Ren'Py Lessons in Love [v0.49.0] [Selebus]

[Pedro4545454]

Honestly I am still holding out for Sensei turning out good in the end. There are certainly scenes in there where you see that there is good in the man and it's breaking through to the surface. My guess is that his current state is trauma induced and not his actual person.

My guess is that on the day Ami lost her parents three people died, not two. One of them just kept on breathing.

Or maybe he didn't. My personal theory is that Sensei actually jumped off that roof and that all this mess is a result of Maya doing something she really should not have to make sure she did not loose him resulting in a monkey paw / pet cemetary kind of situation.

Well, the ones I most want to have a happy ending in this world are Akira, Maya, Rin and Yumi. They are the ones I most hope will have a happy ending.



Well, it's pretty obvious that Akira's methods are a result of what Sekai did to him, so yes, it's trauma.



And yes he seriously has a more human side and well he only started to show this side in chapter 3 so much so that on Halloween he asks Tsuneyo if he has become a better person than he was when they met





And yes, I hope a lot, but this weakened side of him in the next chapter and
yes, I'm part of the team that thinks this guy has a good side hahahaha
Editi:Send it again because I forgot a sentence and I had accidentally deleted everything hahaha

 

[QQP_Purple]

Either way I think it's safe to say that the moral of the game is that no matter how fucked up life gets things can always only get worse. Oh, that and don't pray to God too much. He might actually notice.

 

[Pedro4545454]

Either way I think it's safe to say that the moral of the game is that no matter how fucked up life gets things can always only get worse. Oh, that and don't pray to God too much. He might actually notice.

Because I created Fè that the end of the sentence would be "things can get better" Why would I expect a sentence like that from someone who is part of the LessonsinLove fandom

 

[QQP_Purple]

Because I created Fè that the end of the sentence would be "things can get better" Why would I expect a sentence like that from someone who is part of the LessonsinLove fandom

To hope is to dream.
To dream is wake.
To wake is to look at your self.
To do so is to cry.

Newer wake little dreamer, lest ye be faced to see the true nightmare that life is.

 

[Pedro4545454]

To hope is to dream.
To dream is wake.
To wake is to look at your self.
To do so is to cry.

Newer wake little dreamer, lest ye be faced to see the true nightmare that life is.

Ok now I liked this mini poem it is depressing and very realistic but I liked it.

 

[DeSkel15]

Well, the ones I most want to have a happy ending in this world are Akira, Maya, Rin and Yumi. They are the ones I most hope will have a happy ending.



Well, it's pretty obvious that Akira's methods are a result of what Sekai did to him, so yes, it's trauma.



And yes he seriously has a more human side and well he only started to show this side in chapter 3 so much so that on Halloween he asks Tsuneyo if he has become a better person than he was when they met
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And yes, I hope a lot, but this weakened side of him in the next chapter and
yes, I'm part of the team that thinks this guy has a good side hahahaha
Editi:Send it again because I forgot a sentence and I had accidentally deleted everything hahaha

Tsuneyo was so savage that event chain:

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I feel like whatever was fucking with everyone, was annoying Tsuneyo all night.

She does say he looks like a "partially reformed predator" though, which I guess is a win in Sensei's book.

Of course, he better hope she doesn't find out about Molly (if it turns out he actually did what he claimed he didn't remember if he did). Tsuneyo made it clear she'd butcher a rapist:

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Ok now I liked this mini poem it is depressing and very realistic but I liked it.

Yea, depressing poetry is kind of my hobby. You should see the good stuff I have squirreled away for a book some day

 

[chronox42]

After the previews for 0.35 were released, featuring the Behelit, I went ahead and read the entirety of Berserk by Kentaro Miura.

I thought it was absolutely fantastic. I recommend the whole tale to any Lessons in Love fan that can handle some black-and-white gore. It's a one-man labor of love that spanned something like thirty years, until the author died unexpectedly. (A taste of what we're in for, perhaps?) There are hundreds of chapters that tell an enthralling story of a broken man, show a deep understanding of human nature, and offer a heaping helping of psychological horror.

The entire thing is vastly different from Lessons in Love, but there are similarities that go beyond the superficial and appeal to the thirst I have for deep, disturbing fiction where you're never quite sure what's real. There's a protagonist who often makes the wrong decision when things truly matter, the scourge of memory loss induced by unspeakable trauma, an undercurrent of sexuality that often enhances the surreal, and the constant threat of obliteration by horrors that inhabit a world adjacent to what we perceive.

Spoiler: Some direct comparison

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Anyway, I doubt there are direct lines between these works, but I bet Selebus took some inspiration from Miura's story. Definitely give Berserk a shot; if you do, avoid spoilers as carefully as you would for LiL. Also, there's a sort of companion book that was published with one of the last few volumes, and there's an interview in there with the creator that's surely worth reading if you like the manga and / or want some insight into an author who's a little like Selebus.

