Ren'Py Lessons in Love [v0.49.0] [Selebus]

[DeanNoriko]

I've been so invested in renpy games I always get bamboozled whenever I play proper visual novel games with much more advanced programming

That is to say...Sel can't program for shit

To be fair to him, Sel is first and foremost a writer, this is clearly his strength and where his talent lies.
He doesn't need to know, or feel invested enough to pursue the knowledge of, how to incorporate more advanced mechanics into his game. Especially if that would be at the cost of the quality or timing of the updates.

That being said, his idea of engaging gameplay within the constraints of the Renpy engine is still pretty fucking dumb. I just attribute this to him being a chaotic genius of sorts, to put it mildly.

 

[Antosha]

Been trying to pinpoint Sel's alt for the last couple of months, gonna lay the results here once I got it

Which one?

I was in Harry Potter fandom (because of my kids, I swear!) back in the olden days of LiveJournal and such. Now, there was an online fandom! Huge and crazy, with factions and shipping wars and...

Into this lawless frontier there strode a fan named

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who created a whole army of sockpuppets that would argue with each other just to stir up shit and make her look good.* She was Munchausen's Syndrome personified. Of course, as a product of those prehistoric times, she didn't understand IP addresses, and so was eventually de-socked. In some ways, it was an audacious, creative act of online performance art. Mostly, it was first-class shit-disturbing.

Every time we get argy-bargy between relative newbies here, I raise a toast to MsScribe and her ever-expanding cast of characters. And then I wander on. Don't feed the trolls, etc.

* If you really want a fascinating, deep dive into this bizarre tale, check out

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. Jaw-dropping.

Why are you censoring your swearing? We're all playing a game about the cycle of child sexual abuse, i think we can handle a little swearing...

Heh. Old habits. This isn't the only place I fucking hang out, shithead. (And I mean that lovingly.)

 

[barglenarglezous]

I've been so invested in renpy games I always get bamboozled whenever I play proper visual novel games with much more advanced programming

That is to say...Sel can't program for shit

Pretty sure he would agree with that statement. I'm pretty sure he's said the same thing about himself more than once on the Discord.

 

[barglenarglezous]

To be fair to him, Sel is first and foremost a writer, this is clearly his strength and where his talent lies.
He doesn't need to know, or feel invested enough to pursue the knowledge of, how to incorporate more advanced mechanics into his game. Especially if that would be at the cost of the quality or timing of the updates.

That being said, his idea of engaging gameplay within the constraints of the Renpy engine is still pretty fucking dumb. I just attribute this to him being a chaotic genius of sorts, to put it mildly.

He's a writer first, and an internet troll second. The reset puzzles aren't intended to be engaging gameplay. They're meant to make you suffer for his art.

 

[Antosha]

Pretty sure he would agree with that statement. I'm pretty sure he's said the same thing about himself more than once on the Discord.

Good for him. "Know thyself."

Doesn't mean I don't want to smack him during the reset puzzles, though.

 

[LessonsInDissonance]

If anything, Ami's the one who never died

 

[Antosha]

If anything, Ami's the one who never died

I can see that — that maybe the whole ever-rebooting "simulation" (including her mother's ghost and our weirdly inconsistent point-of-view character) is happening in her head.

I'll say again, though: I'm not sure they're not all dead. :shrug:

 

[Hario1225]

Which one?

Funny cause I always thought Bingoogus was always suspicious lol but turns out he's...dunce

 

[JelF547]

I've been so invested in renpy games I always get bamboozled whenever I play proper visual novel games with much more advanced programming

That is to say...Sel can't program for shit

The magic of renpy is that you can make a good game with zero coding skills. Sel's code is a complete mess, yes

 

[Hario1225]

The magic of renpy is that you can make a good game with zero coding skills. Sel's code is a complete mess, yes

I actually have my own game but I abandoned it right before pandemic (cuz of college).
Although I'll probably never tell a soul its name lol I barely have any experience with game engines at that time.

 

[crustlord12]

Been trying to pinpoint Sel's alt for the last couple of months, gonna lay the results here once I got it

We're all actually Sel's alts, except for you

 

[Bingoogus]

Heh. Old habits. This isn't the only place I fucking hang out, shithead. (And I mean that lovingly.)

Awww shucks, love ya too dickhead.

 

[LoveRedHairedGirl]

The Ami being dead and being a premonition/ghost is plausible. But if the Ami is Maya and Sensei's estranged daughter theory turns out to be true I will break into the nearest animal shelter, cover myself in peanut butter, have the the animals lick said peanut butter off my naked body record it and post on here.

I will remember it.

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[Antosha]

We're all actually Sel's alts, except for you

Shhhhhhhhh! I'm we're you're not supposed to tell!

Awww shucks, love ya too dickhead.

The magic of renpy is that you can make a good game with zero coding skills. Sel's code is a complete mess, yes

I mean, it isn't even the code, exactly, though he's got so many one-shot variables — it's the whole idea of game design that he seems to have completely decided not to worry about. His whole concept of user experience and logical event progression seems to be "poke around randomly for hours, clicking on buttons until something somehow works."

I mean, it does make me wonder if his non-interactive writing ignores pacing and plot progression as badly as his game does. Or maybe, as others have suggested, he's just trolling us and this random walk approach is somehow an experience he thinks communicates... something.

 

[somedoodwhogames]

That being said, his idea of engaging gameplay within the constraints of the Renpy engine is still pretty fucking dumb. I just attribute this to him being a chaotic genius of sorts, to put it mildly.

The echo chamber of psychophants (misspelling intentional) praising Sensei Quest on discord and calling it "fun" makes me even more pessimistic about the survival of the human species.

Dude can write, though. I am way too invested in the emotional and sexual life of a predatory teacher, his harem of broken teenagers, and supernatural beings that may not exist outside of a constructed reality.

 

[barglenarglezous]

I mean, it does make me wonder if his non-interactive writing ignores pacing and plot progression as badly as his game does. Or maybe, as others have suggested, he's just trolling us and this random walk approach is somehow an experience he thinks communicates... something.

It communicates exactly what he wants it to -- his contempt for us, the player.

Seriously, read through all the narration in the game through that lens and the contempt becomes bright as day.

 

[spam753]

I've played version 0.36 last und updated to 0.44 yesterday and I'm stuck now. Even the guide mod doesn't help.

Sensei is depressed at home and only wants to visit a couple of places (Archery, Koi Café, Library, Pool, Bar, Cathedral) and call a couple of people (Ayane, Kaori, Niki, Nodoka, Rin, Touka, Tsubase).

I can't trigger any further events and don't know how to get out of this loop.

 

[JelF547]

I can't trigger any further events and don't know how to get out of this loop.

Just skip days

 

[Deleted member 4389531]

I've played version 0.36 last und updated to 0.44 yesterday and I'm stuck now. Even the guide mod doesn't help.

Sensei is depressed at home and only wants to visit a couple of places (Archery, Koi Café, Library, Pool, Bar, Cathedral) and call a couple of people (Ayane, Kaori, Niki, Nodoka, Rin, Touka, Tsubase).

I can't trigger any further events and don't know how to get out of this loop.

This is the intended experience... DEPRESSION IS FUCKED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! How do we get out of it??????????????

 

[spam753]

Just skip days

thanks. I "tried" that too, but I'm 60 120 200 days in and thought that this should be enough, guess I have to suffer longer