barglenarglezous
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Oof. Hit my reaction limit again. Too bad. I always love reading your posts.
Now correct me if I’m wrong of course, but wasn’t it Wires who restores Akira’s first memory with Niki in “Spotless Mind”? The one where Noriko brings him the box at Christmas 2?
I’m away from my computer for now so I can’t post screenshots, but I remember just before “Spotless Mind” started, you had to answer some survey questions that had to do with Reset 4, and the pink smile typically associated with the Wire God was in the background as He asked these questions.
It also makes sense for Wires to have been involved with this since, as you pointed out, Noodles the Bird was seen in the background along with Himawari observing Sensei and Maya in “Glued to the Sky”. For what other purpose would Noodles just randomly be there?
I think the Wire God is involved. At least with the regaining of that Niki memory.
But anyway, as far as Maya being the identity of the “Miserably Ever After” narrator, I could see it. The zoo animal comparison is definitely worth keeping an eye on. We’ll have to pay attention if that or something similar comes up again. Same with anything that might support the Tsubasa Narrator theory.
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Regarding the survey:
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That aside, it is Wires that restores his memories. But the overall move to have Noriko deliver him the letters, and her school falling into the abyss (which is where Pareidolia lives presumably - and from where he pretends to be Wires. I also don't know where exactly the school fell into, knowing that would be nice) is likely to be Pareidolia's scheme, as he's the only one that benefits from it. That's what I meant.
I did overlook Wires presence there though, so thanks for that. I'm very curious about his intentions, as I can barely pinpoint when it was him during the game. He restores Akira's memories, he sends Noodles to observe the aftermath, and then has Noodles again watching the Sekai restoration. What does he gain from any of this? I'd be willing to assume he's just observing in case he has to prevent the world being broken, but that he led Akira to the writer's room with Nao-chan seems to suggest some form of agenda. I just don't know.
What event can you fuck yumi? I looked at the wiki I couldn't see one. Don't tell me she's unfuckable?!
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Wowwwww no way they locked some of the best girls away. I thought a major point of the game was that we can fuck everyone. That sucks
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I still cant make up my mind on that narrator either, mainly because I think the "two of us return to form" line only seems to be used in relation to Sekai, but I'm not entirely sure if she fits very well either.
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Damit, how does Selebus always manage to make things seem so obvious and unclear at the same time.
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You most likely will be able to. Just not yet. Also, not having a lust stat does not equal no sex.
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Yup. Yumi isn't lewd-able... yet. Neither is her mother Yuki. According to Selebus, they'll all be. Eventually. But we're way less than half-way into the game at this point.
The characters with a lust stat currently are:
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You also get to watch Wakana and Osako get freaky a couple of times, and in the most recent update, you can fool around a bit with poor Imani. And if you're a really horrible person, you get to fuck a completely uninterested Io, who's just been telling you about the damage her mother's sexual abuse did to her, in one of the least sexy sex scenes ever.
Also, an update or so back, there's the Nodokathon, a bizarre sequence where a bunch of the girls "compete" in various sexual games. It's bizarre mostly because it's hard to believe that any of the girls involved — Makoto, Noriko, Rin, Molly, Kirin, and Sana — would trust Nodoka at all in that moment... But that's a story for another day.
ETA: Oh! And how could I ever forget Maya!
ETAx2: There's also some girls who have gallery scenes that are kinda sexual — Touka and Chika (who're both drunk off their asses) show Akira their tits; and — in yet another completely unsexy sex-ish scene — Nodoka blackmails Yumi into strippoing and masturbating in front of her and Akira.. And many of the "Happy" scenes feature acts that look vaguely like sex.
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Ami. It's not like she is changed as a character, but it's about how I started accepting her despite she is a bitch
Tsuneyo. It took a lot of time to catch even a glance of understanding, but now I get her (i think)
Touka. She was comedy relief character for me and now she is a real girl
Karin. I had a higher opinion about her, but after the
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Very helpful thanksYup. Yumi isn't lewd-able... yet. Neither is her mother Yuki. According to Selebus, they'll all be. Eventually. But we're way less than half-way into the game at this point.
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You also get to watch Wakana and Osako get freaky a couple of times, and in the most recent update, you can fool around a bit with poor Imani. And if you're a really horrible person, you get to fuck a completely uninterested Io, who's just been telling you about the damage her mother's sexual abuse did to her, in one of the least sexy sex scenes ever.
Also, an update or so back, there's the Nodokathon, a bizarre sequence where a bunch of the girls "compete" in various sexual games. It's bizarre mostly because it's hard to believe that any of the girls involved — Makoto, Noriko, Rin, Molly, Kirin, and Sana — would trust Nodoka at all in that moment... But that's a story for another day.
ETA: Oh! And how could I ever forget Maya!
