Ren'Py Lessons in Love [v0.49.0] [Selebus]

[idiotamerican]

i thought at the time that the shift from maya to nodoka driving the plot wouldn't work well. however, it was necessary to "lose" maya, both because it was in some sense the payoff to the first part of the story, and because it's one of the only real consequences a time loop story could have. it was also necessary for maya to stay lost for at least a chapter or two, to reinforce the pathos.

the focus moved to ayane after maya left, and it should have stayed that way. most of what nodoka is doing should take place behind the scenes. very difficult to execute that well, though.

 

[Pedro4545454]

I like to see this difference, while some were disappointed with lessons in love, I actually got more hype for the next update, I feel like this update was just a preparation update for what will happen in the next version, Sara's upcoming events look very interesting, I feel like they're going to be one of the most important events in the games for her character so I'm really looking forward to seeing them.

 

[Budoop]

I like to see this difference, while some were disappointed with lessons in love, I actually got more hype for the next update, I feel like this update was just a preparation update for what will happen in the next version, Sara's upcoming events look very interesting, I feel like they're going to be one of the most important events in the games for her character so I'm really looking forward to seeing them.

I am absolutely dying to see Sara's reaction to all of this. I cannot wait to see her blow up at Akira for this.

 

[AgumenticR]

It's always kind of funny to see reactions so different from yours. I didn't understand why people were so bothered by the last Nodokathon and I understand even less about reactions for this one. "Characters ruined, everyone behaving OOC" just leaves me scratching my head.

 

[flacc2pit]

I agree, this update has potential to be perfectly fine in retrospect depending on how the next couple of updates go, very excited to see Sel cook in his element. However, I feel like I've seen people call the last couple of updates "setup updates." What exactly are these updates setting up for? The relative meandering of chapter 4 compared to the rest of the story calls into question the overall direction, meaning, and signifigance of the story as a whole. If the other chapters were like this throughout, you wouldn't have calls of people saying characters are acting out of character, for a example. Not just the length, but the recent pacing has been off, for lack of a better word.

 

[69BOI69]

I'm pretty sure there's an answer here somewhere but I can't find it, why are so many h-scenes removed but the scenes leading up to them still there while alluding to it happening?

 

[Budoop]

I'm pretty sure there's an answer here somewhere but I can't find it, why are so many h-scenes removed but the scenes leading up to them still there while alluding to it happening?

A: To save dev time,
B: Sel hates making sex scenes,
C: Sel is shit at making sex scenes anyway.

 

[69BOI69]

A: To save dev time,
B: Sel hates making sex scenes,
C: Sel is shit at making sex scenes anyway.

I'm talking early game where I'm 80% sure they were there a long time ago

 

[Budoop]

I'm talking early game where I'm 80% sure they were there a long time ago

Ohhh yeah a bunch of scenes got removed for being shit.
Go to the computer and look at the "Deleted scenes" section, you can replay them.

 

[69BOI69]

Ohhh yeah a bunch of scenes got removed for being shit.
Go to the computer and look at the "Deleted scenes" section, you can replay them.

The scenes exist but the H part is missing and isnt on the laptop like the Ami dream scene, Sara bar scene, and the first Ayane "hugging"

 

[69BOI69]

Ohhh yeah a bunch of scenes got removed for being shit.
Go to the computer and look at the "Deleted scenes" section, you can replay them.

Whats weirder is that the images are still there in the files but I just can't see them in game

 

[69BOI69]

The issue is I was using the Compressed version which doesn't has the subscribestar content enabled.

Huggy boy still exist.

 

[Detective Dc345]

Spoiler: Nodokathon 1 & 2 summed up

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[Budoop]

Spoiler: Nodokathon 1 & 2 summed up

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Replace "who's dog is that" with "Who's desk is that" and you're golden.

 

[Mr. Douchebag]

Okay I want to completely erase Nodokathon 2 from my memory now, apparently just going Io red route is not enough.

