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Some way to display them would be nice but mixing them would fuck things up more than it'd help. Every character's current events appear in [name]events.rpy or in the relevant dorm(2)events.rpy based on where you start the event. Forcing them to mix means having to figure out which script / inappropriatecontent / chap / chap(x)generics.rpy things could be in. Also Ami would basically have every event in her list.
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Moonflare
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How dare you, I'll have you know that my old person fixation on it is charming!We really need an eye roll reaction just for all the posts that Moonflare manages to shoehorn "Himawari's name is Ami" into. And I'm saying that as the theory's second-biggest proponent!
On Otoha, by replaying I got to reevaluate her somewhat, and while I certainly didn't grow to like her or anything - I can understand her better.
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LessonsInDissonance
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Not gonna lie Otoha's ass completely wiped my memory of anything negative she did in the past
Moonflare
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oh, how convenient that I'm going through one of them right now:
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Uhhh, Yasu makes all the other students seem normal in comparison... There is something seriously wrong with this girl and I'm not entirely convinced she's even human...
Does anyone have any new theories about Kyoto? As of 0.45 it seems likely that there were no plotholes/memory fuckery, and that it was simply a different timeline.
But i honestly kind of hate that, it feels like a copout answer and it significantly detracts from the scenes impact, since it's just something that happened to a different sensei with a different Sekai in a different world, by extension that also means that any information presented is meaningless, Sekai seems far more humane and kind in the flashback, but, again, that is not "our" Sekai, who knows just how different she and her relationship with Akira is in this world.
But i honestly kind of hate that, it feels like a copout answer and it significantly detracts from the scenes impact, since it's just something that happened to a different sensei with a different Sekai in a different world, by extension that also means that any information presented is meaningless, Sekai seems far more humane and kind in the flashback, but, again, that is not "our" Sekai, who knows just how different she and her relationship with Akira is in this world.
I'm still caught on how Niki is repeating lines from it 1:1. If Niki and Seki are separate entities, why is Niki echoing speech she never heard? If they're the same entity, who came first, Niki or Sekai? If they're both real but Sensei is just hallucinating old conversations, uh... What the fuck else is going on? Etc. This feels like one of those essential things.
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Echoing dialogue like this (different characters saying the same lines 1:1) is something I've been paying a lot of attention to lately and why I'm so inclined to think of ideas in which some/all of the characters are not-real entities.
While I'm discussing this again, I shall also point out an instance of visual echoing:
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Unless there are better examples, I think you give this more importance than it's worth, the most likely explanation is that it is simply a way for Selebus to imply that Niki is trying to take Sekai's place in sensei's and Amy's heart, there is probably no in universe reason for the repetition.
Maybe. That's a HUGE disaster scenario, though. First it would be putting plot above character (e.g. literally making what characters say a tool of the plot rather than what they would most naturally say), two it would be an indication of outright laziness (frequently reusing dialogue instead of coming up with new dialogue which would express a similar idea without repetition), and three, it would be a shallow red herring in a game which otherwise encourages/demands one to think about perception deeply. Among other things. If indeed there is no in-universe reason then that would be a pretty big knock on the game in my opinion, though perhaps I'm exaggerating. It's definitely the case that Niki has a special relationship with Sekai and is trying to 'take her place,' as indicated by recent updates, but I hope that would point to Sensei projecting Sekai onto Niki rather than Niki arbitrarily mirroring things Sekai said with no knowledge of her having said them.
I strongly disagree, characters repeating sentences said by others (even unintentionally), is a relatively common writing tool to establish commonality, it is only a problem when it's way too specific and holds no narrative relevance. What you used as an example is a sentence generic enough that it's easy to imagine anyone using it, and the narrative significance was already established.
A far better example of a problematic scenario is Sekai (Kyoto) and Sara (I think her last scene), the similar framing of the shot, identical facial expressions and the similar theme all work to not simplify imply commonality but to grab you by your ears and scream the message of the scene at you.
If the first example works as a subtle way to convey meaning and as such works on its own, the second example is so blatant that there has to be something more to it, some in universe explanation, otherwise it is simply a sloppily written scene.
LessonsInDissonance
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I choose to forgive and turn the other cheek.
You forgave Yumi for what she did to Futaba didn't you?
Just to confirm what we already knew, in the v46-bugs-and-errors channel of the LiL discord they mention that the main bugs present are:
* Several invite events still drop you at the Chapter 3 hub. Proposed solution: visit the Maid Cafe, it has a proper exit condition.
* People who refused Tsukasa in Failsafe erroneously get the tsukasacurious flag. No solution beyond waiting for the autopatch.rpy in the next release.
* Post-Nut Clarity should have a replay end trigger for the hidden scene, and should lift the mayablock flag for the normal scene. Also to be resolved next release.
* Even with 50 Kirin lust, the new outfits are not properly unlocking, due to a code mismatch between unlockables.rpy and mathhomework.rpy.
* There's no trigger to cut off the buzzing noise when finishing a replay of Solar Eclipse, so the sound continues out of the replay
* Several invite events still drop you at the Chapter 3 hub. Proposed solution: visit the Maid Cafe, it has a proper exit condition.
* People who refused Tsukasa in Failsafe erroneously get the tsukasacurious flag. No solution beyond waiting for the autopatch.rpy in the next release.
* Post-Nut Clarity should have a replay end trigger for the hidden scene, and should lift the mayablock flag for the normal scene. Also to be resolved next release.
* Even with 50 Kirin lust, the new outfits are not properly unlocking, due to a code mismatch between unlockables.rpy and mathhomework.rpy.
* There's no trigger to cut off the buzzing noise when finishing a replay of Solar Eclipse, so the sound continues out of the replay
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No? She's a shitty person, and yet I can respect and even love a shitty person, as long as being shitty isn't all they are. Yumi bullying Futaba is reprehensible and yet this isn't her whole character. Yumi is also the girl being sexually assaulted (multiple times), and neglected and put into toxic conditions, and trying her best to change and cope with what's thrown at her.
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I believe if any of Tsukioka sisters get the D first, then the second sister is going to do that as soon as possible just to live her name as Tsukioka: Touka just will never take the fact that her lil sister get the d faster than her, while Tsukasa will have the d just because Touka did it, so she'll want to prove she is the Tsukioka too.
Day 25 character count 11319.
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