Ren'Py Lessons in Love [v0.49.0] [Selebus]

[aramaug]

Honestly, I think Himawari has some traits that tend to give her away.

For example: she's not exactly the best at her job:

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Or jobs considering she's been a Scarf Salesperson at the Mall, a Waitress at some French restaurant, and a Melon Salesperson at the New Years Festival.

Sensei has seen through her as Sana as well:

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She tends to slip up.

Some other tells/traits that seem to belong to her:

• Doesn't actually seem to understand things, like the Resets, or what's going on.
• Has a desire for a designated cafeteria and has coworkers. Also eats Ramen.
• Has a connection to Sunflowers, Sensei, and Ayane.
• Has a fondness for Spanish related things. (Like Ayane.)
• Has a reason (to or) not to reveal certain things, which is implied to affect her future.
• Has blue eyes. (And probably likes blue considering it seems to be her color of choice)
• Is a Narrator.
• Isn't interested in a sexual relationship with Sensei.
• Is very positive and hopeful.
• Is working with and seemingly specifically protecting Ayane.
• Etc

There's probably other things like wanting to see things restored, not being the best at poetry, being jealous of Yumi's boobs, and being scared of Sekai, but those aren't entirely proven to be her, even if they seem likely to be her.

Overall: I think Sel would give at least a notable hint at her being there, instead of another character. It'd be up to the player to decipher it, though.

I'm still curious what was up with the whole offering Sensei some Goat urine to drink, thing, though:

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Maybe she was trying to cleanse Sensei from something without being obvious about it?

There's also the whole Ami clone thing, but I don't think that's something we'll understand until we're supposed to.

A couple more reasons to think that Himawari hasn't been secretly appearing in disguise everywhere:

• She's almost exclusively shown up in other planes (the room with clocks, the abandoned school, the festival) or places where the barrier between worlds is weaker (the beach, the mall). The only exception I can think of is when she's the waitress.
• As you pointed out before, she doesn't physically transform, it's Sensei's mind that perceives her as another girl. That might only be possible when he's blacking out. He's definitely blacking out during "Ad Meliora" and "Untitled", and while he's conscious at the abandoned school, he might be partially blacking out since he slipped there in the first place - and that would fit with her only partially turning into Nodoka.

 

[JackZero]

Spoiler: Jesus christ Sana

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[Riolol]

Now that you mention it, I don’t think we have. The closest we’ve come to seeing Otoha naked in game so far was her beach swimsuit, and even that wasn’t the most revealing.

Everybody thought Sana was the trap but nobody's looking at Otoha.

 

[fasoaga]

In earlier builds (39 or 40) when sensei and yasu were walking, she told her god doesn't have much influence in these parts of the town. I thought she was talking about two halves of he town and how one is controlled by HOPE. But did we saw that specific street somewhere else? Can't access to my pc so i can't check but do we know something about this?

 

[Tommykjohnson1990]

Honest question: do you think Akira will ever have sex with Miku after what happened? What about Sana? Or...

I think you don't know Akira very well. Or how horny those two girls are on the daily.

 

[Detective Dc345]

Spoiler: Happy Chika

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[JelF547]

Otoha has buns, yes. But something about her strikes me as too masculine to be attractive. I also dislike her as a person enough that her lewdibility doesn't register. That might change once she gets more screen time.

L take, masculinity is attractive

 

[Bingoogus]

L take, masculinity is attractive

Right? She's not even masculine though, does Muk find any chick who isn't a soft demure submissive masculine? Otoha falls right into the cool chick schtick.

 

[Detective Dc345]

Spoiler: I don't know what to name this

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[Detective Dc345]

Otoha has buns, yes. But something about her strikes me as too masculine to be attractive. I also dislike her as a person enough that her lewdibility doesn't register. That might change once she gets more screen time.

Othoha has the cool slightly tomboyish vibe about her. She's not Miku levels of tomboy and not Chika levels of girly. She's right in the middle.

Also dislikibilty not registering lewdibility is an oxymoron.

 

[DeSkel15]

Everybody thought Sana was the trap but nobody's looking at Otoha.

*cough* Himawari *cough*

Or should I say Akira Jr. dun dun dun.

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My first thought:

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[QuestionTime]

I tried to play and I haven't played since like 0.34 or something and for some reason I can't start "Eggside Octopus" I searched and saw someone said it's to do with Ayane's variable being checked twice making it 30/28 or something. I have URM so does anyone know what variable I'd have to change to get it to work? I also have the guide mod installed and all it shows is mother's milk plus two Ami lust events which im dodging because im being a good uncle. Can anyone help because it seems like my save is bricked.

 

[Muk_king]

Right? She's not even masculine though, does Muk find any chick who isn't a soft demure submissive masculine? Otoha falls right into the cool chick schtick.

To me Otoha feels like those 1990s shoujo-ai characters, especially Utena from Revolutionary Girl Utena. The ones meant to serve as the masculine half of a yuri couple. I can't unsee it at this point.

Otoha has the cool slightly tomboyish vibe about her. She's not Miku levels of tomboy and not Chika levels of girly. She's right in the middle.

Also dislikibilty not registering lewdibility is an oxymoron.

It seems like Otoha's coolness factor is an informed quality instead of a displayed one. If other characters didn't keep saying she was cool I would just think she was antisocial.
I actually like Miku. She has a charming personality and a good tomboy aesthetic. Somehow Miku registers as more feminine than Otoha.

