Ren'Py Lessons in Love [v0.49.0] [Selebus]

[Moonflare]

Putting all of Io's stuff aside.

Haven't we got Confirmation that what happened to Maya Prime is the same that happened to Akira, and that she is definitely Alive and that her memories can be brought back too?

Does that mean that Akira Prime is trapped somewhere too?
Does that mean that Nao-Chan can take us there too?


I also recently noticed a thing that reinforces my "Akira has holy sperm" theory which would be why the Users and other deities brainwash girls into loving Akira View attachment 3811504

this is on Niki's 2nd photo event

It looks like Maya Prime is trapped at her replica of heaven, yes. And in that sense, she could be brought back. However, if the narrator for that event is herself, she is both confirmed as a narrator (which could mean that her "restoration" is becoming an observer instead, and narrating the game same as Himawari), and confirmed to be shrinking (which could mean a lot of things, most troubling being that we have a time-limit to recover her from there).

Lastly, the question remains as to who is keeping her there. Pareidolia had no intention of saving her, so probably not him. That Nao-chan led Noriko there would point to USER4, but AmIOkay says that Noriko shouldn't be there, so it could be that USER4 had Nao-chan lead Noriko to another god's domain instead. Unclear for now.

 

[PhiloPhilo]

I think Yuki is one of the most grounded people in the plot. She doesn't judge because she fully recognizes that she has no right to. The things you're referring to are very specific in the sense that:

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Basically, Yuki hasn't got that much time left. Between battling with addiction and trying to have some relationship with her daughter, she won't be interfering with anything unless strictly necessary. Most importantly, her view of what is harmful to these girls is very particular because it borrows from what she went through at their age. Akira's treatment of them should look pretty good in comparison, almost "normal" actually. Edit: As an example, the idea of Akira actively trying to help Yumi find a job and not asking for sex in return baffles her. That's the sort of notion Yuki sees the world from.

I'm really split on it, honestly, and it's hard to put down why. I can't really argue with anything you brought up, though. Only thing I'd say is if you mean the

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event, I think she'd intervene there, too, at least with how clearly batshit both were acting. It just seems like there's one side of her that would look at it unfavorably specifically because she knows better now and has (mostly?) distanced herself from the Yakuza, and her old accomplices and way of life. She's still not a perfect person, and can't kick cigarettes and alcohol, but she's tried to generally be 'better' in a sort of 'good enough' way. No hurting people, living honestly, kicking the funky chalk/needle habit, and as a compliment to her character (holy fuck, Yakuza mommy) she's done pretty well. That makes me question if he'd said "Yeah I had sex with her" instead of kissed her, what she'd say. But on the other hand, her overall attitude is nonchalance and that "I've seen worse" sentiment like you mentioned. I'd really like to know, although that might mean another awkward scene with her walking in on something blasphemous.
Also, I did completely forget that he told her about that. I thought most recently her reservations were because of Sara though? Of the top of my head I can only recall Yuki being okay with him, like, hanging out with the girls way too much and whatnot. Anyway, if you keep handing me Ls I'm gonna ask for a punch card or something.

 

[Moonflare]

I'm really split on it, honestly, and it's hard to put down why. I can't really argue with anything you brought up, though. Only thing I'd say is if you mean the

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event, I think she'd intervene there, too, at least with how clearly batshit both were acting. It just seems like there's one side of her that would look at it unfavorably specifically because she knows better now and has (mostly?) distanced herself from the Yakuza, and her old accomplices and way of life. She's still not a perfect person, and can't kick cigarettes and alcohol, but she's tried to generally be 'better' in a sort of 'good enough' way. No hurting people, living honestly, kicking the funky chalk/needle habit, and as a compliment to her character (holy fuck, Yakuza mommy) she's done pretty well. That makes me question if he'd said "Yeah I had sex with her" instead of kissed her, what she'd say. But on the other hand, her overall attitude is nonchalance and that "I've seen worse" sentiment like you mentioned. I'd really like to know, although that might mean another awkward scene with her walking in on something blasphemous.
Also, I did completely forget that he told her about that. I thought most recently her reservations were because of Sara though? Of the top of my head I can only recall Yuki being okay with him, like, hanging out with the girls way too much and whatnot. Anyway, if you keep handing me Ls I'm gonna ask for a punch card or something.

Nonsense, man, we're all just talking lol People keep reminding me of things I missed all the time too.

