Squalicorax

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I don't know how I never noticed this: Does Rin have the same eye color as Futaba and Nodoka?? Or is it actually slightly different?

If it is the same that really stands out. Look at how many different kinds of blue eyes there are, I've been using that as kind my guiding philosophy when it comes to eyes; if eye colors are actually the exact same, it's intentional. Either I need to reevaluate that belief or Rin's biomom might be involved with Nodoka's weird situation???
 

Hungnoxu

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I dont even understand what Prime mean here. So I will make a joke then go finish Chapter 3. Sel r holding back Niki with only 14 events in 0.49 (first 6 events dont even do much, almost nothing, only after Glasswater there r big impacts on both Niki and Akira). Therefor, I believe Niki Prime gonna appear later plus full memories Akira then beat Maya Prime easily. Mark my words
 

Acerdade

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Found out that scientific research has a secret option if you get Ayane's affection to 2000 before the event (Not in the guide)
Is there any other hidden events tied to her affection?
 
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Moonflare

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I dont even understand what Prime mean here.
Without getting into spoilers, "prime" means a certain version of someone, since it's clear from the early on that we're dealing with time-loops, and people would have different versions of themselves throughout.
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Found out that scientific research has a secret option if you get Ayane's affection to 2000 before the event (Not in the guide)
Is there any other hidden events tied to her affection?
Yes, this is one of the reason as to why we recommend everyone play with URM, since it will notify you instantly of this. Regardless, there are three events so far that have hidden Ayane affection requirements in the thousands:

1. Scientific Research (Himawari eating lamen)
2. Miserably ever after (hidden song choice)
3. Post-nut clarity (Himawari gets scarf from Ayane)
For me, the Green path is the path of an obedient puppet of the gods. Your hopes for a happy ending rely on the gods deciding to reward you for your obedience.
That's giving Selebus more credit than what he deserves, when the green path includes stuff like having to see specific events before other ones, in such a way that there is zero in-game reason to do so, and requires meta-gaming (like seeing "Abyss" before the onsen trip, or the deal with Good Homie and "Schadenfreude").
 
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Moonflare

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I've been thinking about this for a while and honestly I think it's a clean sweep for Maya Prime.
I agree, but there are multiple complications to this that hinge on Akira not having full recollection of his memories.
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So Niki, for all that I love Maya, was never pushed out due to lack of feelings but rather because they were overwhelming. Akira (for good reason) recognized multiple times that he didn't deserve her, nor did he want to put her in the position she now finds herself in: having to progressively compromise her integrity because she locked herself with him.
 

shmurfer

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I dont even understand what Prime mean here. So I will make a joke then go finish Chapter 3. Sel r holding back Niki with only 14 events in 0.49 (first 6 events dont even do much, almost nothing, only after Glasswater there r big impacts on both Niki and Akira). Therefor, I believe Niki Prime gonna appear later plus full memories Akira then beat Maya Prime easily. Mark my words
Prime only matters as a term in CH4 when it was introduced.

And a little on how you're confused about Niki. For as good as she is, and she's one of the GOAT's, the game is supposed to have you gushing over Maya at this point, and that's what everyone else was hoping you'd do for Maya instead of Niki.

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DeSkel15

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I agree, but there are multiple complications to this that hinge on Akira not having full recollection of his memories.
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So Niki, for all that I love Maya, was never pushed out due to lack of feelings but rather because they were overwhelming. Akira (for good reason) recognized multiple times that he didn't deserve her, nor did he want to put her in the position she now finds herself in: having to progressively compromise her integrity because she locked herself with him.
There's also how:
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TheGoodPastor

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Man, I love everyone here in this community so much. Everyone here willingly spent their time to explain things to me and assure that even theres no Prime Niki form, Niki is still one of the GOATs. Thx alot guys
Well, most people here love the VN and there's a lot to think/talk about so I imagine most are happy when questions pop up

As a side note - in case you're not aware - though they're still probably a good way away every girl in the game will eventually have a "purity route" where Sensei's dedicated to just that girl, so whatever other miserable shit happens you'll always have that to look forward to for Niki (and whichever other girls you love) lol
 

jclark1337

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Man, I love everyone here in this community so much. Everyone here willingly spent their time to explain things to me and assure that even theres no Prime Niki form, Niki is still one of the GOATs. Thx alot guys
That Niki event chain resonated with me a lot, it's still one of my favorites. As a matter of fact it's one of the first events that got me to post my thoughts here, so I definitely get you :) her character and story eerily reminded me of a childhood love that I had and part of me definitely roots for her. She was definitely too good for me as well
Ahh reached chapter 3 and Niki's first event What It Takes To Move Forward and wow I continue to be astonished at how much I resonate with the philosophical themes of this story on a daily level.

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Squalicorax

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Man I fucking love Yumi. I think certain inevitabilities of the plot are gonna be a genuine downer for me, not because of their impact on the victims or Akira, but for how they'll affect Yumi. I really don't want Yumi to be sad, maybe it's a little fucked up to think about that above anything else but c'mon. The thought of hurting one of the only things she genuinely cares about is genuinely upsetting to me in a way I don't think anything else in the game has or could, and it makes me feel a little silly.
 

Vega Cifer

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Finally finished this update. Annnnnnd I really hope Sara doesn't off herself or something cause uhh that was a wild thing to do. Sana really is on a roll here...she's kinda turning into someone I'm liking less each update. That is coming from me who likes the innocent type who is secretly freaky and eventually does it. Her first invite over event especially started up thus feeling

Anyway, neat update. Like last time, Nodokathan had me feeling awkward, kinda fast forwarded a bit of the text(the foot jobs were kinda hot tho I cannot lie). Good to see some more emotion from nodoka herself though, I actually like her as a character, seems fairly complex and idk...different from the others in her own way
 

fasoaga

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Karin's events in chapter 4 are all amazing. I didn't even care about her in my first playthrough and skipped all her scenes.
But now she is one of the few characters in chapter 4 that i actually care about what happens to them as a character and not just their place in the main story. Because her events have something most of the cast and main story lacks, more recognizable in chapter 4:

Focus.

Beginning of chapter 4 was bleak after what happened in chapter 3. And i am okay with the overall tone.
But when you have so many characters, and you try to spread their story in updates without an overall structure where their story is going or why, AFTER END OF CHAPTER 3 i can not enjoy and care about the characters and the main story.

It is similar to playing a video game with epic quest chain which ends in a cliffhanger. Than your boring average side quest grind begins so you need to level up for next main quest.

It is what i feel with chapter 4. Characters feel like comic relief in a episodic sitcom. They show up, make their remark about how horny or dumb they are, then leave. It would work in chapter 1,2,3 but not in 4. Sure there was a depression arc but it supposed to be end after 7th reset.
 
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