So you would agree there is not even any point in the story for her behaviour?You say this like Futaba has had ANY relevance in the story recently other than her TSS.
Pedro4545454
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I want to share a slightly controversial opinion that I saw a lot of people ignoring or denying. The girls went there and stayed there of their own free will. Nodoka didn't force any of them. She invited them. The girls knew what was going to happen and it was their choice to stay there even after Ami's revelation. Many are angry with Nodoka, as if she forced the girls to stay there with some kind of blackmail or something, even though they went there of their own free will. They chose to do so, so Nodoka is not to blame for this.
It's the same thing: a murderer gives you a gun and says that you can kill whoever you hate and no one will ever know. If you don't do it, nothing will happen to you. If you go there and kill them, it's entirely your fault, not the murderer's. It's the same with Nodoka. She only invited them. The girls went and stayed there and did things because they wanted to. So I don't understand this hate she's receiving.
It's the same thing: a murderer gives you a gun and says that you can kill whoever you hate and no one will ever know. If you don't do it, nothing will happen to you. If you go there and kill them, it's entirely your fault, not the murderer's. It's the same with Nodoka. She only invited them. The girls went and stayed there and did things because they wanted to. So I don't understand this hate she's receiving.
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Her spinelessness just means that she doesn't have to forgive her to start acting like the situation is resolved, she's a coward, the more time goes on the less she will fight it. If you really want to measure how much she's 'forgiven' Nodoka, look to her interacting with her solo... we don't see that happening at all do we? Wonder why...
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I don't even think is controversial, that's literally the way it is and how it happened.
Pedro4545454
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The controversial thing was me wanting to say unpopular, but my translator translated it wrong
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No one ignoring or denying it. It's just Nodoka is taking the spotlights of hate, as always. It's NODOKAthon, not AMIthon/AYANEthon/MIKUthon/KIRINthon/SANAthon/MOLLYthon. Most of us told something about some of these girls.
Ami is just Ami, so no one is really surprised or shocked by her actions.
Ayane is accepting this shit because she is so fucking exhausted by living in the loops for so long already. But it's obvious she is on her breaking point.
Miku is the complete idiot. And she never was a brightest tool in the shed from the beginning. But right now she is extremely idiotic self. The best Miku events are the very old Christmas ones, when the second school disappeared. Her events peaked back then. Alas, right now she's one-dimensional character. I dislike her.
Kirin. She's the slut, the whore, yeah. BUT. She is one of the two girls (she and Ayane) who were against at least some of Nodoka's and other girls' actions. But she's a whore, so she's into sex, yeah. And she isn't a friend with any of these girls.
Sana. I don't wanna talk about her.
Molly. As someone mentioned before, Molly is acting not really in-character for herself. Like, yeah, she's closet pervert, but it means SHE'S GOING TO BE A PERVERT ALONE. I mean, she's horny weeb teenager, yeah. Everyone can make mistakes, and Molly indeed felt bad afterwards. But justifying everything with "She's a teen, teens make mistakes" is exhausting already.
But if you're still going to blame everyone else, then you have to blame everyone else during the first Nodokathon, during the book release, during the moment Yumi beat her to half-death, during the moment Nodoka revealed Io's past. No one reacted TOO negatively towards Nodoka and everyone just accepted this shit afterwards. So it is, unfortunately, more like lazy writing because either there is some GODFUCKERY is going on as usual or because everyone just don't care, which is ruining any character development. Like, I can understand why Io (excluding an incident related to her) and Maya accept this shit. I can understand why Touka and Otoha will distance themselves from anything I mentioned. But starting from them, they will react with some kind of dislike towards Nodoka for AT LEAST ruining her own friendship with Futaba. But girls like Noriko, Ayane and Chika won't accept most of this shit.
Anyway, I'm tired. Yeah, the most obvious answer to this is GODFUCKERY once again. But that would be boring ass response from Sel. Because Nodoka would understand this, she's so-called genius after all. But noooo, she's just feeding the gods instead of breaking from their influence.
Edit.: I'll stop posting about Nodoka for now. At least until someone will peak my interest again.
Forever yours, Love*insertcolor*HairedGirl, also known as Nodoka disliker.
