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Objection! My cock is average at best.
Having an average cock is the best, sure, you might wish you were bigger, but that's balanced out by being glad you're not smaller, and so you don't feel a need to waste time and energy having a cock envy complex.
 
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Having an average cock is the best, sure, you might wish you were bigger, but that's balanced out by being glad you're not smaller, and so you don't feel a need to waste time and energy having a cock envy complex.
Imagine having no cock then.
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Imagine having no cock then.
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I still dont get why Sensei is somehow able to speak to john or why john suddenly had an existential crisis(I mean sure Tsuneyo can speak to noodles but ehh).


On the topic of Cocks though.Why do you guys think Kaori is so obsessed with saving all of them? Is it maybe a childhood thing or symbolism of sorts
 

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On the topic of Cocks though.Why do you guys think Kaori is so obsessed with saving all of them? Is it maybe a childhood thing or symbolism of sorts
It has been hinted a couple of times at it being symbolism for the residents of kumon-mi.

There is especially a conversation between Tsuneyo and Kaori, on chickens, in which Tsuneyo replicates Wires' stance (presumably) of "why would you try to save what's already doomed?", and Kaori is like "why would you not try to save someone that needs it?".

Although heavily hinted, it's never been confirmed that Kaori is from Pareidolia's camp, nor that those words mirror Pareidolia's real intentions (although he does state that he wants to make things better when first introduced).

What has been hinted though is that Kaori is a being/or has a being inside her that transcended time to some extent. She states multiple times she'll be with her Friend even beyond the realms of time, and that he always will be able to find his way to her.

That "they" (being either Himawari's resistance or USER4 and employees) sent Nao-chan to stay with Kaori could also mean something in terms of Kaori mirroring another's intentions with her wish to save those that are doomed.

I have a personal dream that we'll one day see a Narrator Kaori that speaks perfectly and is part of the Himawari's resistance, along with Narrator Maya. That will probably never happen, but it would be cool to see a reveal of someone narrating in normal speech and the camera pans out and it is other Kaori.
 

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It has been hinted a couple of times at it being symbolism for the residents of kumon-mi.

There is especially a conversation between Tsuneyo and Kaori, on chickens, in which Tsuneyo replicates Wires' stance (presumably) of "why would you try to save what's already doomed?", and Kaori is like "why would you not try to save someone that needs it?".

Although heavily hinted, it's never been confirmed that Kaori is from Pareidolia's camp, nor that those words mirror Pareidolia's real intentions (although he does state that he wants to make things better when first introduced).

What has been hinted though is that Kaori is a being/or has a being inside her that transcended time to some extent. She states multiple times she'll be with her Friend even beyond the realms of time, and that he always will be able to find his way to her.

That "they" (being either Himawari's resistance or USER4 and employees) sent Nao-chan to stay with Kaori could also mean something in terms of Kaori mirroring another's intentions with her wish to save those that are doomed.

I have a personal dream that we'll one day see a Narrator Kaori that speaks perfectly and is part of the Himawari's resistance, along with Narrator Maya. That will probably never happen, but it would be cool to see a reveal of someone narrating in normal speech and the camera pans out and it is other Kaori.
Hmm so for now at least Kaori is some sort of Wild Card that has yet to be revelead.We know not of her intentions nor of its goals.But we do know she harbors geniune affection towards akira so at least thats good.

EDIT:Thinking about it if i try and guess why kaori and tsuneyo think what they think i come up with this.

Kaori quite literally has no one.No family no friends no one.She is all alone so of course she would do anything to save others from their doom.
Tsuneyo on the other hand is similar but also different.She has her father,yes but he is on life support and is suffering.So what i believe is that Tsuneyo would prefer for her father to pass away peacefully even if she would love for him to be here with her.

TLDR:Both of them were characters i did NOT expect to like this much
 

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To become a chicken, you first have to begin as an egg.

Metaphorically, the students are the eggs. They're fragile and easily broken, but they're incubating. Eventually, they will hatch, and grow into full chickens. But at every stage of their life cycle, men want to devour them.

Kaori is trying to save them, and I suspect this is partly because she has a piece of Sekai inside her.

Sekai is the world. The world of Lessons in Love is the town of Kumon-Mi. The town that has two halves.

This is a game rife with duality. What if Sekai has a light/dark split, and the light resides within Kaori, while the dark is following Akira around? The Light knows the destructiveness of the cycle of abuse, and is using Kaori to save as many girls as she can -- which is why Kaori is set up to be a Christ metaphor. But poor Kaori is jumbling much of the message right now because she's still recovering from brain damage suffered in the accident.

Meanwhile, the dark half is tormenting Akira, pushing him to perpetuate the cycle, to become worse of a person than she ever was, because he is little more than a blank slate and she is no longer burdened by a conscience.
 

