Bingoogus
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Discussing the methods fashioned and honed in the before times, in the long long ago internet...
I do wonder, I'm blind/visually impaired, I play vn's using SelfVoicing, the mode built in Ren'py enabled by pressing V, reading out everything on the screen, except for purely visual parts, then we'd need the alt text attribute added in to those bits to be able to actually understand what's going on, most vn's are playable that way, there's even this dude, nocturnalDev, who made secret island.
He made a text only version of his game using a script he shared with me a while back, I was going to attach the script here, maybe someone would be able to do something with it, would make the game way much smaller,manageable to download, but I just found out that this game has visual puzzles that can't be skipped, nothing to do there I guess.
Here's the script, maybe someone here can work with it?
He made a text only version of his game using a script he shared with me a while back, I was going to attach the script here, maybe someone would be able to do something with it, would make the game way much smaller,manageable to download, but I just found out that this game has visual puzzles that can't be skipped, nothing to do there I guess.
Here's the script, maybe someone here can work with it?
Moonflare
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The AutoVN might be the solution in your case, since its nature would lead to skipping all the puzzles (to my knowledge).
Other than that, we have a spreadsheet with all puzzle answers in the first page, although I don't know to which extent that would be helpful with your situation. Other than this, maybe someone will pick it up and see what can be done. Best of luck.
thank you, I just hope someone could work with that script a bit, since the game is just way to huge to download for me at least heh
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Just in case warn you that usually at the 1st of the month there is an update (luckly for you, you may have enough content for a few month before having to update to the last version)
shmurfer
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No you have to decide you want to see the repeatable scenes and disable autovn, then re-enable it at will.
There's a certain degree of the game that you're going to miss out on. Most of the character events take place in text but there are a bunch of visual and audio cues during the game in random events. The first thing the game does is tell you to stop playing the game if you're not going to play with sound, and I imagine he'd do the same with visual if it wasn't already there in the name.
If you're going to attempt it anyway I'd highly recommend autovn for you then, it skips most of the grind and a lot of the puzzles, and you can find the puzzle guide for most of the others.
That said, with the sheer size of the game no one is going to reprocess the entire game to try and shrink it. The game pulls a lot of tricks and you've already said people would have to manually edit it. In the last update alone there's scenes where they remove text that could have appeared as narration dialogue, and instead put it up on the screen, including the variable increases for this specific character's affection and some flag changes which won't matter for people who aren't nerds for this game. You'd need people to put it back to text, and I don't see anyone who doesn't want to make it their entire project doing it.
Starting to sound like it's not worth it for you.
Adding to what shmurfer said, I remember Sel saying he wouldn't compromise his vision to make the game more accessible. So yeah, it's probably not worth it.
Maaaaybe in the future, when the game is fully finished, someone will make a more accessible version of the game. But before that? You're on your own with this game.
Bingoogus
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Starting to? Soon as i read 'visually impaired' my thought was 'yeeeeeeeeah this game ain't going to work for you brah'...
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I'm just struggling to remember if there were visual parts that were important that something like AutoVN wouldn't skip. If you're able to skip the puzzles the visual requirements of the game drop sharply. You just miss a bunch of "LESSONS IN LOVE", "THE END" and "TIS THE FUCKING SEASON" screens.
Karin's latest events are the only thing I can think of where you would miss plot not being able to read small print, but it does point to a trend.
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givemeabeer
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And the letters from Niki. I don't think they were write in a text box...
shmurfer
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Kinda. I love those letters, but you can infer what they say from the Niki lobby scene that follows immediately after Sensei receiving the letters / getting a care package memory. It's nowhere near as plot relevant as the Karin scene where the dialogue stops and Karin disappears, replaced with text embedded in the picture that literally tells you what would have happened next if the scene wasn't stopped, followed by the variable changes.
Game is much worse for not being able to read them though. The moments where they can't hold back the flood of emotions are my favorite bits of the game.
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Yeah, my impulse is to say that the game would obviously be less enjoyable without the visual element but not to the extent it'd be unplayable or an unworthwhile experience. There might be some scenes where it's hard to follow along for a lack of descriptive writing in something that's being showed visually as well, though.
I guess that would be the case for a lot of visual novels though so if someone's able to enjoy those I would think they'd be able to enjoy LiL too? It's not an element I've really considered much since my eyes work lol
I guess that would be the case for a lot of visual novels though so if someone's able to enjoy those I would think they'd be able to enjoy LiL too? It's not an element I've really considered much since my eyes work lol
Detective Dc345
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I can't say if it'll be worth it or not, but I guess I'll find something else to enjoy.
any recommendations?
I've played ripples, ravager, once in a lifetime, sisterly lust, light of my life and a few others.
some of them were perfect in regards to me not missing anything, since not a lot was purely visual, and also the parts that were? you could understand what's happening from the text alone after
any recommendations?
I've played ripples, ravager, once in a lifetime, sisterly lust, light of my life and a few others.
some of them were perfect in regards to me not missing anything, since not a lot was purely visual, and also the parts that were? you could understand what's happening from the text alone after
Detective Dc345
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When is Nodoka going to finish that book? She's been reading the same book for 3 years.