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Moonflare

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I am back from playing "Out of touch" for the first time and what a delight it was to see a story that leaves no doubt that the dev knows where the plot is going and everything actually connects.

Mind you, LiL has A LOT of things done better, but that one point made me weep thinking just how much pointless noise this game has.

They're both at about 50%, and that one actually feels like the middle of the story. There's a huge plot twist, almost every thread set thus far is pulled and we get ready to the second and final half.

More than anything I think it's interesting to compare in terms of style of writing. In oot I have little doubt that it will end and that everything will be answered because that's just how well formated and structured everything is. Again, it's really interesting to compare.
 

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Hello guys, I`m new here and there is one thing I cann`t get at all.
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Yes, Himawari (assumed) in narrator form explains it after the church quiz.

It was never about the information that Akira remembers, but his mental state. Thus, Niki and Noriko can do almost whatever to Akira and he can tune it off, but with Maya it would cause a breakdown. It's because of how it makes him feel.

Maya kids about how her telling him she loves him is the real deal versus Niki telling him, but that seems to be actual fact.

However, do mind that Akira can't just hear anything from Noriko. He very much starts having issues when she tries to tell him about when she saw him last in the old district with Maya (assumed).
 

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I am back from playing "Out of touch" for the first time and what a delight it was to see a story that leaves no doubt that the dev knows where the plot is going and everything actually connects.

Mind you, LiL has A LOT of things done better, but that one point made me weep thinking just how much pointless noise this game has.

They're both at about 50%, and that one actually feels like the middle of the story. There's a huge plot twist, almost every thread set thus far is pulled and we get ready to the second and final half.

More than anything I think it's interesting to compare in terms of style of writing. In oot I have little doubt that it will end and that everything will be answered because that's just how well formated and structured everything is. Again, it's really interesting to compare.
As you've seen i have a hard time remembering all of Oot, because it also has some age to it.
But it's still easier for me to put those loose ends together somehow than it is with Lil.
Things there just fall into place quit a bit easier than it does with lil.
I guess because Oot is lacking the philosophical ramblings.

Ps:
Hope certain individuals don't shank us because "felt ot" game talk :ROFLMAO:
 

Moonflare

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I feel that we're fine as long as we're comparing the two. Tbh i fee like OoT tackled philosophy MUCH more than LiL. Especially fatalism and transcendence.

Granted, it is also surreal that I've been able to play half of the entire planned story in 3 days, whereas LiL is also at 50% and it takes a month and a half at least :ROFLMAO:

But, for instance, in story direction, I feel like OoT is like if LiL had stuck with its initial analogies and at most revealed a plot twist to that (like the light, darkness and the rope). Whereas one just keeps revealing its secrets and providing discussions about it, Selebus keeps adding and adding without really explaining much.
 
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BlackDays

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I feel that we're fine as long as we're comparing the two. Tbh i fee like OoT tackled philosophy MUCH more than LiL. Especially fatalism and transcendence.

Granted, it is also surreal that I've been able to play half of the entire planned story in 3 days, whereas LiL is also at 50% and it takes a month and a half at least :ROFLMAO:

But, for instance, in story direction, I feel like OoT is like if LiL had stuck with its initial analogies and at most revealed a plot twist to that (like the light, darkness and the rope). Whereas one just keeps revealing its secrets and providing discussions about it, Selebus keeps adding and adding without really explaining much.
Yeah, i once had the audacity to talk about Oot here to ask Bingoogus about his opinion (he's/was also reading it), and someone tried to axe me... and Bingoogus silenced that guy. Funny memories :ROFLMAO:

While the funny thing is, as i said, Lil and Oot had a crosspromotion thing going on, so any talk about those two should be okayish in both threads.

Anyway...
To be a bit fair, Lil is going one of the possible VN/Dating Sim routes with it's affection/lust values and the (unusual) overboarding amount of choices.
Where Oot is quit straight forward. It also has multiple choice stuff, though nowadays simplified with the icon.
While, the icon is a qol feature and wasn't there from the beginning, which could lead to missed events.
 

