Ren'Py Lessons in Love [v0.49.0] [Selebus]

[crustlord12]

BTW, Bingoogus, have you tried Lost in You yet?

This is one of my other issues with games on this site - if they're a halfway decent game, then it's got a good chance of being some sort of LiL clone. There are other games to crib from, damnit. I don't want to play not-as-good-LiL-clone #304 every week (even if I do find myself enjoying some of them)

This isn't an attack on you by the way, JelF, or anyone else that happens to like those games. It just bugs me a little that most games that seem interesting to me end up being a LiL clone

 

[barglenarglezous]

This is one of my other issues with games on this site - if they're a halfway decent game, then it's got a good chance of being some sort of LiL clone. There are other games to crib from, damnit. I don't want to play not-as-good-LiL-clone #304 every week (even if I do find myself enjoying some of them)

This isn't an attack on you by the way, JelF, or anyone else that happens to like those games. It just bugs me a little that most games that seem interesting to me end up being a LiL clone

If a game generates a large audience, it's gonna get copied.

The fact that the dev has become a pariah on this site and the game is no longer promoted means that people who are hungry for exactly this and look on the most-recent page are more likely to find the clones than they are to find the real thing, and opportunists are going to jump on that.

 

[sekilevon]

this game started great but turned into shitburger. I can't even follow the story anymore

 

[Mad Hatter]

this game started great but turned into shitburger. I can't even follow the story anymore

Really? Now that a lot of questions have finally been getting answered, I'm able to follow the story a lot easier now. I have a vague understanding of what's going on compared to the beginning where things mostly seemed random.

 

[ratmanirl]

Ok, finished my first playthrough. I'm kinda curious what you guys think about what the ending will be. On the one hand, any sort of development the MC has will ultimately still be overshadowed by the fact that he's a pedophile and committing statutory rape if he gets with any of the high school (or younger!!!) girls. On the other hand, no one is gonna accept a reset of everyone's relationships back to zero.

 

[k1n5l4y3r]

Ok, finished my first playthrough. I'm kinda curious what you guys think about what the ending will be. On the one hand, any sort of development the MC has will ultimately still be overshadowed by the fact that he's a pedophile and committing statutory rape if he gets with any of the high school (or younger!!!) girls. On the other hand, no one is gonna accept a reset of everyone's relationships back to zero.

I'm placing my bet that Akira's real name is Radahn, his mind has already rotten away, but somehow he is holding the stars in place. And the true end is him dying and the stars being freed, and somehow the gods whimsically bring him back to live his teenage dreams.

 

[derekthered56]

Ok, finished my first playthrough. I'm kinda curious what you guys think about what the ending will be. On the one hand, any sort of development the MC has will ultimately still be overshadowed by the fact that he's a pedophile and committing statutory rape if he gets with any of the high school (or younger!!!) girls. On the other hand, no one is gonna accept a reset of everyone's relationships back to zero.

Akira dies and the time loop ends. The story feels like a weird dream to the other characters, but the experience helps them grow stronger and move past their issues. I'm split on whether Maya also dies in order to stay with Akira, or if she manages to grow up and live a normal life without him.

That'd be pretty bittersweet and even still it's probably more hopeful than I should be expecting from this game.

 

[Pedro4545454]

Ok, finished my first playthrough. I'm kinda curious what you guys think about what the ending will be. On the one hand, any sort of development the MC has will ultimately still be overshadowed by the fact that he's a pedophile and committing statutory rape if he gets with any of the high school (or younger!!!) girls. On the other hand, no one is gonna accept a reset of everyone's relationships back to zero.

Well, we know that we will have an ending for each girl and a true ending, so in my opinion there is a good chance that the true ending will be where Akira dies, but I can't say because Selly said at the beginning of the game that he would make us cling to the girls then he would make us suffer and after that good things would come and we would be happy but I don't trust him at all because just by analyzing the game you can already know that he has serious problems in which I feel happiness so I expect an average ending where it's not sad, but not happy.

Akira dies and the time loop ends. The story feels like a weird dream to the other characters, but the experience helps them grow stronger and move past their issues. I'm split on whether Maya also dies in order to stay with Akira, or if she manages to grow up and live a normal life without him.

That'd be pretty bittersweet and even still it's probably more hopeful than I should be expecting from this game.

Considering that Maya went through several resets just to keep Akira alive, the chance of her continuing well after his death, well...... I guess it's easier to win the lottery 50 times than to see this future happen, even more so since the big theory that the two of them are stuck in an infinite loop with Akira and Maya being reset and returned several times, so it's good to always consider the worst that can happen as it can always get worse

 

[DeSkel15]

Ok, finished my first playthrough. I'm kinda curious what you guys think about what the ending will be. On the one hand, any sort of development the MC has will ultimately still be overshadowed by the fact that he's a pedophile and committing statutory rape if he gets with any of the high school (or younger!!!) girls. On the other hand, no one is gonna accept a reset of everyone's relationships back to zero.

