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Any skilled swordsman has a massive advantage against an unarmed human.

Tsuneyo, with a (steel) sword, trounces Osako and Ayane (simultaneously). Osako can handily beat an unarmed Ayane-Tsuneyo team. Ayane defeats Tsuneyo unarmed, with some difficulty. Ayane armed with a gun can dominate anyone, supernatural powers excluded (her "gun materialization" skill itself is magical, so... probably other characters have things like that, especially Tsuneyo, who is canonically capable of conversing with birds
and is the only daughter of an Eldritch God)

Sensei is similarly capable of conversing with birds. I wonder what's up with that.

All in all, my money is on Tsuneyo if everything's allowed; because I believe her trump card is much stronger than mere gun materialization. Ayane, when limited to unarmed combat, or Osako (if we were to include her). And Tsuneyo again if she's allowed to keep her sword.
 
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Any skilled swordsman has a massive advantage against an unarmed human.

Tsuneyo, with a (steel) sword, trounces Osako and Ayane (simultaneously). Osako can handily beat an unarmed Ayane-Tsuneyo team. Ayane defeats Tsuneyo unarmed, with some difficulty. Ayane armed with a gun can dominate anyone, supernatural powers excluded (her "gun materialization" skill itself is magical, so... probably other characters have things like that, especially Tsuneyo, who is canonically capable of conversing with birds
and is the only daughter of an Eldritch God)

Sensei is similarly capable of conversing with birds. I wonder what's up with that.

All in all, my money is on Tsuneyo if everything's allowed; because I believe her trump card is much stronger than mere gun materialization. Ayane, when limited to unarmed combat, or Osako (if we were to include her). And Tsuneyo again if she's allowed to keep her sword.
Keep in mind that Ayane was the adoptive mother of an energy draining chicken:
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and might be the mother of a time traveling mind reading shapeshifter:
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I wouldn't be surprised if she can talk to birds as well. Not sure if it's come up.

I kind of want to see Princess Knight Ayane with her swords:
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vs Kendo Princess (Catgirl Flavor Samurai) Tsuneyo:
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with her swords, now.

I'd also say Todd vs Noodles the Unholy, but...
Noodles is likely on an entirely different level anyway:
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Actually, maybe they have already fought?

This game is fucking wild. Like wtf am I even talking about?? Lmao.
 
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Does anyone know where the update only page is for v0.32.0? I gave up looking after 100 pages, I still failed to find it and my ability to use the search bar properly in non-existent.
 

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Actually, maybe they have already fought?
I mean, Todd is dead now, so. Something must've happened. I'm not sure exactly where his corpse was, but it happened during that Yumi-Tsuneyo update, where they seemingly would join the Rooftop Apocalypse Squad (Yumi was talking about turtles). And then John became gigantic. Something's weird there, definitely.

Between marsh warblers, chickens, sparrows, and white-fronted parrots... there's a clear bird motif in this game, and I can't say I don't enjoy it.

I wouldn't be surprised if she can talk to birds as well. Not sure if it's come up.
AFAIR, as of the current update, only Tsuneyo and Sensei have exhibited this characteristic. Sensei also being able to converse with inanimate objects, I'm not sure if Tsuneyo can also do that, but I do not remember any instances of such.
 
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Does anyone know where the update only page is for v0.32.0? I gave up looking after 100 pages, I still failed to find it and my ability to use the search bar properly in non-existent.
You can get old patches from the game's Subscribestar. 's the v32 patch.

Sheesh. Still no movement on the amount being pledged in the months since the drama popped off and the game came off the Latest Updates page. I hope it was worth it.
 

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Keep in mind that Ayane was the adoptive mother of an energy draining chicken:
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and might be the mother of a time traveling mind reading shapeshifter:
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I wouldn't be surprised if she can talk to birds as well. Not sure if it's come up.

I kind of want to see Princess Knight Ayane with her swords:
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vs Kendo Princess (Catgirl Flavor Samurai) Tsuneyo:
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with her swords, now.

I'd also say Todd vs Noodles the Unholy, but...
Noodles is likely on an entirely different level anyway:
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Actually, maybe they have already fought?

This game is fucking wild. Like wtf am I even talking about?? Lmao.
You forget Ayane has several guns she can summon with cute girl magic.
 

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I mean, Todd is dead now, so. Something must've happened. I'm not sure exactly where his corpse was, but it happened during that Yumi-Tsuneyo update, where they seemingly would join the Rooftop Apocalypse Squad (Yumi was talking about turtles). And then John became gigantic. Something's weird there, definitely.

Between marsh warblers, chickens, sparrows, and white-fronted parrots... there's a clear bird motif in this game, and I can't say I don't enjoy it.