Thanks to the people who post the previews and those who discussed the Behelit, for pointing the way to another outstanding piece of fiction. Something I'm wondering now: are those creepy giant rabbits that keep showing up also a reference to some other work?

 

[QQP_Purple]

I thought it was absolutely fantastic. I recommend the whole tale to any Lessons in Love fan that can handle some black-and-white gore. It's a one-man labor of love that spanned something like thirty years, until the author died unexpectedly. (A taste of what we're in for, perhaps?)

I certainly hope the author here has no intention of dying before he is done.

 

[Pedro4545454]

I certainly hope the author here has no intention of dying before he is done.

If Selly does this, I'll go after his soul to return to his body and continue the game.

 

[Pedro4545454]

It's been difficult to stay without updates because most of the things I had to discuss have already been discussed haahahah

Well now this topic here who do you think will reach the roof in the next chapter considering what happened to them in chapter 3?

Yumi:She had been feeling some déjà vu for days, so I put her as a candidate.

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Tsuneyo: She was able to remember her memories that had been erased because of the Reset so I also consider her a candidate.

Io: She probably killed herself after the last conversation with Akira since she wasn't seen anywhere so I rule her out.

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Makoto: She can talk normally about the world without any errors, so she's a strong candidate.

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Chika: She didn't show any trait that can perceive the world then Discarto.

Rin: She has a small chance since in chapter 3 she manages to mention the issue of how long they've been in Akira's class without a bug, but I wouldn't put too much faith in her.

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Maya:..........I hate Selly

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Ayane: It's 99% confirmed that it will be there, so there's nothing to theorize.

Sana:she was kind of being erased in front of us so the chance of her being there is less than 50%.

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Touka, Uta, Kirin, Molly, Otoha, Futabu, Noriko and Miku are the group that has so far shown 0 chance of appearing on the roof. Interestingly, most of them are also in the group of those who haven't had sex with Akira yet hahahaha.

Nodoka, Yasuo are in the group of those that I can't even say if they appeared there or not, both of them do a lot of things, Nodoka has a better chance of appearing if the theory that she is a relative of Akira is correct, otherwise I am completely in doubt.

I didn't take the secondary girls into consideration because I really don't think Selly would put one of them on the roof during a Reset.

 

[QQP_Purple]

If Selly does this, I'll go after his soul to return to his body and continue the game.

And thus it was that the words were spoken, the spell cast. And the dead once more walked upon the earth. And as is the case with all who prematurely wake. The dead were cranky.

 

[Pedro4545454]

And thus it was that the words were spoken, the spell cast. And the dead once more walked upon the earth. And as is the case with all who prematurely wake. The dead were cranky.

Are you going to write a book? If the answer is no, I seriously ask you to reconsider because I guarantee it will be good and sell well.

 

[fdsasdf_p]

Something I'm wondering now: are those creepy giant rabbits that keep showing up also a reference to some other work?

These?

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unfortunately it most likely won't carry meaning worth going over like Behelit would; it's One Piece after all
just probably the alpha version of those creepy rabbit dolls with angel names

 

[DeSkel15]

It's been difficult to stay without updates because most of the things I had to discuss have already been discussed haahahah

Well now this topic here who do you think will reach the roof in the next chapter considering what happened to them in chapter 3?

Yumi:She had been feeling some déjà vu for days, so I put her as a candidate.

Spoiler: Yumi

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Tsuneyo: She was able to remember her memories that had been erased because of the Reset so I also consider her a candidate.

Io: She probably killed herself after the last conversation with Akira since she wasn't seen anywhere so I rule her out.

Spoiler: Io

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Makoto: She can talk normally about the world without any errors, so she's a strong candidate.

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Chika: She didn't show any trait that can perceive the world then Discarto.

Rin: She has a small chance since in chapter 3 she manages to mention the issue of how long they've been in Akira's class without a bug, but I wouldn't put too much faith in her.

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Maya:..........I hate Selly

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Ayane: It's 99% confirmed that it will be there, so there's nothing to theorize.

Sana:She resets it in front of us so it's 100% not going to be there.

Spoiler: Sana

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Touka, Uta, Kirin, Molly, Otoha, Futabu, Noriko and Miku are the group that has so far shown 0 chance of appearing on the roof. Interestingly, most of them are also in the group of those who haven't had sex with Akira yet hahahaha.

Nodoka, Yasuo are in the group of those that I can't even say if they appeared there or not, both of them do a lot of things, Nodoka has a better chance of appearing if the theory that she is a relative of Akira is correct, otherwise I am completely in doubt.

I didn't take the secondary girls into consideration because I really don't think Selly would put one of them on the roof during a Reset.

