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If it turns out it's been the same Ami pretending the whole time that would be pretty disappointing for me for various reasons, I won't believe it until there's concrete evidence
Same; that'd be not just a disappointing reveal, but a lazy one; lazy enough to not care about how much sense it could make all the way throughout the entire story since the beginning.
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Is the "Good Uncle" path more or less defunct now? Was idly wondering if there was any variation of note in this last update leading up to the death of Nu Maya.
IIRC only minor differences in dialogues when Sensei talked to Ami; nothing major. THOUGH, I thought red pathers should have been "softlocked" in this recent reset in a joke manner because there shouldn't be a cum jar for Sensei to craft lavender perfume, but don't think about it too much it rots your brain.
 

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I have a question that I think hasn't been posed recently. Tbh I don't know if even Selebus knows. But how does the reset actually happens?
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Edit: Furthermore there's also the question of if the reset was triggered because Akira went into a state of shock by seeing Maya's head, or it was the sacrifice of Maya (same as the previous sacrifice of Ami) that summoned the reset (or rather broke the world, putting it into a state that needs a reset).
 
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I don't think Sel has narrowed down what actually causes a reset to start. The fact that Maya could feel them coming on before Akira passes out into a reset puzzle implies the process doesn't involve him at all. Yasu was also able to be a conduit for HOPE berating Akira for not following orders before he passes into reset time. He only felt weird one time and that was during the end of Chapter 3, otherwise he's alert enough to berate Maya for harassing Ayane until the moment he slips into the room with HOPE, or can turn around and see the others T posing before he enters untitled children's tv show.

Ending a reset seems to be based on making a wish tho.
 

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I don't think Sel has narrowed down what actually causes a reset to start. The fact that Maya could feel them coming on before Akira passes out into a reset puzzle implies the process doesn't involve him at all. Yasu was also able to be a conduit for HOPE berating Akira for not following orders before he passes into reset time. He only felt weird one time and that was during the end of Chapter 3, otherwise he's alert enough to berate Maya for harassing Ayane until the moment he slips into the room with HOPE, or can turn around and see the others T posing before he enters untitled children's tv show.

Ending a reset seems to be based on making a wish tho.
even how a reset works itself is a mystery. wdym Ayane has to do reset puzzles as well? and why trivia questions?? how does this shit work? isn’t information usable in reset puzzles only perceived by the player?
 

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What if Ami isn't real in the wider world? Himawari, yes, but what if Ami too? What if Kyoto? What if she exists now because of Sensei's belief in her, like in the gods' case?
I think there's pretty good evidence (one of the many things I need to find time to write up some day...) that Ami only exists in this world because of a wish from Sekai and/or Akira. I don't think that makes her any less real, she's still their daughter, the wish just changed the past to allow her birth to happen.

I don't know what that means for the "real world", we just have far too little information about how it and the "simulation" are connected.
I have a question that I think hasn't been posed recently. Tbh I don't know if even Selebus knows. But how does the reset actually happens?
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Edit: Furthermore there's also the question of if the reset was triggered because Akira went into a state of shock by seeing Maya's head, or it was the sacrifice of Maya (same as the previous sacrifice of Ami) that summoned the reset (or rather broke the world, putting it into a state that needs a reset).
I see a few possibilities:
  • Something teleported them to the roof. (We know that can happen in this world, especially when physical laws break down during a reset.)
  • They walked to the roof while blacked out (like Sensei has done in previous resets).
  • They're not really on the roof at all, that's just how their minds perceive some space between worlds they can't comprehend.
As for which one it is... I'm not sure it really matters. I think trying to find literal meaning in every little detail - especially during resets - is a mistake when Selebus is generally more concerned with symbolic meaning and themes. In some sense the roof is probably important because it had special meaning to Maya ("Baby Finches"), which then became special meaning to Sensei. It also works symbolically as high ground above the metaphorical flood destroying the world. Though there's probably more to it than that - I still wonder why Nodoka ended up there and what she was expecting to find.

My understanding is that there's no particular cause which starts a normal reset event. They happen because the world breaks down over time - apparently these artificial worlds have limited lifespans, which have become far shorter than they should be as the well fails. The reset itself (fixing the world or making a new one) is triggered by the gods (or maybe just Wires), traditionally after a wish from Maya Prime. (I don't think Ami's death triggered the sixth reset, it had already started before that happened.)

Factory resets are different; they're still triggered by gods, but only after something breaks so badly that the timeline can't be fixed, so everything needs to start over. From Maya Prime we know this often happened when Sensei was confronted with something he wasn't equipped to handle, like the return of suppressed memories. I imagine something similar was triggered when he saw Maya's head, especially since it was a gift from Ami. Himawari specifically said the universe was undergoing a factory reset. They don't need to be directly linked to Sensei, though; Wires unsuccessfully tried to protect himself with a factory reset in "Pop Goes the Weasel".
 

