Ren'Py Lessons in Love [v0.49.0] [Selebus]

[aramaug]

The only thing I can add that's certain to all of this is that the events of the house happened in the past, and were, presumably, the start of the supernatural tampering with the gates but maybe not the resets.

All of this comes from "it all started before you were born, on the house by the lake".

Adding a bit of theorycrafting, we know Kyoko, or a version of her, got out of the house by the lake, because she gave birth to Nodoka and later had her body be taken care by her as her mind slipped somewhere.

From this, we can speculate that the events of the house by the lake are not the same as the resets because Kyoko, although she got out, did not ascend, but had to slip her mind after the events, still searching for her answer.

Maybe the events of the house were stopped somehow and everyone managed to escape to the real world again, which bodes well to the current simulation. Or, maybe they concluded but had another end goal, or even Kyoko was the odd one out.

Second theory, and wilder than the first, is that the events of the house by the lake aren't prior to Nodoka being born, but after it. Maybe Kyoko slipped into the house by the lake after Nodoka was born, and is there right now. This would align with Shiori also being there, but not Yuu or Saki (who are already dead).

Edit: Also, a lake is often used as a symbol for a gateway into another dimension, and an upside down house could be the reflection of a house by the lake on the surface of the water. Maybe the start of the supernatural events had to do with transporting the house into another realm, idk.

I'm not sure the house by the lake is the same as the upside down house. Ami remembers Grandma's house by a lake, so wherever it is now, it was accessible during her lifetime.

Spoiler: Goodnight Moon

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And it sounds like Grandma's house didn't have running water, but the upside down house has a boiler and Kyoko talks about taking a shower.

Spoiler: An Excerpt from a Waterlogged Journal

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So it's still possible that the upside down house is a reflection of Grandma's house and indoor plumbing was added later or something, but I'm not aware of evidence for that. Things starting before Akira was born could be as simple as Yuu's psychosis and its connection to Pareidolia.

I do actually like the idea that Kyoko's consciousness is currently in the upside down house, and she can't take care of herself in Kumon-mi because she's essentially in a permanent version of one of Sensei's blackouts. When Futaba says that she slipped somewhere upside down, Nodoka asked if she saw Kyoko, so Nodoka thinks (a version of) Kyoko is out there in some place that's upside down.

 

[Moonflare]

The wooden Upside House Room is always said to be located in outside world.

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There is also the possibility Nodoka is talking about the gate, not a house (also please take note that the torii Himawari, presumably, shows us is by a lake).

Spoiler: Perfect harmony

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Also about toriis, since I started, there's a possibility that Kumon-Mi itself is the space in the middle of the torii, a space between the real and the supernatural. I didn't think about this when I first read it, but take a look:

Spoiler: Perfect harmony

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I mean, it has been said many times that the things that happen in kumon-mi are both real and not real.

To finish it off, let's go back to Nodoka. Cause apparently she's trying to find Shiori? (or Kyoko) That flew over my head.

Spoiler: Beyond the reach of god

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If only Nodoka wasn't Nodoka, cause it's very compelling to see someone literally fighting the world with only fragmented memories of past selves as allies. Each being erased and leaving scraps forward so that one Nodoka might eventually crack the mystery and make their efforts mean something.

 

[Big-D69]

Weed

Smoke Weed Every Day

 

[Muk_king]

Got through 0.42 update.

Why must Chika suffer?

And is Geoffrey an offscreen shonen protagonist?

 

[shmurfer]

Got through 0.42 update.

Why must Chika suffer?

Everyone must suffer.

Chinami is next

 

[DeSkel15]

I admit that girl from Waterlogged Journal might be Himawari. But did Nodoka mention the girl in the dream have blue eyes? Or it's Makoto who dreamed on her? I don't quite remember.

The phrasing and composition suddenly reminded me of someone else.

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You must wake up.

Nodoka mentions the girl with blue eyes in Otoha's Chapter 2 'Breathing in Unison' Event:

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Her book also seems to randomly end in a room with clocks, which seems related to that Happy Event:

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[Moonflare]

Her book also seems to randomly end in a room with clocks, which seems related to that Happy Event:

Futaba - "You wake up in a room with clocks."

I can't help but think of the room with the clocks like the ending to the first Doctor Strange movie.

Spoiler: AmIOkay, I'm here to bargain

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She does say in "Tick Tock Tick Tock" that it's only his stubbornness that keeps the room with the clocks as the edge of the world, rather than the end of it. Which I interpret as Akira being the one responsible for resetting everything each time it comes to an end = putting another clock on the wall to turn back time.

I guess that also kind of makes Akira a player of Dark Souls refusing to go hollow, albeit one the the most self-deprecating and misguided of them.

 

[Moonflare]

What the hell, did Selebus himself edit

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on the wiki? Cause it reads completely different from usual wiki entries and it's very much against their usual guidelines.

There's also a part talking about the person writing this being above the administrators of the wiki.

