Ren'Py Lessons in Love [v0.49.0] [Selebus]

[crustlord12]

I'm pretty vanilla myself but I don't cry about any of the fetish content. I just click through it if it isn't working for me. Been seeing some VNs that feature watersports lately and it's really not my thing but I'm not gonna throw a tantrum about it.

I actually think the anti-NTR crowd are usually the loudest and more annoying of the bunch. Like I get that people are really into the self-insert but some of these guys would cry about Rin getting fingered by Otoha as NTR.

Same, whenever a footjob scene comes up in a game I just kinda click through it all. Does absolutely nothing for me. Happy for those foot fetish freaks though, glad they can bust one off I guess. I was about to say do KK feet work the same as real feet? But here I am, shooting ropes to KK t'n'a so wtf do I know.

It does feel like sometimes we put a little too much value into things being intentional instead of Sel making a mistake or as you said, the limitations of the engine he's using.

Yeah, it's both a blessing and a curse of this community. Sometimes I see some theories get waaaaay too far into the weeds on a probable mistake of Sel's and the forum just runs with it as canon. Which honestly is fair, because we only get updates a few times a year, no reason to not just pick through everything we can. But with so few updates and so much free time to go over old events looking for anything to analyze, it feels like we get dangerously close to this

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[Kitty Hawk]

Me, when I look at the feet discussion:

 

[LessonsInDissonance]

You guys give Selebus too much credit, he's one of the best at writing stories ever, but he's not an intellectual genius.
If you've seen his twitter he's the typical liberal know-it-all who thinks he's better than everyone else.

Imagine Brian Griffin but he can actually write a good story

 

[Comiies]

You guys give Selebus too much credit, he's one of the best at writing stories ever, but he's not an intellectual genius.
If you've seen his twitter he's the typical liberal know-it-all who thinks he's better than everyone else.

Imagine Brian Griffin but he can actually write a good story

Feed me the drama.Inject it into my veins(Pls do so im bored and the theory crafting has burned a hole in my brain)

 

[Detective Dc345]

Spoiler: Interesting Question Sel Answered

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[Xiondingens]

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So he is proud of the creation of a character i wasnt even sure was actually part of the game because that name didnt ring a single bell and even after checking the wiki i have no idea who that is suppose to be? That is a weird answer man.

 

[somepersonoutofnowhere]

So he is proud of the creation of a character i wasnt even sure was actually part of the game because that name didnt ring a single bell and even after checking the wiki i have no idea who that is suppose to be? That is a weird answer man.

Kyoko is one of those "look deeper to find" characters if I remember right, but there was a list of names in last halloween as a "special thanks."

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[JelF547]

So he is proud of the creation of a character i wasnt even sure was actually part of the game because that name didnt ring a single bell and even after checking the wiki i have no idea who that is suppose to be? That is a weird answer man.

Sure we will see Kyoko in the next few chapters, she was activelly teased in third. She might be a bridge between LiL, Nothing is Beautifull and upside down house

 

[ccxvidonaferens]

I really hope it's Noriko just for the poor girl's sanity.

Hey. Sanity's overrated. Slightly unhinged works for me.

 

[Xiondingens]

Kyoko is one of those "look deeper to find" characters if I remember right, but there was a list of names in last halloween as a "special thanks."

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More like a "blink and you missed it" character.

Sure we will see Kyoko in the next few chapters, she was activelly teased in third. She might be a bridge between LiL, Nothing is Beautifull and upside down house

So you think she will become a real character and much more fleshed out? Because as she is right now, she isnt even a character to me. So i really am not sure what Sel is even suppose to be proud of here. Or does he speak about what he has written off-screen that no one of us has seen?

Or is this just a joke he made and i didnt even realise it was a joke?

 

[JelF547]

So you think she will become a real character and much more fleshed out? Because as she is right now, she isnt even a character to me. So i really am not sure what Sel is even suppose to be proud of here. Or does he speak about what he has written off-screen that no one of us has seen?

