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It's a suprise from Sel. We dont know what it is yet. It could be either regular Chinami, Teenami, or Adult Chinami. Im leaning towards it being either Adult Chinami or regular Chinami since Yumi also an wizard animation this update. Or it could be Adult Chinami after Forever Young.
I remember there was an event where adult Chinami was a porn star. It was supposed to be traumatic but all I can think was "At least in this timeline we knows she's not dead as a child."
 

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I can only imagine what it will be like when the game ends
I genuinely have theories that some people will be creating mods for this game, alternative events, their own routes and things like that, I don't think some people here will quickly leave the game once it ends, I think many will still create things for the game even after it ends.
 

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I genuinely have theories that some people will be creating mods for this game, alternative events, their own routes and things like that, I don't think some people here will quickly leave the game once it ends, I think many will still create things for the game even after it ends.
Honestly once the game is completed, I kinda want to see if I can program it for to be playable as a video game VN. As it stands rn, it's an amazing story but a horrible horrible grind/slog to go through it. Like the affection grind needed to get to the final chapters alone could be dramatically reworked in order to either fit the narrative more; like you can have trivia events that boost affection more than 1 point each time, or have date events that could give you dozens of points if performed well enough or just by reducing the total requirement amount so that people don't have to go through so much clicking in order to access secret events.

There are some ideas I have in mind to make the grind more bearable but even that requires game design, experience with the renpy engine and time, things I all lack.

The fact that the SenseiQuest and the reset events exist alone prove that you can improve this game's standing by changing how those work, granted I won't know what to do for the ??? events like the ami mall event
 
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Short story.
Yadda yadda purity and innocence. No, seriously.

Honestly once the game is completed, I kinda want to see if I can program it for to be playable as a video game VN. As it stands rn, it's an amazing story but a horrible horrible grind/slog to go through it. Like the affection grind needed to get to the final chapters alone could be dramatically reworked in order to either fit the narrative more; like you can have trivia events that boost affection more than 1 point each time, or have date events that could give you dozens of points if performed well enough or just by reducing the total requirement amount so that people don't have to go through so much clicking in order to access secret events.

There are some ideas I have in mind to make the grind more bearable but even that requires game design, experience with the renpy engine and time, things I all lack.

The fact that the SenseiQuest and the reset events exist alone prove that you can improve this game's standing by changing how those work, granted I won't know what to do for the ??? events like the ami mall event
Going with how the game is, I see two ways.
You can either go the ChäoS;HEĀd NoAH route and make the VN format a "fandisc" that adds a metaplot to the already existing one, and use that to justify the new mechanics.
Or you can add a disclaimer at the beginning that specifies that you're playing the WRONG version of the game, because the affection and lust points are unnecesary now. Still, leave everything that could be avoided as a choice, which would actually make it more like a VN, and maybe add a computer option that tells you what to do if you haven't triggered an event after 7 days.
Either way, as you said, both involve renpy knowledge to at least change or patch Sel's one.
 

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like the ami mall event
Amy*, and that one would be simple, there's 20 locations, make it a simple linear progression, 1>2>3>etc. and adjust for any inconsistencies, of which i don't think there are any, you can backtrack pretty easily in that event but if memory serves, they're just meaningless alternates, you wouldn't miss anything by just showing the initial version of each location.
 
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Yumi is definitely more mature now, but the issue came from Io's lack of maturity, not Yumi's.

During the conversation, Yumi was very respectful and open to Io. It was Io that went full-on "only I'm allowed to have problems" - as if growing up with a junkie mother that abandoned her on and off, and finally abandoned her for good was small potatoes.

Io's a bitch.
Yeah she is a bitch. Only reasons i was look over her being a bitch were:
1- i was expecting something horrible from her past.
2- she was cute.
3- And she was similar to a few people i met in real life.

Io is a word by word misandrist. (No i don't mean misogynist) She had a bad experience with a wo(man). She became wary of wo(men). She started to see every wo(men) as a danger or a monster. She disregard any problem a wo(man) have, either by saying it doesn't really exist or it is nothing compared to her problems.

And she never gets called out for her hate, because there are way bigger problems with the world. So at worst, she gets ignored.

BUT, she is cute and i wanna pat her head.

Now i think about, is there anyone around here who is knowledgeable about psychology, can tell if i'm right or wrong? And maybe profile other girls as well.
 
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Antosha

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Hmm. I think misandrist means someone who hates men, which doesn't sound like Io. She's fond enough of Akira, in spite of all the reasons not to be. So I don't think that's what you mean.

Misanthrope, maybe — someone who just doesn't like people.

But I think the word you might be looking for is gynophobe—someone with an intense (and irrational) fear of women. Mind, hers isn't entirely without cause, but it's definitely not rational.

And yeah: she's cute. :)
 

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Hmm. I think misandrist means someone who hates men, which doesn't sound like Io. She's fond enough of Akira, in spite of all the reasons not to be. So I don't think that's what you mean.

Misanthrope, maybe — someone who just doesn't like people.

But I think the word you might be looking for is gynophobe—someone with an intense (and irrational) fear of women. Mind, hers isn't entirely without cause, but it's definitely not rational.

