Ren'Py Lessons in Love [v0.53.0] [Selebus]

[Reiyayru]

I'm hammered, and so missed all the above conversation

Who else got new year hammered and is just waiting?

I have work so can't get New Year Hammered till Monday, did buy Sake while looking for Bailey's S'mores and finally found one I actually like. Monday I'm off so gotta go to the gym, find the S'mores, pick up some TCG cards and ice cream, figure out food then countdown till next LiL update and New years. Woot \(^_^)/

Edit - Think I'll just add this here instead of making a new post but looking through Sel's requested fanart some of them are really good, some a bit freaky weird, but loving the Gravure Sets, Tokua, Rin, and Miku's being standout.

 

[Reiyayru]

And about the fucked up time... what about the events? Surely, everyone talked about this before, but, who decide when Christmas happen? Or Halloween? Nobody give us a day, a month or something else...
Also, we did have a Christmas during summer, if my memory don't fail me. And in the next update, it will be during spring, right after Halloween...

Spoiler: Spoiler

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[shmurfer]

I'm hammered, and so missed all the above conversation

Who else got new year hammered and is just waiting?

You've managed to have your event two days before the relevant party so it kind of fits.

And about the fucked up time... what about the events? Surely, everyone talked about this before, but, who decide when Christmas happen? Or Halloween? Nobody give us a day, a month or something else...
Also, we did have a Christmas during summer, if my memory don't fail me. And in the next update, it will be during spring, right after Halloween...

Don't overthink it, obviously kumon mi is transported from the southern or northern hemisphere to give you the correct weather for the event.

 

[legend_shon]

Spoiler: No spoilers just some Uta pic

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Took it from here a few days ago but forgot where and from whom.
Also what is this? fan-art or selebus' wps?

 

[DeSkel15]

I don't remember seeing an argument for this, can you explain or point me to a post that goes into more detail?

For what it's worth, the name of the slumber party event is misleading. The party itself and the reset happen on the night of Dec 30.

Spoiler: December 28, 2020 (Clay & Clockwork)

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The next two days don't actually seem to change the date, as it's still said to be Dec 28th during 'Untitled':

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Time passing seems arbitrary at best, and possibly dangerous based off Nodoka's reaction:

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I want to ask a question about Maya.

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Sensei likely just blacked out and raped her. She mentions that he tore her costume off and he's literally pinning her down.

Spoiler: This was probably foreshadowed

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[lolzmandude]

so.. I think I'm a bit over halfway through chapter 3 and I have some thoughts considering the future.

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edit: also Akira is like omega fucked once the dam breaks, the dam is starting to show cracks and some things are already spilling out, but soon it will break and all will suffer because of it.

 

[Budoop]

so.. I think I'm a bit over halfway through chapter 3 and I have some thoughts considering the future.

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Personally, I find it to be a bit more of a tug of war than anything else, I won't elaborate due to spoilers but there's some lines to say the Rooftop Apocalypse Squad actually does have some power over things, but not a lot.

More importantly however, it seems the loops are incredibly unstable, I think even the gods don't have proper control over it and it's why the rules get a bit wavey from time to time.

IMO, its more likely that the loops will break due to something simply collapsing, like a domino effect of "that's not supposed to happen".

Maya makes a lot of mention about how things are starting to get unpredictable and weird, she becomes scared and pushy because it's no longer predictable, the rules changed rapidly in a short time and a big part of her character arc was this tension of no longer feeling safe.

They might not need more strength than a GOD, a few pushed buttons could destroy the whole thing, or so it seems.

 

[lolzmandude]

Personally, I find it to be a bit more of a tug of war than anything else, I won't elaborate due to spoilers but there's some lines to say the Rooftop Apocalypse Squad actually does have some power over things, but not a lot.

More importantly however, it seems the loops are incredibly unstable, I think even the gods don't have proper control over it and it's why the rules get a bit wavey from time to time.

IMO, its more likely that the loops will break due to something simply collapsing, like a domino effect of "that's not supposed to happen".

Maya makes a lot of mention about how things are starting to get unpredictable and weird, she becomes scared and pushy because it's no longer predictable, the rules changed rapidly in a short time and a big part of her character arc was this tension of no longer feeling safe.

They might not need more strength than a GOD, a few pushed buttons could destroy the whole thing, or so it seems.

Yeah that is something I did realize but didn't think of when I was writing. But there's also something else I noticed which is that the reset events are getting more... involved? In the sense that someone or something DOESN'T want Akira to make it to the reset. Or is at the very least happy to fuck with him relentlessly when the time comes.

 

[lolzmandude]

also whoops on Haruka but I can't say I didn't see this one coming

Spoiler: oopsie

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[lolzmandude]

Uhm... ok Nao also now scares me what the hell do you mean it became real.

