Ren'Py Lessons in Love [v0.49.0] [Selebus]

[Antosha]

Guys.
Come closer.

I caught up on the latest update and gathered all my notes.
I am on full nodaka mode.
I took a day off from work just for this.
I solved it.

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Explaining terminal 22-23-24.
Akira is Nozomu in "real" world(%100),
Sunflower baby with "T" eyes.. Himawari.
Explaining EVERYTHING
but most importantly, explaining why Ayane kills janitors! (seriously)
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Be ready for a long ride.

I put all of them under one spoiler tag because they need to be read in order to make sense.

Spoiler

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Spoiler: read this second , I forgot to explain bad ending

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And Selebus if you are reading, I really enjoyed the game very much.
Please don't assassinate me for revealing the secrets


I still wanted to explain

How the world of 0.44 and 0.46 aren't same world.
0.44 world factory resetted. 0.46 is after many loops. A same world where akira never fought black orb in the end of sensei quest.
Hope doesnt save ayane and yumi. and makato just pops.

And how new narrator is sekai. Trojan Nao freed sekai from 3 gods control now she is taking over.

And why tsubasa pushing his girls to akira, tsubasa's foursome stories are real under control of pareidolia.
Malvin(pareidolia) was feeding spork(hope) via getting tsubasa gangbanged.
she is trying to save her daughters from same fate.

And many more but I have reached the photo upload limit and I doubt anybody read..
so maybe another day.
I need a nap before I start talking to plants.
Peace out, homies.

So much here, and I would need to think about it for a bit—but the interesting big-picture thing that really interested me was your thoughts on the terminals.

We’ve been largely assuming that the terminals are sequential, representing the generations in the game — so 22 is the parents (Yuu, Miu, etc.), 23 is the present group, and 24 is the next generation (Himawari) — you’ve suggested that the terminals are actually layers of reality. I love givemeabeer ’s take, that they’re like shells in a computer system—that the top shell (in your theory, terminal 24, right?) is so to say the objective reality of the game, while t23 is the “user interface,” the part of the computer system we interact with, while each layer above that (that is, the lower numbered terminals) is another layer of abstraction, resting inside the one above it.

So by that thinking, would, say, the safe room sequence with adult Sana, be a memory from reality (t25)? It’s pretty hallucinatory — so our hero (Akira/Sensei/Nozomu) is dealing with a psychotic break?

 

[Budoop]

Guys.
Come closer.

I caught up on the latest update and gathered all my notes.
I am on full nodaka mode.
I took a day off from work just for this.
I solved it.

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Explaining terminal 22-23-24.
Akira is Nozomu in "real" world(%100),
Sunflower baby with "T" eyes.. Himawari.
Explaining EVERYTHING
but most importantly, explaining why Ayane kills janitors! (seriously)
----------------------------------
Be ready for a long ride.

I put all of them under one spoiler tag because they need to be read in order to make sense.

Spoiler

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Spoiler: read this second , I forgot to explain bad ending

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And Selebus if you are reading, I really enjoyed the game very much.
Please don't assassinate me for revealing the secrets


I still wanted to explain

How the world of 0.44 and 0.46 aren't same world.
0.44 world factory resetted. 0.46 is after many loops. A same world where akira never fought black orb in the end of sensei quest.
Hope doesnt save ayane and yumi. and makato just pops.

And how new narrator is sekai. Trojan Nao freed sekai from 3 gods control now she is taking over.

And why tsubasa pushing his girls to akira, tsubasa's foursome stories are real under control of pareidolia.
Malvin(pareidolia) was feeding spork(hope) via getting tsubasa gangbanged.
she is trying to save her daughters from same fate.

And many more but I have reached the photo upload limit and I doubt anybody read..
so maybe another day.
I need a nap before I start talking to plants.
Peace out, homies.

This is an excellently put together theory with some really good backing.
I don't recall seeing it said either but your theories got very hand in hand with the gods "titles" too, it is likely they represent something that Akira / Nozu did not like about themselves, traits he thought he needed to be fixed. For example: The callous god, and even given the context of who he lost, likely also "Hope" as it would be -- to him, a weakness.

This also suggests that as each god handles a respective season, each season is dedicated to trying to "fix" a part of him he did not like.