And yeah: she's cute. :)
I didn't want to mean literally misandrist as hating men. I just wanted to make parallels between real people who acts the same but towards males but doesn't get called out for it so hate cycle feeds in to a anti social behavior.
Like in 2021 i had a junior at work i had to superwise, and everytime she made a mistake was agonizing for me to correct. Like bitch, yeah women got it worse but you need to calculate those numbers again otherwise people gonna freeze.
Biggest plus of working at home was you only need to read the rant, not hear it.
 
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Michael Jackson liked it too. Didn't work out to well for him.
Propofol.

I used to work at a hospital where every time that drug was prescribed I got pinged and had to check to see if it was being used appropriately. It was also a handful of medications where you actually checked to see who was prescribing it. If it wasn't an anesthesiologist you were getting a phone call.

The doctor that killed Jackson was not an anesthesiologist and had no training in the drug's use. He was also using it to "help Jackson sleep" which was pure bat shit insanity. The manslaughter charge was quite warranted.
 

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Have we said what we hope for in this update yet?
Three words: Clown. Yumi. Clussy.
I was asleep for 7 hours, how did the forum start talking about deepthroats in 7 hours???????? God people really do go crazy with no updates
I literally ran out of reactions from all the laugh reacts I threw out. I've never had that happen without an update.
I can only imagine what it will be like when the game ends
I have been coming to this site for years at this point, and over the last 2-3 (?) years specifically for this thread. I genuinely don't know what I'll do with myself. Will this thread just.. die? That's what makes sense. But I've interacted with you all for so many years that it's going to be like when Brooks gets released from prison in the Shawshank Redemption, you know? What will I do???
 

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Going with how the game is, I see two ways.
You can either go the ChäoS;HEĀd NoAH route and make the VN format a "fandisc" that adds a metaplot to the already existing one, and use that to justify the new mechanics.
Or you can add a disclaimer at the beginning that specifies that you're playing the WRONG version of the game, because the affection and lust points are unnecesary now. Still, leave everything that could be avoided as a choice, which would actually make it more like a VN, and maybe add a computer option that tells you what to do if you haven't triggered an event after 7 days.
Either way, as you said, both involve renpy knowledge to at least change or patch Sel's one.
Ideally for the mod I have in mind, I want to keep the story as it is now but make navigating and the grind towards the events more enjoyable in a sense; the idea is to reduce the amount of grinding you'll have to do, assuming you not using cheats or URM to boost numbers, but also make the grind more enjoyable and interactive to deepen the connection a player might have with the character in the game, answering questions about them and Sensei, having conversations with them, small dates and if you really want to get twisted, make those events glitch out from time to time, have them know conversations from the future or the happy events, corrupt the characters and make them insane momentarily or hell you can even make Ami Hiwamari appear in those events from time to time, it might add mystery, intrigue, arouse the curiosity in people to make them more invested in the game and the characters. Later on, you can have this events changed up to reflect the corruption growth the characters have gone through.

But that's only one aspect of improvement you can focus on, as you might also want to improve the menus, the gallery and the navigation of menus; tell me how you're going to find a specific character within a main story event without being absolutely demented dedicated to know them by heart, we can't always have Moonflare, Fdsasdf_p, Shmurder, Barglenarglezous or the other smarter members here remember them for us, I feel like having images or character mentions or maybe even a menu within the character's profile event gallery linking them to an main story event would make remembering events easier and make it more... I don't know the word for it easier to enter the game I guess?

And the difficulty of the dumb reset events oh my fucking god, you can do so much things in order to make the logic puzzles easier while also increasing in difficulty later if you wanted to, I'm not smart, I honestly wouldn't have passed the first reset without the wonderful members here making guides and walkthroughs for my pea-brain. Here's an idea, can't you have the souls/bodies of the previous Senseis stuck in the same room as they giving you small hints and insights of what events you need to review or what information you'll need to pass the lock and as you go on, since the Senseis get filtered out for being dumb as me, you get fewer Senseis to gives you hints as the loops go on and go on but you'll grow as player and be able to remember important information that might come up later in a loop event. FUCK anything in game that could give you hints or guidance to complete the event, don't we have gods whisper insane things in our heads during those events? Why don't you make them into a gameplay mechanic, they give you hints but in a insane/lunatic type of way making you have to think as fucked as the gods themselves and give you a point of reference for later events to understand their rumblings and insane speeches without having to decode them too deeply.

You can also improve on the lust events by making them animated but I'm not really sure if that'll work to interest players.

Cckerberos has already done a wonderful hint mod on what to do to progress the game and what events will lock out content so honestly there's no need for improvement on that aspect.

Sorry for the rumble everyone.



Amy*, and that one would be simple, there's 20 locations, make it a simple linear progression, 1>2>3>etc. and adjust for any inconsistencies, of which i don't think there are any, you can backtrack pretty easily in that event but if memory serves, they're just meaningless alternates, you wouldn't miss anything by just showing the initial version of each location.
Probably the easiest solution and the one I would probably use to streamline the event, even if it takes control away from the player, It'll make it easier just go through the event and seeing all the unique dialogue before you exit the event, the only real issue is a lot of reading in a weird atmosphere but I assume if you're already in this deep into the game, it would be normal to have events like this.
 
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