Ren'Py Lessons in Love [v0.49.0] [Selebus]

[Xiondingens]

Tbh, there is a lot implied, nothing of that must include them actually have sex with her. Personally i did interpret it as them doing a lot of bad stuff to her, a gangrape wasnt part of it in my mind now that i read it again.

She spent 3 weeks at a hospital and after that no one bullied her again.

But this here might be the most unrealistic part of the whole story.

 

[Moonflare]

Tbh, there is a lot implied, nothing of that must include them actually have sex with her. Personally i did interpret it as them doing a lot of bad stuff to her, a gangrape wasnt part of it in my mind now that i read it again.
But this here might be the most unrealistic part of the whole story.

Selebus was sparing you, there isn't much else that could go between writing on a bound naked woman, and dousing her body with boiling water. "I'll spare you the middle", what else could they have done that she feels she should spare Akira with? Pretty clear that they raped her imo. If they hadn't, she would have just continued to the boiling water, there'd be nothing to skip.

I agree with it being unrealistic, it was an L for Selebus there. While it is understandable that she didn't want to keep talking about it, it is a logical step for Akira to ask about the fate of the criminals. Why setup the story by telling us that the dude was the son of the mayor (and thus would likely be able to bend the law)? Why include the whole brother angle (if not to mention what it did to her family dynamic after it)? I don't know, it just doesn't sit right with me. The whole thing came out of nowhere, introduced all of these characters and dynamics, and then it just gets shoved away in order to let Imani get eaten.

I suppose it's fine? I mean, I get why Akira moved away from the conversation and instead focused on dealing with the present trauma instead. But I'm not Akira, if I was in his position I might have done the same thing. But for someone reading the story, I'd like to have a conclusion to what was presented to me, even more so when it's that dramatic.

 

[Xiondingens]

"I'll spare you the middle", what else could they have done that she feels she should spare Akira with?

A lot, if you cant think of it then i envy you and leave it at that.

I agree with it being unrealistic, it was an L for Selebus there.

You know, i dont even think it was an L for Selebus. I see it here more as her been a bit of a unreliable narrator. Like you said, it is easy to believe she wouldnt want to keep talking about it after the big bomb was dropped.

But for someone reading the story, I'd like to have a conclusion to what was presented to me, even more so when it's that dramatic.

Hm, so wouldnt that mean you would like Sel to pick up the story again?

 

[Moonflare]

A lot, if you cant think of it then i envy you and leave it at that.

You know, i dont even think it was an L for Selebus. I see it here more as her been a bit of a unreliable narrator. Like you said, it is easy to believe she wouldnt want to keep talking about it after the big bomb was dropped.
Hm, so wouldnt that mean you would like Sel to pick up the story again?

I'd rather you shared with the class, because as I recall the general idea is that she was raped. If you have a better guess, please go ahead.

And regarding wanting Selebus to pick it up, not really. He already spent his time with it once, I don't read LiL because of Imani. Events for each update are limited, I'd much rather he focused on other stuff, especially after a reset.

 

[aramaug]

Most agreed upon theory for a while, and especially during the last few updates, is that it was Himawari.

Overall tone, being from the future, having to put Akira through pain for a greater purpose, wanting to create a better world, guiding him, having to bend the rules to get her way when she can (rather than just being able to do stuff) - it's not 100% yet, but it is the most agreeable one.

If not Himawari, then one of the Narrators, either Maya or Ami (mind you, not our Maya or Ami, but their narrator counterparts - which have not been confirmed yet, although Narrator Ami is almost confirmed by now).

Based on what we learned in the last update, I don't think it's possible for Himawari to be the game's first narrator.

As you pointed out before, we know that Himawari is the narrator of "What We'll See When We Get There" because she refers to herself as a flower that follows the sun, i.e. a sunflower.

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She tells us stuff about her personal life.

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She's actively growing, she lives in another world with her mom but her dad is gone, and she commutes to work at what I can only assume is the time travel factory. The most important part here is that outside of her appearance in Kumon-mi she's living the life of a normal teenage girl; she's not caught in a time loop, she's not an unaging supernatural entity, etc.

That's in contrast to what the narrator of "Every Day I Grow Some More" tells us about themselves:

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The narrator has been trapped in the dark and very lonely for an indeterminate but probably extremely long period of time and has only been able to return to the light due to being assigned as Sensei's narrator. I don't see how this can be the same character as a fifteen-year-old girl growing up with her mother in another world.

 

[Moonflare]

Based on what we learned in the last update, I don't think it's possible for Himawari to be the game's first narrator.

As you pointed out before, we know that Himawari is the narrator of "What We'll See When We Get There" because she refers to herself as a flower that follows the sun, i.e. a sunflower.

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She tells us stuff about her personal life.

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She's actively growing, she lives in another world with her mom but her dad is gone, and she commutes to work at what I can only assume is the time travel factory. The most important part here is that outside of her appearance in Kumon-mi she's living the life of a normal teenage girl; she's not caught in a time loop, she's not an unaging supernatural entity, etc.

That's in contrast to what the narrator of "Every Day I Grow Some More" tells us about themselves:

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The narrator has been trapped in the dark and very lonely for an indeterminate but probably extremely long period of time and has only been able to return to the light due to being assigned as Sensei's narrator. I don't see how this can be the same character as a fifteen-year-old girl growing up with her mother in another world.

Do you think it's more likely that the first narrator is either Pareidolia or someone at the bottom of the well than that it's the Himawari that's within the cycles? Because there would be a Himawari outside of the cycles, and one that is at the waiting room (she shows up in the recent update, and it's where she's at in a flash during Ad Meliora). That would fit with the drain, and being unable to leave.