Is there any way to put my playthrough in a red path that would make Nodokathon 2 missable without having to replay from chapter 1? (i.e, putting myself into red Ami/Sara path)

 

[Jeraviel]

And yet, Selebus has to somehow work his path towards the revelation of Sara's past. This coming from watching Akira have a threesome with Sana and Molly makes complete sense. But how do you keep the revelation if it comes from nothing? When Nodoka blackmailed Yumi, it was possible for the paths to converge because it was a matter of degree of assault. When Stomachache happened, it was also a matter of degree - the fight always happens, it's the ending that is different.

This, however, is FOUR missed events, of which only the last one is the Sana/Sara stuff. Which means that there's no ending point to reconnect from. In the green path something very traumatic happens, and on the red path NOTHING, absolutely nothing happens. Sana wasn't even there, much less Sara. It's clear to me that other than Himawari's plan, the Sara's past revelation is the big deal of the chapter - but now I wonder how Selebus will manage to pull this off in both paths, and if it will make even clearer that LiL shouldn't ever have had multiple paths (as they are).

Spoiler: Where are we?

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It has to matter something. there is a reason this is happening. Something MUST have happened for things to have reached this point, to go from having consequences, to instead everything being accepted as "it is what it is".

Because if that's not the case, if all of this is being done just to facilitate the harem route in which everyone is holding hands singing kumbaya, then that can only mean that Selebus has gone mad or grew bored with his story. Is not just about lazy writing, is like taking your well-crafted piece of art and just taking a dump on it.

But I still have hope. There HAS to be a reason this is happening, and if there isn't, then that can only mean we are no different from crypto and NFTs bros who get constantly scammed by people they believe will lead them to salvation & riches.

 

[Mike.Ross80]

It has to matter something. there is a reason this is happening. Something MUST have happened for things to have reached this point, to go from having consequences, to instead everything being accepted as "it is what it is".

Because if that's not the case, if all of this is being done just to facilitate the harem route in which everyone is holding hands singing kumbaya, then that can only mean that Selebus has gone mad or grew bored with his story. Is not just about lazy writing, is like taking your well-crafted piece of art and just taking a dump on it.

But I still have hope. There HAS to be a reason this is happening, and if there isn't, then that can only mean we are no different from crypto and NFTs bros who get constantly scammed by people they believe will lead them to salvation & riches.

This is why I'm now on the "There is Something Wrong" train, that may get resolved by the next beach update. I'm sure I've seen that Sel considers the game to be about 50% complete. Everyone knowing about each other and the Harem route coming together seems like it would be closer to the 80% mark (or even closer to the end). I don't see how the story grows/ continues for another 50 updates that will keep enough people entertained for the duration if the Harem starts now. Like what conflict is there gonna be?

Now the issue with the "Something is Wrong" theory, it tying back the character growth we saw for the last 9 updates while hand waving away the out of character actions. How do you do that without making it seem like the past year was a waste?

 

[LessonsInDissonance]

Is there any way to put my playthrough in a red path that would make Nodokathon 2 missable without having to replay from chapter 1? (i.e, putting myself into red Ami/Sara path)

No

 

[thebadpastor]

This is why I'm now on the "There is Something Wrong" train, that may get resolved by the next beach update. I'm sure I've seen that Sel considers the game to be about 50% complete. Everyone knowing about each other and the Harem route coming together seems like it would be closer to the 80% mark (or even closer to the end). I don't see how the story grows/ continues for another 50 updates that will keep enough people entertained for the duration if the Harem starts now. Like what conflict is there gonna be?

Now the issue with the "Something is Wrong" theory, it tying back the character growth we saw for the last 9 updates while hand waving away the out of character actions. How do you do that without making it seem like the past year was a waste?

I would have thought the harem route would come together significantly before the 80% mark, honestly. Kind of hard to really estimate given we don't know how lengthy the dark route or the purity routes are gonna be. If I'm not misremembering every girl gets a purity route though, right? With 35 girls the purity routes should surely be a pretty substantial amount of the remainder.

 

[Pedro4545454]

I would have thought the harem route would come together significantly before the 80% mark, honestly. Kind of hard to really estimate given we don't know how lengthy the dark route or the purity routes are gonna be. If I'm not misremembering every girl gets a purity route though, right? With 35 girls the purity routes should surely be a pretty substantial amount of the remainder.

Selly has already said that the Dark Route will be the shortest route in the game, so there is a theory that it will last an average of 6 months.