Regarding Io, no, I mean that Yuki probably wouldn't go after Akira or something following "stomachache". Of course she'd interfere if she was there at the moment, or if she got the wrong idea about it, I think anyone probably would since seeing it from the outside it would very much look like it was forced.

Also, I wonder if it's more likely for Akira to have sex with Yuki or Yumi first. Probably Yuki? Can you imagine how the conversation will go when Yumi has been cucked by her mom? yeah, both seem very unlikely to be honest. I'd settle for all three of them going to see turtles, I think that'd be a hell of a win for Akira to put together.

 

[Fire Lord Zuko]

I'd settle for all three of them going to see turtles, I think that'd be a hell of a win for Akira to put together.

Hell, why not bring the whole family? Kaori would enjoy tagging along for that too. One of her picture messages is quite literally that of a turtle and her spitting facts about them.

If we can’t get the Akira/Yumi solo trip to see the sea turtles, then a trip with the whole Yamaguchi family is the next best thing. It’d be entertaining seeing all the interactions.

 

[PhiloPhilo]

Nonsense, man, we're all just talking lol People keep reminding me of things I missed all the time too.

Regarding Io, no, I mean that Yuki probably wouldn't go after Akira or something following "stomachache". Of course she'd interfere if she was there at the moment, or if she got the wrong idea about it, I think anyone probably would since seeing it from the outside it would very much look like it was forced.

Also, I wonder if it's more likely for Akira to have sex with Yuki or Yumi first. Probably Yuki? Can you imagine how the conversation will go when Yumi has been cucked by her mom? yeah, both seem very unlikely to be honest. I'd settle for all three of them going to see turtles, I think that'd be a hell of a win for Akira to put together.

True that brother. Mentioning destroy was probably dumb too, that event was a bit overboard. To be fair I didn't fully read it though, I checked it out of curiosity and then hit skip. The Sara walk-in scene was uncomfortable enough.

You know, the more I think about it, the more I think it depends which girl it is. Oddly enough, Yumi might be one she's fine with. Probably because she can "handle herself." But someone more ditzy, less mature, or less 'ready' might be a no-go. Something like, Tsukioka as the best example on the side "okay," and Yasu at the other end of the spectrum of "definitely not okay." And I think she'd be upset with other things, like if she knew that Chika thought they were exclusive and in a pretty serious relationship, rightfully so. But a rich girl that basically acts like an adult might get an "I probably would, too."

I'd agree that Yuki first is more likely. Personally, I'm rooting for Yuki to get her Yamaguchi spread first. Yuki is hot as fuck. And Yumi finding out that Akira banged her mom would be top 3 scenes in LiL.

I definitely want more wholesome scenes and Yuki scenes, getting a 'family' trip to the aquarium or something would be nice. One must imagine the VN reader happy...

 

[fdsasdf_p]

Haven't we got Confirmation that what happened to Maya Prime is the same that happened to Akira, and that she is definitely Alive and that her memories can be brought back too?

Does that mean that Akira Prime is trapped somewhere too?
Does that mean that Nao-Chan can take us there too?

Honestly, no. If this is about Noriko's pep talk then I want to point out that what happened to Sensei isn't exactly the same as what happened to Maya Prime.

What memories Sensei has been recovering slowly are fragments from the past prior to resets. Meanwhile, what defines Maya Prime is her accumulative experiences in the loops and her resulting attitude toward life; these are not the same. What would be a closer equivalent is current Sensei recovering "previous Senseis' memories", or Ayane recovering her “very first visit to the roof as a pregnant lady”. Thus, there is no Akira Prime or, technically, this current Sensei IS Akira Prime.

Of course, it makes narrative sense to have Maya Prime still linger somewhere that enables the possibility of bringing her back (and I demand it damnit!), but for now we can only indulge ourselves with optimism when going over whatever Transpacific Sadness Symposium might insinuate, as the nature of brining Maya Prime back is completely unprecedent.

Lastly, the question remains as to who is keeping her there. Pareidolia had no intention of saving her, so probably not him. That Nao-chan led Noriko there would point to USER4, but AmIOkay says that Noriko shouldn't be there, so it could be that USER4 had Nao-chan lead Noriko to another god's domain instead. Unclear for now.

