Bingoogus
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Under*, water over the bridge is a big problem, water under it is business as usual.
Moonflare
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It's Yuki we're talking about. Her bridge has been underwater for a long time nowUnder*, water over the bridge is a big problem, water under it is business as usual.
Fixed it, thanks.
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There is one thing that bothers me about the Sana/Pareidolia situation, and that is related to Sara. Just what does this even mean?
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NAO's embracing the same thing.
In fact, DeSkel15, have we ever found out who was the narrator for "ad infinitum" before Pareidolia showed up?
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To finish on a good note though, Himawari is such an ass: (and this event also might explain the older Sana thing)
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As a person who has just started playing this game, right? What on earth are all these theories I keep finding in the comments section of this game? Like reading some of them makes me feel like watching Interstellar Part Two or something. I thought this was just your run of the mill porn game with a school setting or something. Can someone explain just what on earth is going on with this game, but in like... short? Thanks!
Can someone explain just what on earth is going on with this game, but in like... short? Thanks!
Moonflare
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You play as a dude that doesn't know who he is and thinks that he has taken hold of another dude's body. Assuming this is all some kind of game, he sets forward trying to have sex with many girls.As a person who has just started playing this game, right? What on earth are all these theories I keep finding in the comments section of this game? Like reading some of them makes me feel like watching Interstellar Part Two or something. I thought this was just your run of the mill porn game with a school setting or something.
But he keeps getting these visions and weird stuff happens to his head, which makes him question if this is all really a game and who he was in the first place.
From then onwards, it basically circles around the "what is this place" and "who am i", it just gets progressively more complicated as the game moves forward.
You don't need to understand all the weird stuff on your first playthrough, just play it. If you become interested in that side of things, we can help you, or you can just replay.
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I definitely don't recommend reading this thread for lore until you've fully caught up. There's a puzzle guide on the first page, use that and the search bar liberally because this game is a fucking mess.As a person who has just started playing this game, right? What on earth are all these theories I keep finding in the comments section of this game? Like reading some of them makes me feel like watching Interstellar Part Two or something. I thought this was just your run of the mill porn game with a school setting or something.
Welcome in, and don't forget to smile
Think of this as a horror mystery game with some porn in it rather than a porn game with horror in it. If that still interests you then jump in and come back to the forum when you're through all the spoilery bits.As a person who has just started playing this game, right? What on earth are all these theories I keep finding in the comments section of this game? Like reading some of them makes me feel like watching Interstellar Part Two or something. I thought this was just your run of the mill porn game with a school setting or something.
If this game could be easily summed up in a paragraph we wouldn't have 40000 comments here.
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Pretty sure it can be summed up in a single image of Akira's big penis
Or Himawari's double cock I suppose, depending on the user's preferences.
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Hmm I see; I can see two ways of interpreting what Pareidolia said during the 6th reset though.
Strictly speaking, else alone just means losing Prime Maya is solidly confirmed. To me his statement is somewhere between "Do I need to take something else from you again" and "Do I need to take something else from you as well"; if the former is true then it's Pareidolia who took away Maya Prime, if the latter is true then it's another god, but I honestly cannot make up my mind whether which end is more possible anymore.
Edit: Sensei himself believes to be Pareidolia that took her though.
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Apollo259
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I'll take a short line from the latest update that might partly summarize the game. Whether it will make any sense to you, I can't say... well... it probably wont.As a person who has just started playing this game, right? What on earth are all these theories I keep finding in the comments section of this game? Like reading some of them makes me feel like watching Interstellar Part Two or something. I thought this was just your run of the mill porn game with a school setting or something.
"O, terrible danger. O, big penis sex. O, world and its whirlpool. O, mole ratted necks."
"O, poetry, pottery, lottery, Shrek. O, rhyming - O, timing - On Dasher, On Deck!"
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Not laughing at you — definitely with you.As a person who has just started playing this game, right? What on earth are all these theories I keep finding in the comments section of this game? Like reading some of them makes me feel like watching Interstellar Part Two or something. I thought this was just your run of the mill porn game with a school setting or something.
This is NOT your typical school harem game. At all.
But I’m guessing you’re already figuring that out.
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Too few lizards might help explain the abundance of spiders.
aramaug
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I think it is Pareidolia narrating. He's illicitly using USER1's license to fuck with Sana, probably to make her scared of HOPE so that can swoop in as her "savior". Pareidolia shows up in person because someone (maybe Wires, maybe just automated system software) kicks him out from using USER1's account any more. Note that "account sharing is prohibited for new accounts" probably wouldn't apply for USER1's account, but it might for USER3 (as in the system detects that Pareidolia has accessed both USER1 and USER3 from the same "ip address").
I'm pretty sure Pareidolia does something similar with using USER1's account in Rin's Chapter 1 event "Window of the Waking Mind" (there have been a suspicious number of failed logins to USER1's account).
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Interestingly, there's another narrator in "Ad Infinitum" before Sana starts seeing things, who also gets kicked out for improper use of USER1's license. It sounds like they're talking about Yasu's rope metaphor, which would mean the rope is Kumon-mi and/or all of its residents.
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The idea of breathing together is a callback both to the game's first narrator and to what Sensei thinks during the first reset.
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And then one more thing: again, it says account sharing is prohibited for new accounts. Assuming that USER1 isn't the new account, that would mean the narrator has access to a new account. Maybe USER4 is involved?
