Ren'Py Lessons in Love [v0.49.0] [Selebus]

[barglenarglezous]

Thank you this has been helpful, do i need to worry about DRM for the game itself too or is possible flags later down the line it?

Right now, the way the DRM works is that when you load the game, it checks to see if you have the care packages installed, and if you do, it queries a database to see if your copy of the care package is "legit" or not. If not, saves go bye-bye. If yes, nothing happens and the game runs as normal.

It has false-negatived people before. At least one subscriber who downloaded the packages directly from Sel lost his saves, so the code isn't perfect, but if you don't have the care packages in the game folders, you should be fine. At the moment, that's all it does.

Also, Sel is not a skilled coder, so the DRM was outsourced to someone else. Since he likes to fly solo as much as possible, I doubt it will be changed significantly, but there's always a chance he'll get fed up with us existing again and try something. But as of this writing, the DRM only kicks in if the care packages are installed in the game.

 

[Ma1phas]

Maybe it's me but the 'illusion of choice' from the sandbox option does give a lot of (heavy quotation) "Value" to this game.

I generally agree with this idea. Renpy style games could do without the grinding, but having definite stops to do things at the players own pace, or access repeatables, secondary gameplay elements or such adds something to the experience. It's mostly monkey brain logic, but the illusion of choice makes it still feel somewhat like a game, rather than just reading.

LiL is probably one of the worst examples for it, though. No hints, many events obscurely hidden, a huge number of them only trigger on specific days, grinding for point requirements to start them rather than just click to start the next part, no secondary gameplay elements other than the repeatables which only get variation maybe once per chapter. And the ever present concern that the next event will lock you into a long chain with an obnoxious puzzle.
I recall someone referring to LiL's gameplay loop as hostile, which I think is pretty accurate.

 

[aramaug]

December 28 is the day we assume the resets started/the world "ended".

I don't remember seeing an argument for this, can you explain or point me to a post that goes into more detail?

For what it's worth, the name of the slumber party event is misleading. The party itself and the reset happen on the night of Dec 30.

Spoiler: December 28, 2020 (Clay & Clockwork)

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[Antosha]

Sana has social anxiety.

Karin is fine talking about romance, but not sex, and she's NOT fine talking Romance with/about Akira, specifically, because she's infatuated with him.

This got me thinking about Sana’s anxiety. Specifically, how her unbelievably high, wildly kinky libido combined with her bisexuality must make every interaction agonizing.

And THAT got me thinking about who was the lust queen of LiL. Which of the ladies is actually most controlled by desire?

And THAT got me thinking:

Spoiler: Antosha’s LiL libido ranking

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Obviously, all of those are up for debate. Thoughts?

 

[DeanNoriko]

This got me thinking about Sana’s anxiety. Specifically, how her unbelievably high, wildly kinky libido combined with her bisexuality must make every interaction agonizing.

And THAT got me thinking about who was the lust queen of LiL. Which of the ladies is actually most controlled by desire?

And THAT got me thinking:

Spoiler: Antosha’s LiL libido ranking

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Obviously, all of those are up for debate. Thoughts?

Interesting idea. I mostly agree with your takes, with a few exceptions.

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[fdsasdf_p]

December 28 is the day we assume the resets started/the world "ended". And from the newspapers on the windows, it might had to do with some sort of disaster happening.

As exciting as it sounds, the resident buzzkill here must inform you that the newspaper there is a school infirmary bulletin, providing information and guideline regarding norovirus-induced infectious diarrhea (not even news about a recent outburst; that's just some routine educational information during appropriate seasons). This has to be one of the preexisting assets. If Selly really used it to represent something like an apocalypse newspaper, it's too hilarious of an idea for people that can read that prop, implying the world is coming to an end due to mass shitting.

My guess is that this is a similar presentation seen in Meant to Be, where Kumon-mi is undergoing some procedures during a reset. Thus it's only for indicating the world outside now isn't normal, and the content of those bulletins is of no significance.

Spoiler: Meant to Be

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[lolzmandude]

I'm... not sure if I'm happy with that??? This chapter has me extra scared and I'm only getting more and more terrified of chapter 4 and I feel like I'm still a few hours away from that...

 

[lolzmandude]

Ami is very scary : )

Spoiler: Ami scares me and here's many reasons why

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[lolzmandude]

aaaaaaand only an event or two later Ami got WAY FUCKING SCARIER THANK YOU MAYA FOR THAT

 

[TBone9]

Spoiler: I couldn't think of a title

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For a title, how about: "There is only one correct answer."

 

[Antosha]

Interesting idea. I mostly agree with your takes, with a few exceptions.

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All valid points.

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[TBone9]

implying the world is coming to an end due to mass shitting.

Didn't work out too well for Elvis, at least.

 

[fasoaga]

I want to ask a question about Maya.

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[barglenarglezous]

I want to ask a question about Maya.

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She'd had the sense that she was going to get reset for the last two resets. I think she finally realized it was going ot happen for sure and opted to go out with a bang.

 

[Waifulover359]

I think when she got to the roof, the process of erasing her memories started, she realized this and just took the opportunity to jump on Sensei.

 

[daagagsdgd]

I reached the half of second chapter on my first replay and this time im actually reading the "boring" characters instead of skipping them. And to be honest im suprised how some of the boring characters got interesting and cute, while others still meh to me.

Futaba:
At my first playthrough i just take a look at Futaba and said, "Yeah fat girl with giant tits have insecurities" and never look at her again. This time i think she is one of the cutest girls. Like everytime i see her on the screen i just wanna hug or pet her head. And get sad when sensei uses her as a fleshlight and disregards her.

Karin:
Overly shy around boys, we already have Sana, what is the point of her was the first question i asked when Karin was introduced before pressing ctrl to skip her. Now she is still not my fav girl but not that boring either.


Uta and Noriko:
At the start of my replay i though i would start to like these girls. But i was suprised i find myself bored again. These two are tiring. Their overflowing energy doesn't reach to me, is it because there are lots of hyper active quirky girls introduced before them or something else but i just can't like them. Only reason i tolerate Noriko is there is chance sensei remembers something or event can connect to Maya and Niki.

Finally find my fella appreciating kindness of Futaba. It's kinda ironic that most people would call "boring" with prejudice instead. The story will remind us again and again how undeserving we are of having her in this horrible and beautiful world. It's both frustrating and relieving to see her not involve in main plot so much since it's always based on infinite chaos and sadness.

I think Sensei has a soft spot for fragile girls. He's put much effort (at least more than that of Makoto and Ayane at first for example) in bonding and fixing girls like Rin or Futaba. To put it more general, he likes to destroy what is complete and fix what is broken. Therefore he will stuck in betwixt forever.

 

[Fake Rabi ~]

Ami is very scary : )

Spoiler: Ami scares me and here's many reasons why

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ofc AMI is scary, that's the reason you should pick Amy instead...

 

[Antosha]

She'd had the sense that she was going to get reset for the last two resets. I think she finally realized it was going ot happen for sure and opted to go out with a bang.

Literally.

Ba-dum-bum.

 

[VoidExile]

Day 16 character count 10852. It's that time again, I took care of that game that was distracting me. It's surprising how unimmersed(or something) you get in a story when you are distracted. I will most likely start the second chapter tomorrow.

Spoiler: Day 262-283, some reactions, thoughts and questions

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Some slight changes but nothing major.

Spoiler: Tierlist

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[elricsecret]

ffs can mc stop getting raped by girls half of his size?
I dont think anybody can be this pathetic.
selebus pls stop self inserting yourself to main character