Ren'Py Lessons in Love [v0.49.0] [Selebus]

[DSasha]

By the way, is Io a good human?

Heh, well, I don't know, but I believe she is.

If I had to say who I think are the "best good humans" of the main girls I would say:
Noriko
Futaba
Yumi
Ayane
Maybe Io.


Not saying that the others girls aren't good humans, just a totally biased and probably wrong ranking based on almost nothing

 

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Well, I had enough of this in the Russian segment and I can't spend another 100500 hours here because of the language barrier. About Kirin.

Futaba broke herself

 

[DeSkel15]

Whether everyone likes Nodoka or not, I just want to let her know that please go to Tsuneyo once you realize what you've done and is in need of a sharp item asap
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I am definitely curious how this whole book thing will go between Nodoka and Futaba. Not to mention, how Nodoka will rationalize sleeping with Sensei behind Futaba's back.

 

[DeSkel15]

Heh, well, I don't know, but I believe she is.

If I had to say who I think are the "best good humans" of the main girls I would say:
Noriko
Futaba
Yumi
Ayane
Maybe Io.


Not saying that the others girls aren't good humans, just a totally biased and probably wrong ranking based on almost nothing

"Yumi"... :

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Honest reaction, but to each their own I suppose.

 

[DSasha]

Yeah, Nodoka definitely enjoyed punishing Yumi. She also was avenging Futaba:

Not only that she enjoyed, but that she did to enjoy herself, and remember how a few weeks we were talking about intentions? Well, that pretty much resume my thoughts about her, I'm trying, but I can't see her as a good person.

 

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Rin alternative

 

[DSasha]

Yumi has more or less already damaged Futaba for life:

This kinda happened too when we talked about Rin/Molly, I think (not trying to be rude) that in these cases you take a side and just defend it no matter what.
You have said this multiple times now, but don't you think what Nodoka did has not the potential to ruin Yumi's life for ever? She sexually assaulted her, cmon

She's easily the worst person in the class.

Yumi? Not a chance

 

[DeSkel15]

Not only that she enjoyed, but that she did to enjoy herself, and remember how a few weeks we were talking about intentions? Well, that pretty much resume my thoughts about her, I'm trying, but I can't see her as a good person.

Nodoka isn't a "good person". Like she said, she, Sensei and Yumi, aren't worthy of happy endings:

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I'd definitely rank her above a few of the characters, though. Especially Yumi and Sensei.

 

[DSasha]

Well, I had enough of this in the Russian segment and I can't spend another 100500 hours here because of the language barrier. About Kirin.

Ahh but I want know, just tell me and I won't reply to not make it hard

 

[DeSkel15]

This kinda happened too when we talked about Rin/Molly, I think (not trying to be rude) that in theses cases you take a side and just defend it no matter what.
You have said this multiple times now, but don't you think what Nodoka did has not the potential to ruin Yumi's life for ever? She sexually assaulted her, cmon
Yumi? Not a chance

Of course, I take a side. The side I see as right. It's not my fault some people refuse to accept what's shown, even when I make sure to show them it.

In my opinion, Yumi deserved to have her life ruined for trying to ruin the life of someone that did nothing to her. I have no pity for Yumi. Nodoka was too lenient on her.

Yumi is easily the worst in my point of view. How exactly is she not?

 

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Ahh but I want know, just tell me and I won't reply to not make it hard

Roughly speaking, Selebus himself does not understand what he wrote in Kirin.

Kirin is a person who wants to be bad, while being good, but not accepting himself

 

[DSasha]

Of course, I take a side. The side I see as right. It's not my fault some people refuse to accept what's shown, even when I make sure to show them it.

In my opinion, Yumi deserved to have her life ruined for trying to ruin the life of someone that did nothing to her. I have no pity for Yumi. Nodoka was too lenient on her.

Yumi is easily the worst in my point of view. How exactly is she not?

That's not how conflicts are solved, everything you said above reflects pretty well why this world is so fucked up as it is right now, people blindfold themselves in what they think is right and don't want to try to understand others, or try to think that maybe they are wrong, they have a side, and the right side, and that's what matters. Doesn't care the side they choose make equal or worse things they will just ignore it and justify it.
I obviously talk about what I think is right too, but the difference is that I don't think that my word is the truth, and is a waste of time disscussing with someone that does it; not your faault people refuse to accept what is shown? That's bullshit.

Your opinion is that if someone hurt other he deserves to be hurt as well? Welp, I'm sorry for telling you, but your opinion just makes no sense, and is highly insensitive and simplist.

