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barglenarglezous

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Just replying to clear what it was incase no one had said, you're correct about it saying date. It is tree, which imo also makes more sense than dream. Lastly, as hilarious as it would be for Akira to be called Fat Boy, it's unfortunately Frog Boy.

Edit: I'd absolutely love to see
Akira asking a question to Pareidolia just to get told "Wouldn't you like to know WEATHER BOY"
"Fat" was the only one I was pretty sure I was wrong about, but I couldn't make out what else it could possibly have been, so thank you very much for this.
 

BlackDays

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The original point of Yumi ever bringing up her last name is because Yuki quitted yakuza, and she shouldn't have a reason to keep using that last name; the name itself doesn't have a special meaning other than the fact that perhaps Selly chose the name Yamaguchi for some irl authenticity, like the reference you mentioned.

But gumi (組) is not a name; it's an unit. Think of it as a combination of platoon, gang, and family; a word used for describing organizations.
Yeah, i'm really not sure.
The thing is we have Amy. And if we have a pattern there, it could really be Gumi.
And people having names that might translate to cube, horse, apple whatever is a thing.
Al Bundys adoptive sons name was Seven, so people (Authors) came up with strange things like that already.

But if it helps, imagine i said it as a joke, because as i said, i really am not sure.
On the other hand i have a feeling that Hope might know Yumi under the name Maya.
But that belongs to some other theories i have.

/e also LoveBlueHairedGirl
 

Moonflare

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On the other hand i have a feeling that Hope might know Yumi under the name Maya.
But that belongs to some other theories i have.
Hope? It's Pareidolia that says he knows her by a different name when Akira says he's with Yumi outside the abyss (in the event "abyss").

I took it to possibly mean that Pareidolia was referring to the other person with Akira = Sekai. But yeah, if he was indeed referring to Yumi, then it's possible she's occupied Maya's place in previous cycles at the very least. There seems to be evidence from that following the last update, from the choice of song and angle being very close to "I'll deliver you to the fireflies", to the overall implication of them being a thing in previous cycles.
 

BlackDays

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Hope? It's Pareidolia that says he knows her by a different name when Akira says he's with Yumi outside the abyss (in the event "abyss").

I took it to possibly mean that Pareidolia was referring to the other person with Akira = Sekai. But yeah, if he was indeed referring to Yumi, then it's possible she's occupied Maya's place in previous cycles at the very least. There seems to be evidence from that following the last update, from the choice of song and angle being very close to "I'll deliver you to the fireflies", to the overall implication of them being a thing in previous cycles.
Ok yeah. It's probably Pareidolia disguising as or trying to, Wires.
But that idea of mine, that it's Hope, is so old, back then we mainly only had Hope and "maybe" Wires.

The thing with Yumi and Maya maybe being the same person somehow, is also because they are alike in some fields, their character. Also the family situation, or how they had to learn to provide for themselfes from an early age.

And since it was mainly you that came up with the slipping thing, which is funny because atm i'm watching the "new" Quantum Leap, maybe in some time before the game (a period between older cycles and now) Maya slipped into a diffrent version of her, which is Yumi.
But as is said all this belong to some theories i have and they are not short.
One of the only things i think that might be true for all theories i have, is that we might be dealing with just a handful of real entities and the rest just being different version or shards of those.
 

Comiies

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I wonder if Yuki's absence from work could be related to her drug addiction and now this will be another thing Yumi will have to deal with amidst the love drama
Well addict psycology aside Yuki has said multiple times that she could always just rebound 1 day and she cant do anything about it.So i wonder if Akira will have sex with a drugged up Yuki in an effort to "Help her" just like he did with depressed Makoto(When her father died).
 

Xiondingens

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Hm, i was just thinking about the names. And did we here ever talk about that every person we actually encounter has the same latters as initials. A. A. I. I. U. U. Y. Y.

But not people we dont actually encounter. Like Sekai Arakawa, Nozomu Arakawa or Kyoko Nagasawa -i will just believe fdsasdf_p that is actually the name of nodoka's mother- but every other character we actually meet. Has the same initional. So, people that are actually trapped inside the city.

Lets me wonder if the names are actually real, or they are just part of the game the gods play.
 

cckerberos

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After looking into it a little bit, most of the names I double checked are well-known locations/cities, surnames (that often double as or originate from locations, i.e. toponymic names,) or the names of well-known people/characters/things. So I think Selebus most likely racked his brain for or googled common names and things to use for the characters that fit the matching initials thing. That's also the simplest explanation. I don't believe he knows any Japanese, but who knows.
Sel has an intermediate level of spoken Japanese. His kanji is terrible, though, and he's previously said that people shouldn't look for any significance in the kanji for the characters' names (and that most characters don't even have official kanji for them).
 