 

[Detective Dc345]

I am just innocent and horny.

Chika was too and look at her now

 

[Moonflare]

Guys.
Come closer.

I caught up on the latest update and gathered all my notes.
I am on full nodaka mode.
I took a day off from work just for this.
I solved it.

----------------------------------
Explaining terminal 22-23-24.
Akira is Nozomu in "real" world(%100),
Sunflower baby with "T" eyes.. Himawari.
Explaining EVERYTHING
but most importantly, explaining why Ayane kills janitors! (seriously)
----------------------------------
Be ready for a long ride.

I put all of them under one spoiler tag because they need to be read in order to make sense.

Spoiler

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Spoiler: read this second , I forgot to explain bad ending

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And Selebus if you are reading, I really enjoyed the game very much.
Please don't assassinate me for revealing the secrets


I still wanted to explain

How the world of 0.44 and 0.46 aren't same world.
0.44 world factory resetted. 0.46 is after many loops. A same world where akira never fought black orb in the end of sensei quest.
Hope doesnt save ayane and yumi. and makato just pops.

And how new narrator is sekai. Trojan Nao freed sekai from 3 gods control now she is taking over.

And why tsubasa pushing his girls to akira, tsubasa's foursome stories are real under control of pareidolia.
Malvin(pareidolia) was feeding spork(hope) via getting tsubasa gangbanged.
she is trying to save her daughters from same fate.

And many more but I have reached the photo upload limit and I doubt anybody read..
so maybe another day.
I need a nap before I start talking to plants.
Peace out, homies.

Kudos on the effort, but man, what a ride. It's just too long for me to review the whole thing (I have read it though), so I'll give an example:

Spoiler: further thoughts

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I could be wrong, and certainly not everything you said can or should be dismissed, but overall that's my opinion. Pareidolia said it best when he explained that if Akira was stronger, they'd have never even met. And multiple characters tell him that he's a fool to basically just walk around letting whatever "divine" bullshit take hold of him. Things are likely to be simpler than they appear.

 

[Budoop]

Kudos on the effort, but man, what a ride. It's just too long for me to review the whole thing (I have read it though), so I'll give an example:

Spoiler: further thoughts

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I could be wrong, and certainly not everything you said can or should be dismissed, but overall that's my opinion. Pareidolia said it best when he explained that if Akira was stronger, they'd have never even met. And multiple characters tell him that he's a fool to basically just walk around letting whatever "divine" bullshit take hold of him. Things are likely to be simpler than they appear.

I honestly prefer this, it's partially because im not particularly smart but I think there's something nice about mysteries in which not everything is some asinine bullshit, vague foreshadow, or buckets worth of hidden lore.

Sometimes people are just the way they are and it's not a bad thing if Akira is just a fucked up dude normally.

 

[lolzmandude]

alright... here we go typing out my mental breakdown playing this game again

Spoiler: it chrimmas :c

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well... that's the christmas event thing done... back to the usual I suppose...

also side note, how does one get around the game re-setting changes I make with the universal ren'py mod?

 

[elricsecret]

Kudos on the effort, but man, what a ride. It's just too long for me to review the whole thing (I have read it though), so I'll give an example:

Spoiler: further thoughts

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I could be wrong, and certainly not everything you said can or should be dismissed, but overall that's my opinion. Pareidolia said it best when he explained that if Akira was stronger, they'd have never even met. And multiple characters tell him that he's a fool to basically just walk around letting whatever "divine" bullshit take hold of him. Things are likely to be simpler than they appear.

"such as being the son of Yuu, and sibling to Akira"

Akira is not yuu's son.
that is terminal 22.
Terminal 23 is just resembles terminal 22.
Think it as a world based on Akira's subconscious.

And Nozomu is just a character that mirrors the real akira.
Terminal 24's "Real Akira" may not be actually named Nozomu.
Nozomu just based on his real persona.

Are you sure you read it?

When I play all the happy events from perspective of my theory.
they all make %100 sense.
And it's not like there is any other possible explanation.