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As a person who has just started playing this game, right? What on earth are all these theories I keep finding in the comments section of this game? Like reading some of them makes me feel like watching Interstellar Part Two or something. I thought this was just your run of the mill porn game with a school setting or something.
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I'm having an error loading my save from version 0.40.0, does anyone know a solution or have a save juts before the new update?
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I have a few vague thoughts. Aramaug beat me to some of it, though. Apologies in advance, this will probably be a long one.
Pareidolia echoes what Sara says stating that it's all in Sana's/Akira's head. This seems to be unreliable though, as Pareidolia does that a lot for his own reasons, and Sara is simply trying to convince Sana. Personally, I don't think Pareidolia was the one causing her visions, I think he shows up. Knowing that the visions have happened to Sana before and Sara before that, it isn't unprecedented. Whether User 1 is logged out because of Pareidolia triggering them to be flagged as unauthorized, or logged in himself and booted them off, or it happened automatically, I'm not sure. If you'll humor the idea, I think it's possible that there are three narrators in Ad Infinitum, with Pareidolia obviously being the last. User 1's connection is actually severed twice in ad infinitum. There's the first time, after which the narrator's speech shifts tonally, before it finally becomes erratic.
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As for the specific imagery of Sana being held by the angel in the same way Ami is, it could be a couple things. The angels are interesting, because they don't show up all the time, and most of the time it's during Akira's delusions, largely during resets or when he's taken somewhere (mentally) like the game shows or strange places. We do see angels in what might be where they come from though, specifically in How I Feel, where Hope brings us to the strange room he has AmIOkay strapped in a machine. Seemingly they are actually agents of Hope and possibly the others. That might be dubious, though. I think in the case of Sana at least, the angel isn't necessarily there and holding her, it visually shows us her in Hope's 'grip'. 今 is a bit of a mess, though. This is what she says while that frame is on screen:
This could all be foreshadowing of some sort. Sana's depiction in this pose might be alluding to this, and how her pain/story climax is yet to come. It could also be a reused asset. I would think it's purposeful, but I don't think we can say what that purpose is 100%. You can be sure that it's related to the direct influence being exerted on the characters, though. In the end, I'm left admitting that once again, my best proposition is "visual story telling."
Now, the moments before the reset are a fucking nightmare if you overanalyze things. I spoke on Sana already, but as far as Ayane, we have to choose what we think.
1. It's all in Akira's head
2. It's all in Akira's head, but what he sees is influenced by [User/God] and not merely his mind
3. His consciousness is in another "place" ala mayo prism, and what he sees may or may not be someone interacting with him or creating a world/people for him
And then this post becomes 50 pages. To keep it brief, Ayane would make sense to be there in his head, probably less interesting than Sana being there as an adult. If someone put her there or is acting as her in option 2/3, that's more interesting. Himawari would do that, but how likely is she to be there? She's trying to save Akira from something there, either resetting Maya or watching it happen, but who and why? I don't have any good answers right now, so I'll let someone else do the heavy lifting.
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I think it's Sekai and Pareidolia that are currently keeping Maya Prime prisoner, whether or not they are the ones that killed her (I think they did that as well, with Himawari's help, but that's a subject for a different post).
From "DEN OF THE MOLERAT" itself:
- The PA voice says the same thing as in Pareidolia's reset
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- There's the shadows that look like spiderwebs
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- AmIOkay is writing "LET ME OUT" on the board over and over, a phrase which is associated with Sekai in "Something Everyone Knows and Ignores" and "Worry Not, the Mason Jar"
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- The room is in perpetual darkness and no sun (i.e. HOPE's light) can reach it
- Sensei thinks he's someone's shadow and AmIOkay addresses him as Sekai
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- AmIOkay says some stuff that sounds like it might be coming from Sekai
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- During the flashing images, a hand appears on the right side of the screen that I'm pretty sure is Kaori's (I don't think anyone else ever uses black nail polish). The T-pose stuff also seems to be connected to SekaiDolia in general.
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- HOPE went to Wires's domain (the old district) in "Trinity pt. II", so it makes sense that he would go to Pareidolia's domain in the third trinity event.
- The event is probably narrated by Pareidolia, no one else would say things like this:
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- USER3 takes control of the Terminal at the end of the event
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Well, you convinced me, well done. And damn, that Kaori detail was amazing. So Maya Prime is being held by Pareidolia (and likely Sekai as well), and USER4 used Nao-chan to sneak Noriko in there?
There are a few points that could be argued in this, like checking AmIOkay's presence in there and cross-referencing her appearances throughout the game to see if she's acting as a freelancer as well, or always connected to Pareidolia. The classroom being in the dark could point to Wires instead, and it would align with Maya praying to him - since Wires is in the dark, and Pareidolia is the dark (thanks, Selebus, not confusing at all...) - but those are individual questions, and given the sheer amount of evidence put together, I'm convinced.
AmIOkay does show up just before "untitled", but that's an event where Sekai saves Akira (presumably), not Pareidolia.
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Edit: There is also another question that doesn't have to do with this per say, but I was reminded of it. Yasu classifies different gods in one of her events and points to one of them that lives underneath a bed of/sea of worms. By process of elimination, we might figure out which of the gods is aligned with worms from that. Worms had been a Sekai think until now if I recall correctly.
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My guess is world itself, HOPE, and Wires. But it's surprising Wires would be associated with worms. Could Yasu be talking about Sekai? If so, Yasu is recognizing her presence even more than Pareidolia's. Could be USER4 as well since it's "concealed"...
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