IPlay4Fun

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I played this game before it had that redhead with the megumin staff, i was planning to wait until it was finished since i liked the characters and the story (and devs usually change older content as time goes) but it doesnt seem to be close to be finished at all, am i wrong? How much content does the game have now?
 

barglenarglezous

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I played this game before it had that redhead with the megumin staff, i was planning to wait until it was finished since i liked the characters and the story (and devs usually change older content as time goes) but it doesnt seem to be close to be finished at all, am i wrong? How much content does the game have now?
In terms of word count, there's more content than any other game on this site.

In terms of H content, not so much, but H-content isn't the focus of the game (it's a game with H content, not an H game).

We're still 6 or so years out from completion.
 

aramaug

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That's quite a lot of extrapolation solely based off the fact that Futaba uses lavender-scented perfume. There are so many assumptions here that need to be all correct in order to have "Yuko aka DOUBT being this she" make sense when we can't even confidently discern what the upside down house really is.

To streamline your claim (apologies if I sound impolitely sarcastic), that means Yuko can leave the upside down house for books and groceries thus can also travel through planes, and got pregnant on aisle 23 when she was outside, and gave birth to Futaba, and had her adopted by others without Futaba's knowing it, and Futaba chose lavender-scented perfume because of the hair of a woman who Futaba doesn't know that's her bio-mom, and definitely not because it simply smells good.

I get that you're trying to fill the blank between "Futaba traveled through planes for the first time" and "There is someone in the upside down that has lavender for hair and Futaba actually uses lavender-scented perfume" and explore a potential bridge, but to do so all of the things described above would have to be true to a certain extent, otherwise the chance of this she being Yuko drops enormously.
You're getting my point backwards. I'm not starting from the idea that Nodoka is talking about Futaba's mother and then extrapolating that it must be Yuko, I'm starting from the idea that Nodoka is talking about Yuko and that Yuko and Futaba have been connected before, and then trying to interpret what Nodoka says about that connection here.

The things that Nodoka says about "she" in that passage point to Yuko more than they do to Kyoko:
  • "She" has the key to the attic. In "Lavender", Kyoko keeps telling Yuko to come downstairs while the screen shows stairs and "there's something in the attic" repeated.
  • "She" is the one who gets the groceries. Yuko is the one who fills the shelves with new books (so she has the ability to get physical items), and right after Kyoko tells her to "repopulate the shelves", her next sentence is telling her to put food on the table. When searching for something else, I just ran across an image from an old Apollo259 post that shows a shopping list with books and groceries signed with a Y.
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Not to mention that Yuko is clearly special in some way since Pareidolia doesn't list her as one of the five named residents of the house.
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At no point did I suggest that Futaba wears lavender perfume because of a conscious memory of Yuko's hair. Supernatural/symbolic parallels are very much a part of this game.

But in any case, the connection between Futaba, lavender, and the upside down house is more than just her perfume. When Sensei tries to remember her story of the upside down house, he hallucinates (thanks to Pareidolia?) lavender plants over her.
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In her first sexual scene, he compares her to a lavender garden.
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When Nodoka brings up the girl with lavender hair, Sensei explicitly connects her to Futaba.
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There's probably more that I don't remember. Honestly I didn't think it was controversial that there is some connection between Futaba and the girl with the lavender hair. Do you think Selebus intends it to be coincidence that two different characters are so strongly associated with lavender imagery?

It doesn't have to mean anything, but Nodoka's interest in Futaba seems to parallel Kyoko's obsession with Yuko.
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I forget the event(s), but at some point Nodoka implied that she only became friends with Futaba in the first place (which was pre-resets) because there was something unusually interesting about her.

The mother possibility was just speculation based purely on the way that Nodoka worded her sentence, it was not an idea I seriously considered before this update. To me, Nodoka saying "you're special because she was" implies more than just similarity, she thinks that there is causation involved. Heredity is just one possible cause.

After thinking about it more, it's unlikely that Yuko is her mother. At some point Futaba said she looks like her mother, which probably means that she isn't adopted and her mother doesn't have lavender hair.

Kyoko Nagasawa -i will just believe fdsasdf_p that is actually the name of nodoka's mother-
Futaba confirmed that Nodoka's mother is named Kyoko in this last update, though it was already speculated since Pareidolia listed a "Kyoko Nagasawa" along with other upside down house residents.
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