There is also the narrator from "Where the trees live", since "they" are the ones that send nao-chan, and they say they're speaking to him as people that are living in the same timeline as him, not from the future. It's either we have two Himawaris that narrate (one from the future and one from within the cycles), or the first narrator is narrating from the abyss? Which would make them either Pareidolia, Sekai or some version of Maya.

 

[shmurfer]

Officially Himawari Approved

 

[Fire Lord Zuko]

Spoiler: "Maybe Ami had a point."

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[SlidingSubject]

It's either we have two Himawaris that narrate (one from the future and one from within the cycles), or the first narrator is narrating from the abyss? Which would make them either Pareidolia, Sekai or some version of Maya.

You could make the case that Himawari does have some sort of 9 to 5 time travel job, which is where she appears, and at some point in her relative future she fell into the well, then later on she was picked up by Akira, and saved him in the prologue.
Or, it could also be that whatever Akira picked from the well wanted to have its cake and eat it too, so it manifested Maya while also still remaining a god somehow, which would kinda explain The Scary Room.

 

[alteros]

Aw man, Rin's scene with that arcade date is so damn cute. Might even put Rin over Ayane or Ami but I'm still not very far in at this point.

 

[LoveRedHairedGirl]

Spoiler: "Maybe Ami had a point."

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Chika to her knife: "Maybe you've been my best friend all along."

 

[Bingoogus]

Spoiler: "Maybe Ami had a point."

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I love this, and i loved your previous work, do you want to do a semi-regular skit? Cause i am 100% interested in your work and if you ever wanted to make a game, this is great practice obviously, though i think you're already good enough to go that route... point is, you made me laugh my ass off twice now, please make more!

 

[Fire Lord Zuko]

I love this, and i loved your previous work, do you want to do a semi-regular skit? Cause i am 100% interested in your work and if you ever wanted to make a game, this is great practice obviously, though i think you're already good enough to go that route... point is, you made me laugh my ass off twice now, please make more!

Thanks so much! Glad you like them.

Truthfully, the thought of making a game of my own has crossed my mind. As someone who enjoys writing, I think it’d be cool to see how something like that would develop.

The only thing really holding me back from it is how big a commitment it would be. Real life can keep me pretty busy sometimes too.

I won’t say it’s impossible, but for now anyway, I’m more than content putting together fun KK renders as a hobby.

As soon as an idea strikes me, you can definitely expect more of these. It makes for a great way to kill time in between LiL updates.

 

[LoveRedHairedGirl]

Thanks so much! Glad you like them.

Truthfully, the thought of making a game of my own has crossed my mind. As someone who enjoys writing, I think it’d be cool to see how something like that would develop.

The only thing really holding me back from it is how big a commitment it would be. Real life can keep me pretty busy sometimes too.

I won’t say it’s impossible, but for now anyway, I’m more than content putting together fun KK renders as a hobby.

As soon as an idea strikes me, you can definitely expect more of these. It makes for a great way to kill time in between LiL updates.

It is time for another gay sensei game. But he should be the straightest man alive with class full of boys.

 

[Budoop]

We're past "Adventures of the huggy boy" and are now on "Adventures of the gay Sensei".

 

[Fire Lord Zuko]

We're past "Adventures of the huggy boy" and are now on "Adventures of the gay Sensei".

Spoiler: Cumming soon

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[Bingoogus]

It is time for another gay sensei game. But he should be the straightest man alive with class full of boys.

That would actually be a pretty funny happy scene, Akira transported to a world where all the girls are swapped for boys and they're all still horny for him, but he's straight...

 

[LessonsInDissonance]

I'd rather you shared with the class, because as I recall the general idea is that she was raped. If you have a better guess, please go ahead.

And regarding wanting Selebus to pick it up, not really. He already spent his time with it once, I don't read LiL because of Imani. Events for each update are limited, I'd much rather he focused on other stuff, especially after a reset.

 

[LoveRedHairedGirl]

That would actually be a pretty funny happy scene, Akira transported to a world where all the girls are swapped for boys and they're all still horny for him, but he's straight...

Maybe that's THE dark route? Because Akira's dark (black) hole is gonna be destroyed over and over?

 

[daagagsdgd]

I guess my previous comment on Niki was somehow neglected? Shouldn't reply on night. Anyway I'm inclined to reiterate it since I'd like to hear your thoughts.

So, in Ad Meliora main event, we met Himawari The girl with blue eyes again pretending to be Sana. And after that she tried to warn us that perhaps not everyone Akira encountered is real. Which brought me to some thoughts, especially considering she pointed out two people share strong connecting with Akira's past.

Spoiler: Ami and Niki

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And truth to be told, to some extent, I didn't believe anyone from Akira's past to be "real" from scratch, with exception of Maya (only I believe that Ami is Maya?). Neither is sister in law of Akira called Sekai in reality as some pot plant said in the beach. I mean it's obvious that Sekai—World is not a common name on anyone.

The authenticity of Niki is further questioned when I surprisingly stumbled upon a line with similiar ending in Hand of God where Yasu posessed by Hope Pareidolia finally lost all his patience and ranted mockery on all hypocrisy Akira ever did.

Spoiler: YOU are the root of all evil

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Niki also gave me a vibe of surplus, something too dreamy. And Akira's past, to sum up, is a story of endless fake substitutes trying to cover his holes. That's why I always find it hard to treat Noriko or Niki as essential as Ami or Maya.