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Talishan
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Looks like something in your save is breaking the script, so it tries to do a rollback, but can't find any place to stop the rollback. Have you tried loading older saves? First try your second most recent. If that doesn't woek, then as a test you can first try to load your older save, then if that works you can load a save near the middle. If that works load a middle save again. Repeat until you find the most recent save that works. It is not unheard of for saves in this game to get fucked up.
Talishan
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Speaking of saves getting broken... all of the side girls show 0 affection to me and show no events completed or missed at all. I'm sure that's not going to cause any problems when the script calls their variables. EDIT: Disregard that, but I'll leave this here in case someone else experiences this: I had accidentally clicked on an event, if you go into the girl trackers during an event it shows as if you have 0 affection and no events viewed or missed.
EDIT: Disregard that, but I'll leave this here in case someone else experiences this: I had accidentally clicked on an event, if you go into the girl trackers during an event it shows as if you have 0 affection and no events viewed or missed.I'm starting to believe you don't like Nodoka :/
In a more serious note. I don't know how much can actually be attributed to Godfuckery for actual plot reasons or how much is it because Sel is having issues in writing. It is so very obvious now that most people are coming to terms with being part of a harem and being so open about it that it's getting too cliche~ish.
I just want this chapter to end and let's start the freaking corpse party already. I want to do a Durge-Ami run.
Pedro4545454
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Unfortunately, hatred blinds people, and this time the blame lies with the girls and not Nodoka, who didn't force anyone.
This chapter will last for a few more years, so it will take a long time.
Which is crazy, and if this mofo keeps taking so many PTO then we might actually get a GTA 7 before he is done with this one. Unless he drops it for something else or gets taken to jail, you never know.
I don't know where the story will take, it's some the game is more repetitive I means it's too many words in it and you don't know what is going on to the story
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I mean, I don't think it's wrong for someone to attribute a portion of the blame here to the person who thought up, organised and facilitated everything. The fact that she didn't put a gun to anyone's head doesn't completely absolve her.
Obviously Sana and Molly are responsible for their own actions but they're the ones getting slated for what they did anyway, it's not like people are ignoring or absolving them in favour of shitting on Nodoka.
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I didn't think that she would even be an option, since it feels like the game has been trying to force a different girl on Akira the entire time. I was pleasantly surprised.
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Guilt isn't a limited quantity, multiple people can have responsibility for an act. If you ask a murderer to kill someone and facilitate them doing so, both you and the murderer would be guilty. "I didn't force them to do it" is a flimsy excuse, Nodoka suggested it, went to the trouble of renting three separate rooms and rigging them with cameras, and had ample opportunity to put a stop to it. Molly, Nodoka, and Sana are all at fault here.
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(Usually my posts are structured, so mind that this one is just a very big ramble. Some of the points I raise may be interesting, but you won't miss much by skipping it.)
Anyway, I think the healthiest path forward is dismissing the entire update as something that ought to be thought about. Maybe in the future its status as a weird fever dream will get diluted by (one hopes) better pieces of writing before and after. Rather than a single bizarre update consumed on its own.
Edit: Eventually I may address each individual event, but honestly I'm just having more fun on my second playthrough of TLS than engaging with it for a second time. Never before have I thought about stopping playing LiL, but it did happen during 0.49.
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Edit: Eventually I may address each individual event, but honestly I'm just having more fun on my second playthrough of TLS than engaging with it for a second time. Never before have I thought about stopping playing LiL, but it did happen during 0.49.
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I hadn't really thought about it but you raise a good point, it's hard to imagine much deeply significant can come directly from Sana's actions here since it's entirely missable and not something that can just result in some dialogue variation. Maybe Sara will just be distant until the next reset and we'll just get memory fuckery as an excuse? Or just...chooses to ignore things? Blocks it out? Decides "well my daughter's adorable and I fucked my teacher so enjoy her pussy"? It'd be weird but still less out of character than most of Nodokathon 2.0 lol
I dunno, my brain's still flip-flopping on this update. I think I'm just gonna get back to playthrough #3 and pretend 0.49 started and ended with the omelette showdown rather than spend the next 2 months chewing on Nodokathon lol