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I'm doing Makoto's quiz right now and I legit have no idea how you're supposed to figure out these Gods' names

I'm also really sick right now so my mind isn't working at 100% and maybe I just forgot, but I can't recall any of them mentioned, except maybe Floral Laura, that one sticks to my mind for some reason
 

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I'm doing Makoto's quiz right now and I legit have no idea how you're supposed to figure out these Gods' names

I'm also really sick right now so my mind isn't working at 100% and maybe I just forgot, but I can't recall any of them mentioned, except maybe Floral Laura, that one sticks to my mind for some reason
I believe they're all gods that have only been introduced since Chapter 4. If you blanked on that much, well at least the sex scenes are great.
 

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I believe they're all gods that have only been introduced since Chapter 4. If you blanked on that much, well at least the sex scenes are great.
I went back like 100-200 save pages and found Giuseppe and Halftone, my god did my brain not deign it important enough to keep random Gods in my memory over several months, I guess this is one of the downsides of longform content

But yeah, I guess if you don't remember then you have to either find old save files or just check random main/happy events until you stumble into them again
 
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I'm doing Makoto's quiz right now and I legit have no idea how you're supposed to figure out these Gods' names

I'm also really sick right now so my mind isn't working at 100% and maybe I just forgot, but I can't recall any of them mentioned, except maybe Floral Laura, that one sticks to my mind for some reason
You mean to tell me you don't remember the name of the God of Save Slots? He's such an integral character.

For real though I think most or all of them are on the character list on the wiki. Aside from that it's just flicking through old events or remembering. I've got a good memory but I'm really shit with names for some reason so it was kind of a pain in the ass but finding the events wasn't too hard lol

Anyway, if you can't be bothered and still need them the answers are gossamer, giuseppe, pegasus, halftone, floral laura, necalli, onund, harimanti, arramin and apollo in that order.
 
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I went back like 100-200 save pages and found Giuseppe and Halftone, my god did my brain not deign it important enough to keep random Gods in my memory over several months, I guess this is one of the downsides of longform content

But yeah, I guess if you don't remember then you have to either find old save files or just check random main/happy events until you stumble into them again
If you wanna go blind, I made a list of gods' names and which event they appear (except that the only mention of the last god in the quiz is in the filename of the last image of the Molly event, unless you subscribe to the theory that Touka's horse is a god)
 

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I think there's pretty good evidence (one of the many things I need to find time to write up some day...) that Ami only exists in this world because of a wish from Sekai and/or Akira. I don't think that makes her any less real, she's still their daughter, the wish just changed the past to allow her birth to happen.

I don't know what that means for the "real world", we just have far too little information about how it and the "simulation" are connected.
So the current popular theory is that Ami is a God that exists only because Akira and Sekai believe in her?

Also, I wonder when the Symposium stuff is gonna finally come to a head

If all the old(?) lore about Terminals and stuff and Sensei's world being a simulation or whatever with admins and Himawari is still true, someone really needs to introduce these people to good backup practice
 
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If you wanna go blind, I made a list of gods' names and which event they appear (except that the only mention of the last god in the quiz is in the filename of the last image of the Molly event, unless you subscribe to the theory that Touka's horse is a god)
Nah, I'm the kinda player who just checks the game's code for the answer

I used to be the kinda player that would literally record happy events for later, and autistically screenshot any numbers that might seem relevant, but it's such a waste of time and effort
 

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So the current popular theory is that Ami is a God that exists only because Akira and Sekai believe in her?

Also, I wonder when the Symposium stuff is gonna finally come to a head

If all the old(?) lore about Terminals and stuff and Sensei's world being a simulation or whatever with admins and Himawari is still true, someone really needs to introduce these people to good backup practice
Not that popular, just an alternate explanation, in my case I think it solves the Kyoto issues, and that Sekai's death occurred after the train scene but before Ami's birth.
Technically it already was referenced heavily in this update (and a bit before), both in the events, in the references to hearing school bells near the sea, and in this reset puzzle, where it's revealed the TSS and reset locations share the same, let's say, dimensional co-coordinates in a higher plane (or if you want, the tea party dimension in Umineko), and aren't just each their own thing.
I don't think the gods want reminders that their attempts at whatever the Terminals are for failed.
 

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One upside to having ADHD to go along with my autism is that i cbf'd to be that autistic... i don't have the energy bro... when the autistic 5 year old comes up to me in my head with shit like that i just say 'that's nice little buddy, you go have fun with that, daddy needs a nap so play quietly ok'...
 

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So the current popular theory is that Ami is a God that exists only because Akira and Sekai believe in her?
popular for aramaug. no.

the popular theory (or theories) i'd say is a debate between current Ami being the same Ami we knew at the beginning of the game or not. There is no real unified theory about that at the moment, there are solid points to either interpretation.
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Do mind that Selebus has said that Ami is the character that most people get wrong/has most unrevealed stuff, and that Ayane is currently the best understood/portrayed one. It'd be wild if we got an "ami never existed" arc following the events from this reset, but I'm not holding my breath.
 
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I'm doing Makoto's quiz right now and I legit have no idea how you're supposed to figure out these Gods' names

I'm also really sick right now so my mind isn't working at 100% and maybe I just forgot, but I can't recall any of them mentioned, except maybe Floral Laura, that one sticks to my mind for some reason
I was scared of it at first. But then i realised urm gives you the answer.

At that point, going back to previous events to find out which made up god matches with riddles, was not an attractive option.
 
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