I have a few that I'd like to see:

1. Sensei gets replaced by his more favored children who become the next Collector(s), and the cycle continues with new girls, as the current more popular and devoted ones get relegated/rewritten into side characters. The rest might end up in similar circumstances like Amy's.
2. This world just gets erased because it's a mistake like Nodoka seems to think it is:
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   And maybe some LiL girls get folded into new characters for the next MC.
3. Considering that Sel is going to remake 'Nothing is Beautiful', Yuu might just wake up from this Delusion called 'Lessons in Love', realizing Sensei and all the alliterated named characters were figments of his imagination, with Miu trying to wake him up this whole time, hence her appearance in the 'Rain King' Happy Event.

Overall: I'm going to be a little disappointed if Sensei just commits mental suicide in the true end, and wakes up in front of Ami in class thinking that he reincarnated into a new body.

 

[Antosha]

Overall: I'm going to be a little disappointed if Sensei just commits mental suicide in the true end, and wakes up in front of Ami in class thinking that he reincarnated into a new body.

"It was all just a dream...."



I have to say, all of your endings are intriguing... but man, after all that, I think they'd all depress the hell out of me. Hmm.

 

[Pedro4545454]

"It was all just a dream...."



I have to say, all of your endings are intriguing... but man, after all that, I think they'd all depress the hell out of me. Hmm.

This game makes me freak out in the sense that I want an end to it but I can't see an ending that is logical and worthy for this game, what shit haaaaa.

There's also the fact that when this game ends, I deeply hope there will be lots of new, good games, because if I don't, it will be very sad.

There is a fact that I want a happy ending too, even though that is practically impossible.

 

[Bingoogus]

I don't necessarily mean exactly the same but i hope we get an ending like Saw I, a big reveal and a narrative door slamming shut, Akira forever imprisoned in his purgatory, be it as punishment or in sacrifice to save/spare everyone else. That'd satisfy me.

 

[barglenarglezous]

I don't necessarily mean exactly the same but i hope we get an ending like Saw I, a big reveal and a narrative door slamming shut, Akira forever imprisoned in his purgatory, be it as punishment or in sacrifice to save/spare everyone else. That'd satisfy me.

In the final moments of the game, we see an old man in an assisted living facility. It's Old Man Akira, reflecting back on the people who'd loved him througout his career. The classroom isn't a capture of a moment in time, it's a collage of all the girls whose lives he ruined over his decades-long career as an educator. Most of them are still alive, but none have come to visit him. If only he'd found it inside himself to love them an ounce as much as they'd thought they'd loved him...

He was the old man in Tojo Ramen the whole time. That's why Tsuneyo never let him go upstairs. She couldn't let her father know the truth.

 

[Noob Gamer Loves Everyone]

While everyone waiting for the update, I recommend to try out Perfect Pitch to "pass the time"(even saying it that way is insulting considering how fucking awesome it is), the creator for that game really put his soul into it. It is clear case of visionary work with a lot of effort put into it. Given time and some more supporters it could probably be on the same footing as LiL and that is some very high praise. I will leave review for it once I finish it, for now I am being amazed at how much soul this game has at the moment of me writing this comment. Dialogues there could use some work tho, that is not how human being talk IRL, but oh well, small issue compared to gigantic collection of many praiseworthy things found in that game.

Okay. More or less finished it. I take back my words about "same footing as LiL". Give it time and more supporters and more money(where the fuck is his go fund me page) and Perfect Pitch will make LiL look like a fucking 6 grader school project. I once thought(up until this day) that LiL is the best game and the one with the most potential ever posted in f95, I was mistaken, Perfect Pitch is the one with so much potential and yet to be uncovered greatness, that if LiL would be a phenomena on how to Write VN, then Perfect Pitch shall be a phenomena on how Make VNs. That is some hidden gem, a treasure that is not found, the greatest story yet to be finished. I now have 2 VN that I consider as a visionary and "once in a century masterpieces", LiL and Perfect Pitch. LiL is on the 1 place for now, but that is only because it is longer. Give Perfect Pitch some 20 more updated(no need for 30 to catch up with LiL even) and it shall become 1 place in my book and hopefully a 1 place for many more people. Its current lack of popularity is a tragedy truly. I will try to raise some awareness and support for the game in non-english communities for the time being

 

[Duskreyn]

"It was all just a dream...."



I have to say, all of your endings are intriguing... but man, after all that, I think they'd all depress the hell out of me. Hmm.

All those conversations made me remember something funny, but at the same time, at least a little optimistic, that it won't be a disappointing/depressive/troll/silly ending.