 

[DeanNoriko]

Otoha is the kind of girl that has more guy friends than girl friends, then thinks she might be a lesbian and gets on it with a girl, to then realize she is just an average girl trying to find her place in life that happens to like typically boyish things more than most of her peers. Which is exactly what she has done so far (minus the guy friends part for obvious reasons). I wouldn't say it makes her masculine though, she can be cute and vulnerable.

From Akira's perspective, she is also the closest to a male buddy type of person in his class, with her definitely not really into him and with similar objectives (just do whatever, stay out of trouble, fuck Niki). At one point she admits that she sees him as her brother, which sums it up well.

On the surface, their relationship seems very similar to Akira's and Rin's. The difference is that Rin sees him as her cool Dad, who she would probably also fuck if given a safe environment to do so.
Though Otoha is probably getting their as well sooner or later.

*cough* Himawari *cough*

Or should I say Akira Jr. dun dun dun.

Akira having a son would probably open up a possibility for a sequel, given that Yuu might have been going through similar things as him, etc.
Whether that would make it more likely - I have my doubts. I would imagine Sel would like to have the story simply end after the purity routes.

But no, I can't imagine there being secret traps in the game. And as mentioned, if it had fit anyone, it would have been Sana.

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[Moonflare]

I tried to play and I haven't played since like 0.34 or something and for some reason I can't start "Eggside Octopus" I searched and saw someone said it's to do with Ayane's variable being checked twice making it 30/28 or something. I have URM so does anyone know what variable I'd have to change to get it to work? I also have the guide mod installed and all it shows is mother's milk plus two Ami lust events which im dodging because im being a good uncle. Can anyone help because it seems like my save is bricked.

Eggside octopus is unmissable.

If you want to try triggering it manually, it's "halloweenfour1". There's also a full log of the requirements at the wiki, you could check them one by one with URM to troubleshoot.

Although, if you have the guide mod and haven't tampered with the variables yourself through URM, I can hardly see what could have happened. Good uncle is a supported path in the game and will not cause your saves to fail. Maybe a bug while updating from an old build, that's my best guess.

 

[Bingoogus]

To me Otoha feels like those 1990s shoujo-ai characters, especially Utena from Revolutionary Girl Utena. The ones meant to serve as the masculine half of a yuri couple. I can't unsee it at this point.

I just can't see it man, she's feminine from head to toe for me, there's a whole lot of different types of girls under the feminine category and the cool chick is one of them, i'm bi and a big fan of futa and i get, like, absolutely no dick energy from her character, at all, just cause she's a top doesn't mean she wears a strap-on.

 

[Moonflare]

I just can't see it man, she's feminine from head to toe for me, there's a whole lot of different types of girls under the feminine category and the cool chick is one of them, i'm bi and a big fan of futa and i get, like, absolutely no dick energy from her character, at all, just cause she's a top doesn't mean she wears a strap-on.

I agree, I get no masculine energy from Otoha. She's just rocker chick.

I get how girls of a world with pretty much no men anymore might see her as a "prince", but by her own admission, that was always more of how people chose to see her than what she actually was. Which was nothing, she had no sexual nothing before Rin, and Otoha barely is anything besides a coward (only does something when things are handed to her) and a hypocrite (does a lot of messed-up stuff yet dares judge others).

Even her dream is like, what? "We'll both be stars and meet up from time to time in a farm somewhere to make love between shows?" Lamest most girly delusional rocker chick shit I've ever heard.

I've seen a lot of girls that were like Otoha on the outside, but would also be the kind of person on the inside that would bring girls into bathrooms while skipping class. Otoha is just meh, visuals without any substance (which is basically what the regular rocker teenager is anyway, lots of teen spirit without an actual cause grounded in reality). Which, by the way, a rocker that's training under an idol? Every rocker chick I've met would be rolling in their graves (and not in a fun way). At least there's her butt.

Edit: If we had to make a chart, Niki and Sekai both have way more "dick energy" as it were. Maya might depending on the weather, and Ami seems able either to fake it or manifest it through whatever's inside her.

 

[DeSkel15]

For those who'd like Io's input on Otoha:

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I feel like the idea of "girly" is based more on how hard one tries to be "cute". Otoha doesn't go for "cute". She goes for "cool", I mean just look at those rings...lmao.

Maya is around the middle of the spectrum being both "cool" and "cute", leaning towards "cool", with Io being her opposite leaning towards "cute", and Ami is probably around as "cute" as Otoha is "cool".

All subjective of course, and as that one shadow in the corner always tells me "if there's a hole, there's a goal". Or was it "Ghoul"? Hmm...

 

[Apollo259]

Spoiler: Happy Chika

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absolutely no dick energy from her character

Now I want to know which girls people think have "dick energy". Strangely enough Yasu is the first to come to mind for me... Then possibly Nodoka and Prince Ami.

 

[Bingoogus]

Now I want to know which girls people think have "dick energy". Strangely enough Yasu is the first to come to mind for me... Then possibly Nodoka and Prince Ami.

Honestly? None of them, not really, they're all girls/women to me, i don't even buy into the prince Ami stuff, she's still girly af to me. Closest you get is really just mistaking dom energy for dick energy, even Yuki, the butchest chick in the game is still a total chick to me, a hard af biker chick, but still a chick.