I literally spoon feed every information. explained like I am talking to a 10 years old.
but some people still makes fun of it lol

I am starting to think you guys are selebus fake accounts that sabotages the theories that come to close to truth xD
thanks for "reading" tho.

selebus is brilliant, story telling is too deep and hard to consume.
I didn't expect most people to understand anyway.

 

[Detective Dc345]

Spoiler: Rin Chika

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[combige]

Guys.
homies.

So, you basically sayin,

Spoiler: that

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[VoidExile]

You seemed to find it funny, didn't know if you were trying to push yourself to race me. Wanted to stop any unnecessary rushing of these important chapters.

I considered it, but don't think I ever pushed myself. I also have another ongoing game in the background that has a time limit unlike this one that I just routinely play. Also I don't think I ever said anything about trying to beat anyone by playing quickly or whatever, nor have I said anything is funny in that regard so I'm not sure what you got that from.

 

[Moonflare]

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All events are complete!

I forgot it was only 18 events (...) crap.

Well, I'm pretty sure we'll see lewds of Touka, not only because of the first title but also because the second one seems like it's a conversation about her losing her virginity with Tsubasa.

Uta also seems to be on that path, but maybe not really sex, although hopefully also, given that they're at the bathhouse.

Yumi will be the highlight for me obviously (likely to include her mom to some extent), and Rika might be interesting with their conversation about Rin, and possibly Rika's logic of "I'll fuck you instead".

Other than those, I'm not really looking forward to anything. Maybe Tsuneyo's will deal with Tojo's revelation and Yasu's foretold next teaparty - but maybe I'm forgetting something to look forward to? Please remind me if so.

 

[Bingoogus]

I didn't expect most people to understand anyway.

Maybe if you spent some time to rewrite it in a coherent and easy to read manner we'd all 'get it'... it reads like one of those deranged homeless people who walk around with shopping carts covered in cardboard with nonsensical conspiracy garbage written all over it... i can see all the ideas you've had but where is the connective tissue? How does this 'truth' connect to that 'fact'?

 

[Octave87]

I was playing this game without the guide and got to over day 1000 before the first reset - it made it so my stats were never in need of grinding but had no idea of the underlying quest placements.

Now I'm stuck at the 3rd reset where it's telling me I have the power to dance but keeps closing the program because I don't type it in. Yet I don't have a place to type it in? Can't see it on any guide or by searching these posts so I must be missing something; any assistance would be appreciated.

 

[elricsecret]

Maybe if you spent some time to rewrite it in a coherent and easy to read manner we'd all 'get it'... it reads like one of those deranged homeless people who walk around with shopping carts covered in cardboard with nonsensical conspiracy garbage written all over it... i can see all the ideas you've had but where is the connective tissue? How does this 'truth' connect to that 'fact'?

it is coherent and easy to read. it is just long.
maybe I should create fake accounts and defend myself from them too.
oh wait. Im not a kid with Fragile ego. nevermind

So, you basically sayin,

Spoiler: that

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"create another world? Another terminal" lol wtf? what is that have anything to do with what I said. terminal 24 already exist. "everything connected"
you know what I wont even bother explaining man
just read

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again. I doubt you can understand anything. but just try anyway

 

[Moonflare]

I was playing this game without the guide and got to over day 1000 before the first reset - it made it so my stats were never in need of grinding but had no idea of the underlying quest placements.

Now I'm stuck at the 3rd reset where it's telling me I have the power to dance but keeps closing the program because I don't type it in. Yet I don't have a place to type it in? Can't see it on any guide or by searching these posts so I must be missing something; any assistance would be appreciated.

I don't understand your question. The 3rd reset is "word of the day", if you choose "grow", it will ask you a bunch of questions, and you should just type them as shown in the puzzle guide:

Spoiler: guide

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Upon answering the final question the game will advance you to "backwards dancing" which is a normal event without any other need for answers.

Please provide more info if there is a problem, especially the name of the event you're having problems with (if not "word of the day").

 

[Bingoogus]

oh wait. Im not a kid with Fragile ego. nevermind

You are definitely a kid with a very fragile ego... but whatever... your post reads like one of these:

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I think it's safe to say that we won't be having any useful dialogue between us, so good luck with your 'everyone is a bot, i am the prophet of truth' nonsense...

 

[jclark1337]

Are you sure you read it?