 

[throwawaysponge]

I have a few that I'd like to see:

1. Sensei gets replaced by his more favored children who become the next Collector(s), and the cycle continues with new girls, as the current more popular and devoted ones get relegated/rewritten into side characters. The rest might end up in similar circumstances like Amy's.
2. This world just gets erased because it's a mistake like Nodoka seems to think it is:
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   And maybe some LiL girls get folded into new characters for the next MC.
3. Considering that Sel is going to remake 'Nothing is Beautiful', Yuu might just wake up from this Delusion called 'Lessons in Love', realizing Sensei and all the alliterated named characters were figments of his imagination, with Miu trying to wake him up this whole time, hence her appearance in the 'Rain King' Happy Event.

Overall: I'm going to be a little disappointed if Sensei just commits mental suicide in the true end, and wakes up in front of Ami in class thinking that he reincarnated into a new body.

Deskel with the constant ability to quote things that will drive us insane the more we think about it.

Off topic and responding to Bingoboi way back maybe 'Out of Touch' will do something for you, it's a neat blend of fuckery and funny without a lot of sandbox crap but being wildly different from the LiL themes. Lasts a solid 12-18 hours at this point.

 

[Bingoogus]

Deskel with the constant ability to quote things that will drive us insane the more we think about it.

Off topic and responding to Bingoboi way back maybe 'Out of Touch' will do something for you, it's a neat blend of fuckery and funny without a lot of sandbox crap but being wildly different from the LiL themes. Lasts a solid 12-18 hours at this point.

Already in my toppest folder of followed games

Edit: here's my current list of saved games:

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It's not exactly ordered but it's 5 columns from A to E in terms of roughly how psyched i am for an update.

 

[Vizer007]

Okay. More or less finished it. I take back my words about "same footing as LiL". Give it time and more supporters and more money(where the fuck is his go fund me page) and Perfect Pitch will make LiL look like a fucking 6 grader school project. I once thought(up until this day) that LiL is the best game and the one with the most potential ever posted in f95, I was mistaken, Perfect Pitch is the one with so much potential and yet to be uncovered greatness, that if LiL would be a phenomena on how to Write VN, then Perfect Pitch shall be a phenomena on how Make VNs. That is some hidden gem, a treasure that is not found, the greatest story yet to be finished. I now have 2 VN that I consider as a visionary and "once in a century masterpieces", LiL and Perfect Pitch. LiL is on the 1 place for now, but that is only because it is longer. Give Perfect Pitch some 20 more updated(no need for 30 to catch up with LiL even) and it shall become 1 place in my book and hopefully a 1 place for many more people. Its current lack of popularity is a tragedy truly. I will try to raise some awareness and support for the game in non-english communities for the time being

Make a signature with a link, if you are active enough in threads, some people will notice it and maybe try it out. I have this game in my "play later" list currently, but reading this post I am thinking to get it a bit higher in my priority list now. Sadly the next update of Perfect Pitch is as far away as more than half a year...By the way, how long Perfect Pitch currently?

 

[Noob Gamer Loves Everyone]

Make a signature with a link, if you are active enough in threads, some people will notice it and maybe try it out. I have this game in my "play later" list currently, but reading this post I am thinking to get it a bit higher in my priority list now. Sadly the next update of Perfect Pitch is as far away as more than half a year...By the way, how long Perfect Pitch currently?

Considering latest controversy surrounding my nickname, making a signature would be a bad rep for an author to be honest and I do not want to sabotage his work in any way. So I will for now focus my efforts on trying to promote that game on non-english forums and sites instead, where I have good rep and clout(RIP Anivisual.net. You and your active user base will be missed).

To answer your question, my playstyle involves repeating and checking every nook and cranny in every event, so it took me about 30 hours. Minus that and it is 18-20 hours I think. Pretty good lenght for just a 0.7 version. I must also say that there is very little "one scene, wall of text" kind of bullshit that you will find in most games in this site. Almost every event is followed by several scenes, positions and "themes" so to speak, this is honestly a novelty for me, there are far too many VNs that beat that one scene they made to death. Finding one VN that actually uses different scenes and ways to convey almost every single event is very refreshing. This also explains why next update is "far away", you will need a lot of time and effort to keep the value production and the current vision on track. Sorry for a bit of a long way to answer your comment, I am still somewhat very surprised and happy that this kind of VN could even exist. I was not exaggerating when I said that given time and more support Perfect Pitch would(hopefully Will) become a phenomena on how to Make VNs.

To summarize: Perfect Pitch is awesome VN and game and it will take about 18-24 hours of your time that you will most likely enjoy spending playing it

 

[Zolse]

With all this talk of endings, I would remind the class that Sel promised us, from the very beginning, that everything will be okay (~).
He will be held to account. I demand a nice ending