 

[DSasha]

Anyway, this heated up pretty bad, so would be better just ending this right here, if what I wrote offended someone I have no problem in apologize and delete the comment.

 

[DeSkel15]

That's not how conflicts are solved, everything you said above reflects pretty well why this world is so fucked up as it is right now, people blindfold themselves in what they think is right and don't want to try to understand others, or try to think that maybe they are wrong, they have a side, and the right side, and that's what matters. Doesn't care the side they choose make equal or worse things they will just ignore it and justify it.
I obviously talk about what I think is right too, but the difference is that I don't think that my word is the truth, and is a waste of time disscussing with someone that does it; not your faault people refuse to accept what is shown? That's bullshit.

Your opinion is that if someone hurt other he deserves to be hurt as well? Welp, I'm sorry for telling you, but your opinion just makes no sense, and is highly insensitive and simplist.

That's literally what you're doing. You're assuming you're the one that's right and that I'm wrong for disagreeing. If you had some evidence for the contrary besides simply thinking otherwise, I'm perfectly fine with hearing you out. Literally just asked for your reasoning.

Now you're saying something as simple as an eye for an eye, makes no sense.. It's "highly insensitive" to say that, lmao.

Sorry to say this, but you might want to look in the mirror.

 

[DeSkel15]

Random, but this game needs more Kaori and Rin conversations like this:

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Lmao.

 

[DSasha]

Random, but this game needs more Kaori and Rin conversations like this:

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Lmao.

Reminded me of this

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What the shapeshifter wanted to say with that?

With Ami is obvious that somehing weird happens sometimes, but it really intrigued me the Niki part.
Also a few events after, I think she was pretending to be Chinami (I will let Deksel to put the ss because Im on my phone), when she refered to Chika by One Chan.

But why, is Niki gone? Or she neve really existed? And how about Chinami?

 

[bruhmoment1762]

everytime characters go crazy or the world start to break I'm like "I hope this ends fast"

This is exactly how I feel. Like I said, if it was a linear story or a book it'd be alright. But the world breaking stuff just makes me want to skip through it. Were it not for the lore revelations / learning more about the characters I'd skip over them entirely. Honestly wish we could learn more about Maya and the other characters organically via interacting with them rather than the (imho) forced horror/world breaking events/exposition dumps.

 

[DeSkel15]

Reminded me of this

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What the shapeshifter wanted to say with that?

With Ami is obvious that somehing weird happens sometimes, but it really intrigued me the Niki part.
Also a few events after, I think she was pretending to be Chinami (I will let Deksel to put the ss because Im on my phone), when she refered to Chika by One Chan.

But why, is Niki gone? Or she neve really existed? And how about Chinami?

Hm, I'm actually not sure what event you're referring to with Chinami. I might need to replay her events and pay attention more.

As for Niki, I've actually been wondering if the Nakayamas might be Shapeshifters or something alien. It's been established that false memories exist:

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and the fact they apparently have naturally pink hair:

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Has somewhat made me wonder if they might be fake.

On top of the recent Amy stuff:

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Well, I wouldn't be all that surprised if the Nakayamas and Ami turn out to be imposters. They might even be unaware that they are. False memories might make them think they are, who they pretend to be.

Then again, this could apply to anyone in this game.

 

[DSasha]

I think that maybe Niki do exist, but outside of Kumon-mi, because Kumon-mi is an artificial place:

So, for a while I've thought that it's weird that every character in the game has to have a fucked up backstory, it reminded me of Angel Beats, an anime where people that had a miserable life were put in a world where they could live the life they could not when they were alive or something.

What if this is the same? But kind of different, maybe they are in this world not to be compensated but punished, punished for commiting suicide.

And so Niki does not belong to this world because she lived, and because she does not belong there, a shapeshifter take her place in order to, well, punish sensei in the future.
Same with Chinami, being maybe the way of punish Chika idk.

It's a theory still on early development that I know has a lot of holes and that still does not explain a lot of things, but I need to give a reason to why everyone have such a misersble life, and also would made sense with the Niki part because, yeah, a convenient childhoodfriend slash exgirlfriend who's also an idol who never gave up on Sensei after all those years? Lets get real

 

[DSasha]

Hm, I'm actually not sure what event you're referring to with Chinami. I might need to replay her events and pay attention more.

Here, it's the last Chinami event.

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She was talking in first person, and referred to Chika by one chan instead of Big sis Chika.