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To become a chicken, you first have to begin as an egg.

Metaphorically, the students are the eggs. They're fragile and easily broken, but they're incubating. Eventually, they will hatch, and grow into full chickens. But at every stage of their life cycle, men want to devour them.

Kaori is trying to save them, and I suspect this is partly because she has a piece of Sekai inside her.

Sekai is the world. The world of Lessons in Love is the town of Kumon-Mi. The town that has two halves.

This is a game rife with duality. What if Sekai has a light/dark split, and the light resides within Kaori, while the dark is following Akira around? The Light knows the destructiveness of the cycle of abuse, and is using Kaori to save as many girls as she can -- which is why Kaori is set up to be a Christ metaphor. But poor Kaori is jumbling much of the message right now because she's still recovering from brain damage suffered in the accident.

Meanwhile, the dark half is tormenting Akira, pushing him to perpetuate the cycle, to become worse of a person than she ever was, because he is little more than a blank slate and she is no longer burdened by a conscience.
I dont think Sekai has even a shred of "good" in her.At best she is a no-empathy traumatised child abuser.At worst she i,again a no-empathy Child abuser BUT she is so far gone that she thinks that her "love" is a good thing.
 

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Earlier today I was rewatching a couple of events, and in the last Yumi one she seems to imply that the "rapey detentions" were within the cycles.
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Furthermore, whoever (same one that made the time-skip happen to "beachmas") shows Akira rapey detention Yumi (presumably, although it could also not be in school) could even show him stuff from before the cycles? It probably would make more sense for it to be within it since they make a point to highlight when showing something from his past.
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However, what's confirmed to be before the cycles is Akira going after Yumi to pull her away from her life of petty crime, and that's confirmed to be before the cycles because she wasn't alone in the arcade (stealing from pachinko machines), and this level of normalcy doesn't exist inside the cycles (Yumi is always alone from the beginning of the game).

In conclusion, this may point to Akira's concern with Yumi being genuine in terms of trying to save her because he saw himself in her (the reason he became a teacher), or, at the very least, not realized in terms of malicious intent.

I'm taking whatever evidence I can get for the Yumi/Akira wholesome ending.

Edit: adjusted minor points as I searched for the screenshots.
Some mental gymnastics I did because I want to support this ship as well:
Did pulling Yumi away from conducting misdemeanors happen before cycles began?
(This is to examine how "confirmed" this is since any source of information regarding Sensei's past doings with Yumi has always been Yumi only)
  • Compared to detentions that Sensei referred to as "No. Too much work", pulling Yumi away from conducting misdemeanors requires A LOT MORE work and most likely does not lead to penis happy time at all. Therefore, this type of deed is a lot less applicable to horny iterations and comparatively more applicable to past Sensei when he still mentored students to a certain extent.
  • Yumi noticed Sensei's change quite early on in ways no one else could. She had no business being that perceptive if she didn't have some past interactions with him that left a sizeable impression on her. And I am willing to believe that the aforementioned impression was on her positive note. Otherwise, she wouldn't even have a reason to be so bothered by the personality inconsistency of someone she vehemently disliked.
  • Continued from point2: believing Yumi's past interactions with Sensei being somewhat positive also gives Yumi a non-kink reason to masturbate to Sensei and justifies her role as the token tsundere.
Did rapey detentions happen during cycles?
  • Honestly I found Sensei's answer toward Yumi's question unsatisfying. Despite being the most honest he can, this "No. Too much work" reply is a statement based solely off Sensei's tendency rather than memories. In other words, Sensei himself cannot distinguish deeds done by other iterations from deeds done by his past real self anyway, making his answer alone less of a fact but more of a conjecture.
(though instead of questioning the concreteness of what Sensei said, I think this is just Selly giving this loose end a forceful closure)
  • The biggest reason I believe that rapey detentions could only take place during cycles is that Yumi certainly would've tried to beat Sensei to death if she ever found herself in those situations before the cycle began. She should be even more feral, unruly, and rightfully be on the worst term with Sensei when the game started. Since none of this is likely true and there wasn't a proven reason for this particular pre-loop memory to go poof, the possibility of rapey detentions being done only by iterations instead of past real self is much higher.
  • Pre-loop Sensei doing rapey detentions would imply that he was "actively cheating" on Maya. Despite still lacking a direct proof, Sensei at the time being loyal to Maya is objectively more possible than Sensei already being the womanizer among his students, and having rapey detentions with Yumi prior to cycles began contradicts the idea of "Sensei being loyal to Maya" (thought I admit this is a weaker claim and is quite susceptible to future development).
Edit: I realized I didn't have a conclusion, that is yes I also think Sensei during pre-loop times was once being genuine about Yumi's situation, and all the rapey detentions were from other iterations during loop times due to the reasoning above.
 
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