My money is on HOPE/USER1 for a few reasons.
- In terms of gods, this replica of Heaven is seen occupied only by HOPE in the past events
- amiokay's screen time (along with the rest of the paranormal Maya clones) with any god is exclusively with HOPE iirc
- the deadline Sensei failed to meet back in Ch3 was from HOPE, so I am assuming it's also HOPE who bestowed the consequence and took Maya Prime away (I have to go over again what Pareidolia said immediately after Maya Prime got reset; currently I don't remember whether Pareidolia claimed that Maya Prime's death was exactly his doing, or he was just mocking Sensei's loss due to his inaction and complacency)

 

[Comiies]

So because my theories lately have been going around in circles i decided to watch some of the happy events and whatnot and i reached the event where we escape from our room.I wonder.Why was Sanna the one to come to us and not someone like Ami,ayane Niki noriko or Maya.Like Ami would KILL for us(she has in past cycles).Its truly curious.And Sensei talked to sana about this dream of his and it was kinda glossed over BUT i hope that it will be further developed in the future.Anyways my question is this.Why do you guys think was the reason why it was Sana that visited us?

 

[wmtruong]

Has anybody else had an issue where the skip button is grayed out and won't work? I'm currently trying to get back to the newest update after downloading a save file that ends at the latest Dorm Wars. I want to skip forward but the skip button is grayed out, even though all the other buttons like "girls" or "progress" are still clickable. Pressing "control" doesn't do anything either. Is there a way to fix this or alternatively does anyone else have a save file (without skipped events) so I don't have to be clicking for the next few hours?

 

[crustlord12]

Has anybody else had an issue where the skip button is grayed out and won't work? I'm currently trying to get back to the newest update after downloading a save file that ends at the latest Dorm Wars. I want to skip forward but the skip button is grayed out, even though all the other buttons like "girls" or "progress" are still clickable. Pressing "control" doesn't do anything either. Is there a way to fix this or alternatively does anyone else have a save file (without skipped events) so I don't have to be clicking for the next few hours?

Doesn't that just mean you've got unread text lol? Just click or press space??

 

[wmtruong]

Doesn't that just mean you've got unread text lol? Just click or press space??

Yeah, but I've already read through the game before. I lost my previous save file, so that's why I want to just skip through it so I'm up to date.

 

[k1n5l4y3r]

Yeah, but I've already read through the game before. I lost my previous save file, so that's why I want to just skip through it so I'm up to date.

Preferences>skip unseen text

 

[Moonflare]

(I have to go over again what Pareidolia said immediately after Maya Prime got reset; currently I don't remember whether Pareidolia claimed that Maya Prime's death was exactly his doing, or he was just mocking Sensei's loss due to his inaction and complacency)

It seemed like Pareidolia at least knew it was going to happen, as to it being his plan I don't know if that's enough confirmation.

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However not necessarily knowing that it would happen makes it his plan. Since Himawari possibly knew about it as well.

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All of that being said, Pareidolia implies that it was him, yes.

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As I said, I'm also curious as to who has access/made the replica of heaven for Maya Prime, and if every girl has one or is it just her as well.

 

[PhiloPhilo]

So because my theories lately have been going around in circles i decided to watch some of the happy events and whatnot and i reached the event where we escape from our room.I wonder.Why was Sanna the one to come to us and not someone like Ami,ayane Niki noriko or Maya.Like Ami would KILL for us(she has in past cycles).Its truly curious.And Sensei talked to sana about this dream of his and it was kinda glossed over BUT i hope that it will be further developed in the future.Anyways my question is this.Why do you guys think was the reason why it was Sana that visited us?

I personally think Sana and possibly Sara still have a lot of important story coming, considering their visions and seemingly being affected. I'm sure others have more to say about that, but I feel like that's looming in the background and Sana is more important than we realize yet. Enter deep speculation on the connection there here.

Failing that, Sana is one of the girls Akira had less sexual contact with / has taken the longest, and has mostly been in the friend role or the "fix each other" role. Hell, for a while she was more of a "niece" than Ami, considering he was looking after her and trying to help her better herself, but wasn't fucking her. So maybe Ami got compartmentalized, and Sana grown-up filled that role? I think it fits.

I had another train of thought, but I am a fucking moron, so I have lost it. Something about how she appeared right before he snapped out of it was in there somewhere. I'll edit if I remember what I was going to say

 

[Moonflare]

Why do you guys think was the reason why it was Sana that visited us?

because

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As for in-narrative reasons, we're still in a part of chapter 4 where the focus is on Akira dealing with Maya stuff, but if you remember, chapter 3 was centered around Ayane and even Himawari stuff after a certain point. So it could be that we simply haven't got to the Sana stuff yet.