Makoto and Rin seem to be crossed out for now, considering Makoto's phone messages implies that they get left behind to masturbate in Ayane's bathroom when the Reset is happening. Someone is also dead with the rest trying to fix her:

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Which makes me think that everyone at the party is probably crossed out, with someone (possibly Kirin), dead.

In other words, I think it'll probably be someone who isn't at the party.

Sana may have been losing it, but that's apparently normal. Even Maya couldn't remember her initial trips:

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And we've seen Maya and Ayane, who still make it to the roof, go T-shaped during a Reset:

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On top of all of this, Sana is like Ayane's teddy bear and makes her feel safe. I doubt she'd just leave Sana behind after the whole Ami and Maya thing.

Personally, if anyone besides Ayane and Sensei makes it to the roof, I'd be surprised if it isn't Sana. The recent Preview showing Ayane and Sana, also leads me to think they are going over Reset related things:

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(Sana, the face of Chapter 4?)

Kind of hope Io makes it there as well. It's also plausible that Kaori makes it there, as she may have done so already:

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Then there's Ami, and if she makes it there, that will be wild.

 

[Pedro4545454]

Makoto and Rin seem to be crossed out for now, considering Makoto's phone messages implies that they get left behind to masturbate in Ayane's bathroom when the Reset is happening. Someone is also dead with the rest trying to fix her:

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Which makes me think that everyone at the party is probably crossed out, with someone (possibly Kirin), dead.

In other words, I think it'll probably be someone who isn't at the party.

Sana may have been losing it, but that's apparently normal. Even Maya couldn't remember her initial trips:

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And we've seen Maya and Ayane, who still make it to the roof, go T-shaped during a Reset:

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On top of all of this, Sana is like Ayane's teddy bear and makes her feel safe. I doubt she'd just leave Sana behind after the whole Ami and Maya thing.

Personally, if anyone besides Ayane and Sensei makes it to the roof, I'd be surprised if it isn't Sana. The recent Preview showing Ayane and Sana, also leads me to think they are going over Reset related things:

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(Sana, the face of Chapter 4?)

Kind of hope Io makes it there as well. It's also plausible that Kaori makes it there, as she may have done so already:

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Then there's Ami, and if she makes it there, that will be wild.

It's true, I had forgotten about that image of Makoto's phone.

I think Maya was more trying to say it's the way in which she, at first, entered a state like Akira who kept seeing things and talking to objects like that.

You made a good point about Sana, but in the image she looks really good and even a little crazy? I don't think she would be the type to be 100% calm about this situation even though these images are after the reset but, you know, anything can happen in this world.

I would think it would be cool to have her on the cover, especially since she was being prepared by Hope in chapter 3, so it would make a lot of sense for her to be the image and have more focus on her.

These clothes are completely from Sekai so I seriously don't know if you can agree that it could be Kaori and if so it could possibly be her being possessed by Sekai.

I also wanted more of Io, as I said, the chance of her having killed herself in this ending is very high. (Maybe a warning of what we might end up encountering in the next chapter or on the dark route perhaps? in case Selly decides to put a reference to DDLC in the middle of his game)

Ami: It's a total case of mystery, she literally sometimes seems like she has a chance and then it seems like she doesn't. like she seems to have a chance because she's linked to Sekai and Nozomu but she has the business that she can't even suspect that something could interfere in her world otherwise she becomes super obsessive and could seriously end up disturbing Akira a lot so like I said complete mystery to me.

 

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I feel like this applies to everyone who actually manages to fap to this game.

 

[DeSkel15]

It's true, I had forgotten about that image of Makoto's phone.

I think Maya was more trying to say it's the way in which she, at first, entered a state like Akira who kept seeing things and talking to objects like that.

You made a good point about Sana, but in the image she looks really good and even a little crazy? I don't think she would be the type to be 100% calm about this situation even though these images are after the reset but, you know, anything can happen in this world.

I would think it would be cool to have her on the cover, especially since she was being prepared by Hope in chapter 3, so it would make a lot of sense for her to be the image and have more focus on her.

These clothes are completely from Sekai so I seriously don't know if you can agree that it could be Kaori and if so it could possibly be her being possessed by Sekai.

I also wanted more of Io, as I said, the chance of her having killed herself in this ending is very high. (Maybe a warning of what we might end up encountering in the next chapter or on the dark route perhaps? in case Selly decides to put a reference to DDLC in the middle of his game)

Ami: It's a total case of mystery, she literally sometimes seems like she has a chance and then it seems like she doesn't. like she seems to have a chance because she's linked to Sekai and Nozomu but she has the business that she can't even suspect that something could interfere in her world otherwise she becomes super obsessive and could seriously end up disturbing Akira a lot so like I said complete mystery to me.

