could be exchanged for merchandise, usually requiring an investment of much more than the prize was actually worth. From what I understand, the pizza is pretty run-of-the-mill and the only reason to go there is to keep your kids entertained for a few hours.

Where I live, Chuck-E-Cheese serves alcohol, and there have been several occurrences of parents getting into drunken brawls there at kids' birthday parties.