As for it making sense in chapter 3, well, Sana was saved by Pareidolia, and she was the last one Akira got together with before the reset (that was a new girl). Maybe I'm missing something, but I feel like that's enough.

 

[Comiies]

It seemed like Pareidolia at least knew it was going to happen, as to it being his plan I don't know if that's enough confirmation.

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However not necessarily knowing that it would happen makes it his plan. Since Himawari possibly knew about it as well.

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All of that being said, Pareidolia implies that it was him, yes.

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As I said, I'm also curious as to who has access/made the replica of heaven for Maya Prime, and if every girl has one or is it just her as well.

>The place where Maya Prime went
I believe that the thing that made Maya Primes heaven is something that we are still unaware off.Because lets think about it like this.Realistically most of the beings here could achieve something similar to what we have rn if they really wanted to.But would they?No.So lets examine each case.

>Hope
I think it doesnt have to be said but while Hope has his own world he has NO reason to create a heaven for Maya prime especially since he is so unhealthily obsessed with Akira.

>(Best Boy)Wires
Tbh Wires is the most probable being that could do this for Maya but i wouldnt bet on it,since Wires is busy helping us NOT break everything around us(Something that Sekai and Pareidola are advocating for)

>Pareidola
Fuck this guy.In all seriousness though no.From the moment this fucker appeared he has tormented Akira,pushed for the corruption and destruction of everyone around him and is generally my most hated god.Fucker even taunted us when Maya reset smh.

Im prolly missing some stuff like Tree or the 3 gods but as i said we know nothing about them so ima leave it stew.My pint though is this.From the very little stuff we DO know no one(except again maybe wires) would create this plane for Maya prime(Except maybe the God she prayed all this time to reset the world)

 

[Comiies]

because

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As for in-narrative reasons, we're still in a part of chapter 4 where the focus is on Akira dealing with Maya stuff, but if you remember, chapter 3 was centered around Ayane and even Himawari stuff after a certain point. So it could be that we simply haven't got to the Sana stuff yet.

As for it making sense in chapter 3, well, Sana was saved by Pareidolia, and she was the last one Akira got together with before the reset (that was a new girl). Maybe I'm missing something, but I feel like that's enough.

Hmm perhaps it is.I get that each chapter focuses on a different girl but its still somewhat weird.Oh well.I swear though if there isnt a Yumi focused chapter i will be sad

 

[Pedro4545454]

I think you're forgetting that that Sana wasn't Sana, Akira was just seeing her like that, because in fact that Sana was Maya. What happened there was the same thing that happened at Ami's event where Akira had sex with Ami thinking she was Maya.

 

[BlackDays]

So because my theories lately have been going around in circles i decided to watch some of the happy events and whatnot and i reached the event where we escape from our room.I wonder.Why was Sanna the one to come to us and not someone like Ami,ayane Niki noriko or Maya.Like Ami would KILL for us(she has in past cycles).Its truly curious.And Sensei talked to sana about this dream of his and it was kinda glossed over BUT i hope that it will be further developed in the future.Anyways my question is this.Why do you guys think was the reason why it was Sana that visited us?

I wouldn't be so sure if that was Sana.
The problem here is that Sel was reusing KK models for various girls. Either intentionally or maybe he just thought "cute".

Akira was already seeing Ami as Maya prior, so it's not so far to assume that it was Ami cosplaying Sana in the "Times New Roman" stuff.
Ami wanted Akira for herself all alone.
We also have the body outline on the floor, and probably Ami's dead body nailed to the wall.
My guess would be that Ami tried to infuse feelings of guilt into Akira.

At the same time she might have played the role of Sana, to have her refuge with Akira, while he did not realise it was Ami.

 

[brknsoul]

Koi cafe, morning, IIRC. Don't know if it's a specific day, might just be weekend or something

Looks like it's Saturday morning, Koi Cafe, Haruka, Hang out.
Thank you.

 

[PhiloPhilo]

Sana wasn't actually there, but she was the person he saw, or the model was similar. Which means that his mind put her there, or whomever was controlling what he saw in his mind did. Or you could subscribe to the theory that his mind was in another "place" (during some blackouts like that one) akin to the copy of heaven Mymy is in now or something similar — which opens up a huge can of worms. I don't know how many people think that, at least for this instance, I'll shelve that for now. But then the question is why. Just fun to think about. I'm like 95% certain Sana will be very important in the future and might tie into more than we know now. I'm 100% certain I'm still a fucking moron though, and I can't find the train of thought I lost earlier. Might come back to it later with more thoughts.