AFAIR, as of the current update, only Tsuneyo and Sensei have exhibited this characteristic. Sensei also being able to converse with inanimate objects, I'm not sure if Tsuneyo can also do that, but I do not remember any instances of such.
John actually may have warned us about what would kill Todd:
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That "tendrils" bit reminds me of Yasu's sky tendrils:
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Which she brought up after talking about the World itself:
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So, I'm thinking the World has sky tendrils and these tendrils are what killed Todd.

However, The World might be what is taking Sekai's form (Sekai translates to World), which can notably "take" Sensei's eyes:
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showed up restored (in it's purest form) after the snow melted, and is presumably allied with Noodles:
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So, in a roundabout way, Noodles may have played a part in Todd's death, afterall.

John also seemed to mention that festival:
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where that abandoned shrine was on Maya's bday:
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before being lobotomized:
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and later becoming whatever the actual fuck he is now:
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So, I'm thinking there's a connection here.

So so so.
 
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You forget Ayane has several guns she can summon with cute girl magic.
Way ahead of ya, mate:
So, if Ayane and Tsuneyo were to fight, with no weapons allowed since Ayane has gun magic:
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and I'm not confident that Tsuneyo can deflect bullets with Gallows Edge, Who you got?

Both seem to be considered above Yumi, by themselves:
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and others:
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Tsuneyo has the size advantage, and Ayane has the skill and experience advantage, but I'm not entirely sure who is stronger, considering Ayane seems suspiciously strong:
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and Tsuneyo is Tsuneyo. They also might have supernatural plot armor going on, but good luck taking that into account.
The only thing I haven't really brought up is that Ayane is apparently a Pokemon trainer:
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Can't fucking wait for Uta. I'm also quite interested to see Miku's story progress.
Yeah, pretty keen to see what happens with Uta too, everything is fully set up now for her to do stuff with Akira and i can't easily see a good reason for Selly delaying it any longer. Not saying she'll have a sex scene or something but it's basically confession time at this point.
 
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Here's something people can help me with conjuring up possibilities about the most recent reset.

From the past resets, the situations Sensei was in were more or less depicted as him trying his best to regain consciousness from extremely insane acid dreams. These strange conditions, presented themselves to Sensei and players in the form of puzzles, were likely products of the collapsing existence of Kumon-mi itself.

But this is not what we have during the 5th reset (or least in Untitled). What we see here is Sensei being kidnapped to attend some charade TV program while the world outside is ending. By game design, the ten-questions without a doubt is a reset puzzle. However, by how Sensei finds himself in the situation, it is technically not a reset puzzle. This time the puzzles can't even be summed up to interpretations of breaking oneself out of insanity due to the world ending; the process is hijacked by a certain party (assuming the certain party being team HOPE) that also deliberately sets obstacles under an unknown premise.

It's like if Long Maya didn't kidnap us, then we might actually need to answer some bullshit based on the coffee monologue LOL

We've seen the presence of Gods sprinkled here and there during the previous resets but never this main-focused and forceful. So the question naturally goes to what's their goal this time in particular?

We received our ultimatum at the beginning of the 5th reset regarding our lack of tribute to HOPE. So this may be deemed as some kind of direct intervention/punishment on HOPES's end to have things in its favor again. However, judging from how the whole TV show is structured, it is apparent that Long Maya intends to indefinitely trap Sensei within the time between sleepover to the TV show. Moreover, she might be up for hard resetting Sensei when Himawari bails on factchecking.
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So what is Long Maya trying to achieve here? It is perhaps understandable that she'd consider trapping Sensei indefinitely as a mean to break Sensei into submission, and thus he would walk on the designated path afterwards. So in their scheme is more like the only way out is to yield and submit to HOPE rather than getting all the answers correctly. Because as it turns out, nailing all questions is basically impossible when it comes to Ayane segment.

When Long Maya forces your daughter to shapeshift into Ayane and asks you a question that will break her causality, the message it delivers is that the final segment is purposefully scheduled this way so that at least one of the two followings is ensured: Sensei not surviving this reset or Himawari's existence got got if she actually factchecked her own name, or both.

But if the last question is a hard-scripted fail for Sensei and he is thus doomed for a hard reset regardless, how does this benefit team HOPE and why are we receiving a final warning and a fake deadline at the beginning of Untitled if you don't have a chance to make tribute? Is this just an intimidation tactic? Or is this like HOPE's alternative, to basically get rid off the current iteration that doesn't cooperate anymore? Maybe the assumption of being hard reset is incorrect? Or maybe our understanding to why reset puzzles exist is incorrect?


Some other things not related but still interesting upon revisiting the 5th reset:
- Previously Amiokay is portrayed as some kind of victim to HOPE or to some High Will, but this time I feel like she has succumbed to HOPE and joined its team :(
- It might just be your daughter doing Tsuneyo's character really well plus some overthinking on my end, but during Tsuneyo's segment it feels like Long Maya is trying to trick her into giving away information regarding Mr. Tojo in the meantime.
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