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You're very welcome.
Honestly? It's probably less helpful than you think. But let us know your thoughts as you play through!
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Imagine revealing that green path is not more possible right after Stomachache
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That would... suck. Just saying.Imagine revealing that green path is not more possible right after Stomachache
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Say it to billion Io fags, who hurted Io just because they were on a green path
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I activated my 'tism and went through every line of dialogue in the game* mentioning the word "animal" in order to find more leads on the Akira-as-a-captive-animal-for-Pareidolia/others thing. And I found... Not much. I will post screenshots/thoughts on interesting findings, but these are almost certainly not correlated. If this analogy is important, we'll have to wait for more.
1) Far more often, the girls are likened to animals rather than Akira. Most of the time this is in the form of 'slaughtered' animals, with Akira or whoever else being a vulture or scavenging bird. Other references that came up multiple times include humans being like cornered animals in certain situations. Clueless, scared.
2) The term 'lamb' is something I've brought up before, and appears more often in relation to Akira. I have not gone over all of those lines yet, (thankfully there are a lot less, unfortunately I believe they will need more examination to create any kind of theory beyond just basic symbolism,) but I'd be willing to do so to chuck my thoughts out there and have others chime in. The symbol of a lamb as a sacrifice seems to be more important and pervasive. This one instance from the desk of the ninth god referring to Akira as more of a caged animal might illuminate the 9th god's, pareidolia's, or whoever else's feelings about Akira and how they plan to use him — and may actually be more telling, because it's the only time the analogy is made, which could help identify narrators/entities later on. I think Maya's line is probably just a throwaway line, honestly, and not foreshadowing/related to this line from the 9th god, but that's just my hunch as of now.
3) The term Zoo doesn't come up anywhere else, either, besides "petting zoo."
Again, not much to go on yet. There may or may not end up being much to this analogy long-term. Animal(s) usually refers to the girls being sexed or used, or anyone who's lost, frightened, etc. And again, I think there's more to go over concerning the symbology of lambs, if anyone's interested, but that might take more time and is a different topic.
*I may have missed some or a lot of things. I also didn't go over the vast majority of cases that weren't relevant and/or were just examples of point #1.
**Removed a section I misread/misinterpreted, saved for later discussion. Thanks to Aramaug for context & correction
1) Far more often, the girls are likened to animals rather than Akira. Most of the time this is in the form of 'slaughtered' animals, with Akira or whoever else being a vulture or scavenging bird. Other references that came up multiple times include humans being like cornered animals in certain situations. Clueless, scared.
2) The term 'lamb' is something I've brought up before, and appears more often in relation to Akira. I have not gone over all of those lines yet, (thankfully there are a lot less, unfortunately I believe they will need more examination to create any kind of theory beyond just basic symbolism,) but I'd be willing to do so to chuck my thoughts out there and have others chime in. The symbol of a lamb as a sacrifice seems to be more important and pervasive. This one instance from the desk of the ninth god referring to Akira as more of a caged animal might illuminate the 9th god's, pareidolia's, or whoever else's feelings about Akira and how they plan to use him — and may actually be more telling, because it's the only time the analogy is made, which could help identify narrators/entities later on. I think Maya's line is probably just a throwaway line, honestly, and not foreshadowing/related to this line from the 9th god, but that's just my hunch as of now.
3) The term Zoo doesn't come up anywhere else, either, besides "petting zoo."
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Again, not much to go on yet. There may or may not end up being much to this analogy long-term. Animal(s) usually refers to the girls being sexed or used, or anyone who's lost, frightened, etc. And again, I think there's more to go over concerning the symbology of lambs, if anyone's interested, but that might take more time and is a different topic.
*I may have missed some or a lot of things. I also didn't go over the vast majority of cases that weren't relevant and/or were just examples of point #1.
**Removed a section I misread/misinterpreted, saved for later discussion. Thanks to Aramaug for context & correction
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It's definitely Sekai talking in "The Clod and the Pebble". It's interesting that she talks about Ami's mother and the possible return to form only in the third person. I guess this supports one theory that I'm currently partial to, which is that outside of memories/happy events, we've only seen one Sekai, but it's a fake one created by Pareidolia. So the "return to form" would be for the real Sekai, who is also the moon that SeKaori claims is never coming back in "Il Cervo".
The "we" that are coming to help Sensei are probably the same ones who sent the gift of Nao-chan, and thus are somehow related to USER4 (I think Moonflare was the one who pointed this out to me).
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I'd like to add one more reason (another shout-out to Moonflare here) for thinking Maya narrates "Miserably Ever After", in that the event starts by showing Maya's goodbye letter, followed closely by the narrator saying "signed - the one who drowned in [the wishing well]". I think it's likely that Maya Prime drowned in the well when she "died".
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