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Playthrough #3 completed

I wonder how many minutes I can last before starting playthrough #4

not that many
 
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Yeah, i once had the audacity to talk about Oot here to ask Bingoogus about his opinion (he's/was also reading it), and someone tried to axe me... and Bingoogus silenced that guy. Funny memories :ROFLMAO:

While the funny thing is, as i said, Lil and Oot had a crosspromotion thing going on, so any talk about those two should be okayish in both threads.

Anyway...
To be a bit fair, Lil is going one of the possible VN/Dating Sim routes with it's affection/lust values and the (unusual) overboarding amount of choices.
Where Oot is quit straight forward. It also has multiple choice stuff, though nowadays simplified with the icon.
While, the icon is a qol feature and wasn't there from the beginning, which could lead to missed events.
that was years ago
sillybussy hates story anon now and anon could give less of a fuck
 

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Sorry if this is the wrong place to ask, but I need some help figuring out how to use URM for this game on a new replay. After consulting with the guide video on the URM homepage on how to change variables, I attempted to start changing variables in LiL, but they don't show up as numerical variables but rather as a string of text. I seem to be a bit too smooth-brained to figure this out without a nudge from the URM veterans in this thread, and before anyone asks, I did try the search function in this thread and the URM thread to see if I could figure this out myself to no avail. Screenshots included below for clarity's sake, and thank you in advance for any advice. Trying to Use URM 1.PNG Trying to Use URM 2.PNG
 

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Sorry if this is the wrong place to ask, but I need some help figuring out how to use URM for this game on a new replay. After consulting with the guide video on the URM homepage on how to change variables, I attempted to start changing variables in LiL, but they don't show up as numerical variables but rather as a string of text. I seem to be a bit too smooth-brained to figure this out without a nudge from the URM veterans in this thread, and before anyone asks, I did try the search function in this thread and the URM thread to see if I could figure this out myself to no avail. Screenshots included below for clarity's sake, and thank you in advance for any advice. View attachment 4895129 View attachment 4895130
Please put images behind spoilers. That said, search for 'love' and 'lust'.
 

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But, for instance, in story direction, I feel like OoT is like if LiL had stuck with its initial analogies and at most revealed a plot twist to that (like the light, darkness and the rope). Whereas one just keeps revealing its secrets and providing discussions about it, Selebus keeps adding and adding without really explaining much.
This made me want to check out Out of Touch, so thank you.
About LiL, i'm fine with selebus not explaining things. You already do that. What i hate and find draining about lil is, constantly changing focus. I'm fine with overly crptic Tss events. But if you show me a cooking competition after that, i'm gonna find it boring and dragging. And you shouldn't do that to your characters since rest of the story is a jigsaw puzzle with other half of the pieces to come in 4 years.
 

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that was years ago
sillybussy hates story anon now and anon could give less of a fuck
Are you sure? I don't think I've ever seen Sel or StoryAnon actually hate each other (well OOT had that one recap scene making fun of LiL). Both seem to just really hate Lil-clones. The OOT community I've engaged with absolutely loathe LiL though
 

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Sorry if this is the wrong place to ask, but I need some help figuring out how to use URM for this game on a new replay. After consulting with the guide video on the URM homepage on how to change variables, I attempted to start changing variables in LiL, but they don't show up as numerical variables but rather as a string of text. I seem to be a bit too smooth-brained to figure this out without a nudge from the URM veterans in this thread, and before anyone asks, I did try the search function in this thread and the URM thread to see if I could figure this out myself to no avail. Screenshots included below for clarity's sake, and thank you in advance for any advice. View attachment 4895129 View attachment 4895130
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GSwole

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Are you sure? I don't think I've ever seen Sel or StoryAnon actually hate each other (well OOT had that one recap scene making fun of LiL). Both seem to just really hate Lil-clones. The OOT community I've engaged with absolutely loathe LiL though
the active oot community takes every chance to shit on lil they can
most dont care
sillybus took offense at some jokes a rando made about going kill him since they both live in
the same city in texas and anon didnt chastise them
 
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