We would surely get more information about her, the only question is when. Also, I think Sel is half-joking there

 

[Hario1225]

oh we talking about feet now? consider me in.

 

[fdsasdf_p]

So he is proud of the creation of a character i wasnt even sure was actually part of the game because that name didnt ring a single bell and even after checking the wiki i have no idea who that is suppose to be? That is a weird answer man.

I agree that this choice is weird. Like, even when I can acknowledge her potential importance and can recall each instance of Kyoko’s appearance in the game, the reason behind choosing her over the rest of the girls or entities he created still is beyond me.

I just chalk this up to an attempt in stirring discussion and nothing more, like that “Tsubasa being more important than the community thinks she is” Q&A; it doesn't really mean anything until it's proven otherwise by updates.

 

[Xiondingens]

I just chalk this up to an attempt in stirring discussion and nothing more, like that “Tsubasa being more important than the community thinks she is” Q&A; it doesn't really mean anything until it's proven otherwise by updates.

Yeah, sounds like something he would do.

 

[JelF547]

I just chalk this up to an attempt in stirring discussion and nothing more, like that “Tsubasa being more important than the community thinks she is” Q&A; it doesn't really mean anything until it's proven otherwise by updates.

Cmon, Tsubasa's importance was kinda proved by updates, but most part of community doesn't get it. She knows about Yasu's religion (Priestess of Fallen Snow IIRC), she understands importance of Akira, so she basically understands the rules of the divine game and definetly can interfere. If she would not be important, who would?

 

[DeSkel15]

Hm, the recent fetish talk reminded me of Touka's fetish:

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Which definitely explains what happened recently:

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I wonder if "us" being Kyoko in Chapter 3's 'An Excerpt From a Waterlogged Journal' is meant to imply something:

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Definitely seems related to the Upside Down House stuff, and whatever that's about. Perhaps even about "how the world works", if she's Nodoka's mother:

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[notproudofbeinghere]

Guys I think you are all forgetting the fact that LiL is just the beginning of a larger universe called 'The Wishing Well' where all of Selebus's works will take place. I don't think Kyoko would have any important role in this game at least.

 

[crustlord12]

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Sel is definitely the kind of pedant to say "you didn't say which character in LiL, just which character I'm most proud of creating altogether"

 

[Comiies]

Guys I think you are all forgetting the fact that LiL is just the beginning of a larger universe called 'The Wishing Well' where all of Selebus's works will take place. I don't think Kyoko would have any important role in this game at least.

excuse me what? I thought bro would blow his load and be done with it when LiL and maybe NiB are done.

 

[fdsasdf_p]

Cmon, Tsubasa's importance was kinda proved by updates, but most part of community doesn't get it. She knows about Yasu's religion (Priestess of Fallen Snow IIRC), she understands importance of Akira, so she basically understands the rules of the divine game and definetly can interfere. If she would not be important, who would?

I had to go back and find that snapshot to perhaps reiterate what I meant.

I am not asking proofs of "Tsubasa being important"; I am asking "what do you mean by Tsubasa being more important than we thought she was?" When it comes down to it, his response brings nothing new to the table.
It could be mean that she will actually be a part of the fuckery. Or, as unexciting as it might sound, it could just mean that she's not just a piece of meat for tit fetish that does absolutely nothing to Sensei's relationship and mental state (which is already proven incorrect).

So once you ask yourself "what does he really mean", you'll soon get to a point where you either consider Selly deliberately foreshadowing something that is either plain obvious or something literally hasn't been implemented yet, or start assigning random and unverifiable importance to her because Selly has spoken so it must be true. For example, I've color coded your reply, and blue means your further elaboration is needed and red means a claim without sufficient evidence. And this is the part I meant "can only be proven by future updates", as I prefer waiting than conjecturing without knowing what direction I should go.