When I play all the happy events from perspective of my theory.
they all make %100 sense.
And it's not like there is any other possible explanation.

There is quite literally unlimited amount of other possible explanations...Your thoughts on that post are very interesting and you no doubt drew some interesting parallels, but in my honest opinion the "Akira being the same person as Nozomu" theory would really sabotage his character and lessen a lot of the impact of the things that have happened to OUR Akira. That's really the only thing I have a real problem with, everything else seems like it could be possible

I literally spoon feed every information. explained like I am talking to a 10 years old.
but some people still makes fun of it lol

I am starting to think you guys are selebus fake accounts that sabotages the theories that come to close to truth xD
thanks for "reading" tho.

selebus is brilliant, story telling is too deep and hard to consume.
I didn't expect most people to understand anyway.

Everyone has been giving you pretty good sentiments across the board considering your post consisting of such complicated and scattered theorycrafting, idk why you're having such a strong persecution complex at the slightest criticism. It's a good post, not everyone is going to agree with you though. Also you assuming your theory is 100% correct when there is no demonstrable way to prove it is going to rub some people the wrong way (and considering Selebus' own words stating that it's really not as complicated as a lot of people make it.)

Correlation =/= Causation

 

[elricsecret]

You are definitely a kid with a very fragile ego... but whatever... your post reads like one of these:

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I think it's safe to say that we won't be having any useful dialogue between us, so good luck with your 'everyone is a bot, i am the prophet of truth' nonsense...

Did you really say my words back to me? really? You are really smart arent you ahah
anyway.
My post is art.
You see it that way because it requires the ability to think.
Next time, I'll add a picture of boobs to make it more engaging for you.

why is your profile is private tho. what are you hiding? let me take a look.

There is quite literally unlimited amount of other possible explanations

such as? if you say afterlife I will jump from window

 

[givemeabeer]

There is quite literally unlimited amount of other possible explanations...Your thoughts on that post are very interesting and you no doubt drew some interesting parallels, but in my honest opinion the "Akira being the same person as Nozomu" theory would really sabotage his character and lessen a lot of the impact of the things that have happened to OUR Akira. That's really the only thing I have a real problem with, everything else seems like it could be possible



Everyone has been giving you pretty good sentiments across the board considering your post consisting of such complicated and scattered theorycrafting, idk why you're having such a strong persecution complex at the slightest criticism. It's a good post, not everyone is going to agree with you though. Also you assuming your theory is 100% correct when there is no demonstrable way to prove it is going to rub some people the wrong way (and considering Selebus' own words stating that it's really not as complicated as a lot of people make it.)

Correlation =/= Causation

If I may had, no one have the absolute truth here. Except Selebus.
For all we know, the «terminals» may be just a way to picture the thing, like Maya did with her explanation of memory with a HDD. Or a real thing.

Anyway, there's still a lot of mystery in this universe, which is why we're still here talking about it. And waiting for a new release who can answer some of our questions.

At that, we can tell that Selebus create the worst drug ever made. A drug who give you principally a depressing state, with barely some joy, but with a powerful addictive effect.
And, if we need our monthly fix, that's not because we hope for a good trip, but because we seek for answers.

And those answers will only be revealed at the nearly end of the story.

So, yeah, hopeless fellow, let's theorize when our gnarling depression, deep in our belly, creep his way out, devouring everything.

 

[shmurfer]

also side note, how does one get around the game re-setting changes I make with the universal ren'py mod?

Stop rolling back after making them. Every variable state is remembered per text of dialogue that you can roll back to. If you make 100 edits and then roll back to the frame where you made them you irreparably lose all 100 changes. Same thing happens with looking at phone messages except those work outside the normal rollback system so you wouldn't even notice as you roll back to the frame where you checked the photos.

When I play all the happy events from perspective of my theory.
they all make %100 sense.

This is a example of religion the game would be proud of, providing answers to a world they don't otherwise understand without the kind of proof that would convince people to stop questioning it. You're even defending the 'truth' from the 'heathens'

And it's not like there is any other possible explanation.

That just shows a lack of imagination, and that arrogance is costing your reputation.

why is your profile is private tho. what are you hiding? let me take a look.

Probably because people like you are trying to do what you're trying to do.