Yeah, those clothes are Sekai's, but check out the nails:

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Could definitely be wrong, but that, on top of the Red-Eyed Kaori stuff:

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Makes it seem like it's likely Kaori dressed up as Sekai. Probably possessed by whatever it is.

As for Maya, keep in mind that Sensei sometimes fucks watermelons, and constantly does weird sexual things, during Resets and in those states (a lot is just mentioned instead of shown). Maya, Ayane, and whoever else might go through similar things. Sana's microphones thing, might just be what it looks like from an outside perspective for her in that state. It seems to be hard or undesirable to remember what happens though.

I also think Sana might just normally be a little crazy:

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This Reset stuff probably wouldn't affect her that much. If anything, she seems like the type that might enjoy an ever-looping world. Abandoned by her father, lost her brother, and her mother is constantly struggling to keep them stable, while she's struggling to fit in and be social. Yeah, a world like a video game where everyone respawns, would probably seem awesome to Sana.

I'm still wondering if there will be a Psycho Sana:

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She does love horror movies, after all. They're her absolute favorite. Especially those with gore and dismembered body parts, presumably.

Not to mention, she seems connected to Pareidolia, with both having a taste for spiders, the dark, and perception. If it is it's turn, then it's likely Spring, and Sana is one of the few that is actually aware of Spring not being a thing:

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Implying she might have a connection to it. (Even though she's compared to Winter and Ayane to Summer, she may actually be Spring in that comparison.)

As for Io, if she does kill herself, she might end up like Makoto. I also feel like she has a much larger role to play after the whole this room smells like Spring, and the Rollercoaster game unlocked a core memory, stuff. She reminds Sensei of himself as well.

Personally, I'm kind of hoping Sel will streamline Ami's story instead of splitting it between good and bad uncle. It's likely made it difficult to involve her in the main plot, because she technically has two different stories of her own going on. Plus, Main Ami may or may not even be around anymore after last update. Might even be a New Ami like New Maya. Definitely curious about where Sel is heading with Ami. Hard to count anything out just yet.

 

[Pedro4545454]

Yeah, those clothes are Sekai's, but check out the nails:

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Could definitely be wrong, but that, on top of the Red-Eyed Kaori stuff:

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Makes it seem like it's likely Kaori dressed up as Sekai. Probably possessed by whatever it is.

As for Maya, keep in mind that Sensei sometimes fucks watermelons, and constantly does weird sexual things, during Resets and in those states (a lot is just mentioned instead of shown). Maya, Ayane, and whoever else might go through similar things. Sana's microphones thing, might just be what it looks like from an outside perspective for her in that state. It seems to be hard or undesirable to remember what happens though.

I also think Sana might just normally be a little crazy:

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This Reset stuff probably wouldn't affect her that much. If anything, she seems like the type that might enjoy an ever-looping world. Abandoned by her father, lost her brother, and her mother is constantly struggling to keep them stable, while she's struggling to fit in and be social. Yeah, a world like a video game where everyone respawns, would probably seem awesome to Sana.

I'm still wondering if there will be a Psycho Sana:

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She does love horror movies, after all. They're her absolute favorite. Especially those with gore and dismembered body parts, presumably.

Not to mention, she seems connected to Pareidolia, with both having a taste for spiders, the dark, and perception. If it is it's turn, then it's likely Spring, and Sana is one of the few that is actually aware of Spring not being a thing:

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Implying she might have a connection to it. (Even though she's compared to Winter and Ayane to Summer, she may actually be Spring in that comparison.)

As for Io, if she does kill herself, she might end up like Makoto. I also feel like she has a much larger role to play after the whole this room smells like Spring, and the Rollercoaster game unlocked a core memory, stuff. She reminds Sensei of himself as well.

Personally, I'm kind of hoping Sel will streamline Ami's story instead of splitting it between good and bad uncle. It's likely made it difficult to involve her in the main plot, because she technically has two different stories of her own going on. Plus, Main Ami may or may not even be around anymore after last update. Might even be a New Ami like New Maya. Definitely curious about where Sel is heading with Ami. Hard to count anything out just yet.

Now that you said that, I see that her chances are a little high, it's not 100% confirmed, but now I can see her being able to get up there.


Regarding Sekai, like I said, if it was really Kaori up there on the roof, it would be the version of her possessed by Sekai and not Kaori herself.


It's now that you said it would be quite interesting to see a Sana psycho if I didn't focus enough on the details she would be one of the last ones I would think could look like this.


Involving Io, I think it would be like Makoto but we wouldn't see it like it was with Makoto, I think she would just enter the screwed state without us understanding anything and the focus would be on us watching Akira try to understand what happened for her to stay like this.


I also hope that it simplifies Ami's story because it is quite confusing to make a linear story and understand her role in the story since there are two different versions and the story keeps changing a little depending on the version.

 

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