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If these are true, then we have her birthday, which is on december 28. Which is also:
In which AmIOkay shows up and asks Akira if he's found the paradox yet.

Spoiler: December 28, 2020

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Edit: Added screenshots but, seriously, check the article it has a lot of stuff.

And if Himawari was born on this day, then it was her birthday during "Untitled", and maybe on "Glued to the Sky". It also puts into perspective her saying she hasn't put on her birthday crown yet on "Arms bent back".

 

[Detective Dc345]

What the hell, did Selebus himself edit

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at the wiki? Cause it reads completely different from usual wiki entries and it's very much against their usual guidelines.
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There's also a part talking about the person writing this being above the administrators of the wiki.

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If these are true, then we have her birthday, which is on december 28. Which is also: View attachment 3965060
In which AmIOkay shows up and asks Akira if he's found the paradox yet.

Spoiler: December 28, 2020

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Edit: Added screenshots, but, seriously, check the article it has a lot of stuff.

It also looks like Himawari has done something to Onund, God of The Hole's page. I have no clue if this was there before could someone please verify.

 

[Moonflare]

It also looks like Himawari has done something to Onund, God of The Hole's page. I have no clue if this was there before could someone please verify.
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Himawari's page very much didn't exist before due to possible spoilers/unconfirmed things about her. Which is why this is so off from their guidelines. The only explanation as to why it's allowed to be there (after presumably being deleted/corrected once) is because it was Selebus himself.

Or the administrators really don't care anymore and are off the rails.

(checked the onund page, and it's completely different in every shape and form). This all reeks of Selebus, there's even a category for the posts that "she" has altered:

Spoiler: HimawariEdits

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[Fire Lord Zuko]

Weird, glitchy changelogs? Himawari adding wiki entries?

Yup… This Reset’s about to be wild asf, isn’t it?

I dunno about y’all, but I really enjoy this out-of-game meta stuff that we’re able to find. Really sets the mood that something’s off and is about to happen.

 

[shmurfer]

Selebus heard y'all and is drumming the wiki harder.

 

[Detective Dc345]

Himawari's page very much didn't exist before due to possible spoilers/unconfirmed things about her. Which is why this is so off from their guidelines. The only explanation as to why it's allowed to be there (after presumably being deleted/corrected once) is because it was Selebus himself.

Or the administrators really don't care anymore and are off the rails.

(checked the onund page, and it's completely different in every shape and form).

Found this in the wiki channel of the discord

Also the kind folks in the discord added a section to wiki dedicated to Himawari's edits.

It looks like Himawari has only made 3 edits to the wiki so far and all of them were made on August 17th. So this ARG has been going on for about two weeks now possibly even longer if you include all the Are You Happy Here twitter posts.

 

[Moonflare]

Found this in the wiki channel of the discord
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Also the kind folks in the discord added a section to wiki dedicated to Himawari's edits.
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It looks like Himawari has only made 3 edits to the wiki so far and all of them were made on August 17th. So this ARG has been going on for about two weeks now possibly even longer if you include all the Are You Happy Here twitter posts.
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Selebus, that is here via fake account as we all know it, saw the repercussion on his "I said it so it's true" meme, and decided to pull an actual arg instead of just random statements and tierlists.

Thanks you Selebus, you're becoming a better Selebus.

 

[shmurfer]

Careful about praising Selebus for becoming a better Selebus, Selebus might become a worse Selebus to spite you.

 

[Detective Dc345]

Also here is a link to the God Hole's wiki page so the lore masters can stroke their lore boners to it.

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[Detective Dc345]

Update: The Ascension voice channel has reverted back to Mollycomms

Spoiler: Ascension to Mollycomms

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[DeSkel15]

Hm, for some reason, Himawari's appearances according to Himawari on the Wiki:

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Does not include her appearance in The Chapter 3 'Our Fathers' Main Event:

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Which could imply:

• That that wasn't Himawari
• Sel/Himawari doesn't want this appearance to be on the Wiki
• Or they simply forgot

Edit: Also the 'A Life of Prizes' Chapter 2 Main Event:

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[Moonflare]

Hm, for some reason, Himawari's appearances according to Himawari on the Wiki:

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Does not include her appearance in The Chapter 3 'Our Fathers' Main Event:

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Which could imply:

• That that wasn't Himawari
• Sel/Himawari doesn't want this appearance to be on the Wiki
• Or they simply forgot

I always have to be reminded by you on that one, so I can't really judge Selebus this time He did miss "A life of prizes" though.

 

[Detective Dc345]

Hm, for some reason, Himawari's appearances according to Himawari on the Wiki:

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Does not include her appearance in The Chapter 3 'Our Fathers' Main Event:

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Which could imply:

• That that wasn't Himawari
• Sel/Himawari doesn't want this appearance to be on the Wiki
• Or they simply forgot

Where does Himawari appear in "The Place She Sleeps At Night?