Spoiler: ???

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[shmurfer]

also... now...
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what... I'm scared. ok that's just a real photograph of the ideal male living space.

You may want to consider waiting for a very specific save or setting a particular variable via URM, there's a happy event that you could knock out while doing this one at the same time. Or do you have a save that's played through 0.45's content?

 

[VoidExile]

Give her more headpats.

Can't yet, but I will be sure to give her 500 headpats when I get there.

Please do not screw someone's daughter...

Breaking news! Birth rate drops to 0!

 

[shmurfer]

I think I found some incorrectly flagged huggy boy dialogue

"Do you two need me to watch you try on swimsuits as well?"

Spoiler: if bonus == True

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[fasoaga]

Sensei likely just blacked out and raped her. She mentions that he tore her costume off and he's literally pinning her down.

Thanks, i hate it everything about it even more than before.

 

[lolzmandude]

You may want to consider waiting for a very specific save or setting a particular variable via URM, there's a happy event that you could knock out while doing this one at the same time. Or do you have a save that's played through 0.45's content?

Uhhh I feel like I need more information to go off of but if you mean there's something specific I need to do in that happy event I don't think I'm opposed to knowing what that would be. I'm still on my first playthrough so I don't have a completed save.

 

[throwawaysponge]

I generally agree with this idea. Renpy style games could do without the grinding, but having definite stops to do things at the players own pace, or access repeatables, secondary gameplay elements or such adds something to the experience. It's mostly monkey brain logic, but the illusion of choice makes it still feel somewhat like a game, rather than just reading.

LiL is probably one of the worst examples for it, though. No hints, many events obscurely hidden, a huge number of them only trigger on specific days, grinding for point requirements to start them rather than just click to start the next part, no secondary gameplay elements other than the repeatables which only get variation maybe once per chapter. And the ever present concern that the next event will lock you into a long chain with an obnoxious puzzle.
I recall someone referring to LiL's gameplay loop as hostile, which I think is pretty accurate.

You definitely explained it better than i did so thank you lol. I probably would have quit if the wiki didn't exist and i used that until i knew this thread and the guide mod existed. On top of that i don't 'struggle' but I'm just always curious as to the alt paths on games like Secrets of Sorcery/Crimson high/ (thank you Deskel for these suggestions but aaa.) running like 10+ saves at this point in multiple renpy games because a number was mentioned once or a fucking random phrase has become a thing I do and i genuinely hate the fact Sele has made me that paranoid.

The fact that LiL is so popular and i guess 'iconic' means many games are picking up the negative tropes at the same time as the tropes that may be beneficial instead

(I am a massive slut for the banger of an OST and it's almost always appropriate usage of such, it has been declining IMO recently however, ignoring the "Good kids" drama the tracks have been kind of lazily slapped together and i hope Sele gets their shit together again.)

 

[lolzmandude]

you and me both... pal?

 

[shmurfer]

Uhhh I feel like I need more information to go off of but if you mean there's something specific I need to do in that happy event I don't think I'm opposed to knowing what that would be. I'm still on my first playthrough so I don't have a completed save.

In 0.45 a secret happy event was added to Amy that you can only experience by having completed 0.45 (Technically seeing one sentence play from a specific event. It even works if you watch said event in a replay since it still correctly sets the persistent variable.

You can either make a specific save before doing "Amy" so you can return to it later on (since both unlocking the happy event and the marker for completing the happy event are persistent variables that exist outside of each individual save)

Or we could look at providing a save, or just giving you instructions to either set the variable itself, or I could give you the label of the event you could set to play in replay mode via URM. (Though it's an oddly spoilery sex scene from 0.45 and the line you need to witness is from the black screen dialogue that happens after many scenes)

 

[lolzmandude]

In 0.45 a secret happy event was added to Amy that you can only experience by having completed 0.45 (Technically seeing one sentence play from a specific event. It even works if you watch said event in a replay since it still correctly sets the persistent variable.

You can either make a specific save before doing "Amy" so you can return to it later on (since both unlocking the happy event and the marker for completing the happy event are persistent variables that exist outside of each individual save)

Or we could look at providing a save, or just giving you instructions to either set the variable itself, or I could give you the label of the event you could set to play in replay mode via URM. (Though it's an oddly spoilery sex scene from 0.45 and the line you need to witness is from the black screen dialogue that happens after many scenes)

I can make an extra save for that and come back to it. I'd just have to remember.

 

[kitsunedawn]

She'd had the sense that she was going to get reset for the last two resets. I think she finally realized it was going ot happen for sure and opted to go out with a bang.

I think she kinda figured something like that would happen the moment that Sensei went through the reset, and realized that things would return to 'normal' in her brain with her memories erased; and just decided to roll with it. At the same time, she also tried to teach Sensei as much as she could about what was happening.