Ren'Py Lessons in Love [v0.53.0] [Selebus]

[DeSkel15]

Sensei is a bad person, this is indisputably true, but in the example above, he did a good thing. He's done several in the game as well despite being a bad person, sometimes with the motive to make the girls easier to manipulate into sex, sometimes without a bad reason or any reason at all. He helped Yumi get a job, he was there for Rin when she failed to get Chika and when she would be cutting herself, but he also did things to Molly and kissed Yumi without consent.

I've already replied to the other stuff and see no reason to repeat myself, so I'll focus on this part.

Which example was supposed to be without a bad or any reason at all? Because Sensei still wants to fuck Yumi, masturbates to fantasies of her obsessively, and on top of that, he seems to feel somewhat guilty for forcing himself on her before. Sensei definitely isn't just helping Yumi out of the goodness in his heart, and actually seems to consider her an idiot for trusting him:

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Also Yumi doesn't have a job as Sensei kind of got distracted, so she's been looking alone lately.

Even him being there for Rin was still due to him wanting to fuck her, he's also partly responsible for why she got rejected as her crush likes him, and he could have been a bad homie as well, so he may be feeling some guilt from her crying (he did mention a part of him wanted to apologize, later on). In retrospect he may have even gotten some satisfaction from Rin's suffering considering Sensei has admitted:

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He seems to have grown to care about Rin, but that isn't the only reason he tries to be there for her.

It's kind of difficult to recall anything he's done that doesn't at least seem to have an ulterior motive, tbh. Sensei isn't exactly altruistic.

 

[Scorn.]

Hey, guys, just wanted to ask if the care packages are safe to use? Thanks in advance

 

[1804maya]

As the link above does not work anymore:
Can anyone please provide the care package #7 (or a link to it)?

Thanks in advance!

i upload them, they last about a week, usually someone who manages OP adds more permanent links to the first page by that time

 

[LoveWhiteHairedGirl]

Do you hate her as a person or do you hate what she does in the story? Cause this reminds me of, when i was a kid, big brother was a thing and people would always vote out the chaotic people early on cause they were unpopular and the second half of each season was boring as piss without them. You might hate Nodoka, but i hope you can see how she is a good causal instigator of interesting content.

I hate Nodoka both for her actions and as a person.
But as a character she is definetely good one. She is created to be like this, I guess.

 

[fdsasdf_p]

Hey, guys, just wanted to ask if the care packages are safe to use? Thanks in advance

Replace the gui file provided also at the first page to dodge game bricking and saves purging; read the post about disable DRM before continuing. Make a separate copy of the entire LiL to avoid any unforeseen shenanigan (and perhaps keep that copy for the sole purpose of **)

 

[alex2011]

I've already replied to the other stuff and see no reason to repeat myself, so I'll focus on this part.

Which example was supposed to be without a bad or any reason at all? Because Sensei still wants to fuck Yumi, masturbates to fantasies of her obsessively, and on top of that, he seems to feel somewhat guilty for forcing himself on her before. Sensei definitely isn't just helping Yumi out of the goodness in his heart, and actually seems to consider her an idiot for trusting him:

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Also Yumi doesn't have a job as Sensei kind of got distracted, so she's been looking alone lately.

Even him being there for Rin was still due to him wanting to fuck her, he's also partly responsible for why she got rejected as her crush likes him, and he could have been a bad homie as well, so he may be feeling some guilt from her crying (he did mention a part of him wanted to apologize, later on). In retrospect he may have even gotten some satisfaction from Rin's suffering considering Sensei has admitted:

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He seems to have grown to care about Rin, but that isn't the only reason he tries to be there for her.

It's kind of difficult to recall anything he's done that doesn't at least seem to have an ulterior motive, tbh. Sensei isn't exactly altruistic.

The in game examples without bad or no reason would be the first two inline spoilers. Those things were done with no apparent reason behind them or at least no reason which is morally bad despite Sensei's overall goal since the start of the game. Yes, he still wants to fuck both of the girls in those examples, but this is not portrayed as why he did the actions in those examples like a majority of his actions are. Also, yeah, he does consider her an idiot for trusting him and he's right for considering her an idiot for trusting the guy who forced a kiss on her before this that she still clearly remembers even well after the point where she is shown to be trusting him enough to allow the example in the inline spoiler. You would think it would be smarter not even to allow him in at all after that, I would have locked the door and told him to go away in her position, even if he was genuinely there to help, and been ready to defend myself in case he tried to let himself in.

He didn't have to help her with that, but he did and he didn't show any apparent bad reasoning for it, his reasoning isn't really apparent at all really. Yes, I'm aware of her situation as it stands now as far as the job thing, but he still tried to help her. It's actually not his fault she doesn't have one, it's her attitude being one of the big factors, nobody would hire someone that abrasive for very long if at all.

As far as Rin, yes, he wants to fuck her, that's been his goal with all the girls since the beginning. However, he does not show this as his reasoning for being there when she goes into her depressed state or is upset like with the Chika rejection. Also, only in the bad homie route is it his fault that Chika rejected her, he did nothing with Chika in the good homie route. He cannot control how Chika feels and she already felt something for him in both cases.

He's by no means altruistic and he's as bad as people come without being downright evil, but again, bad people are not incapable of good things.

 

[JelF547]

Honestly, that begs the question, if Nodoka turns out to be the face of Chapter 4, I wonder how everyone will take it?

Nodoka being the main girl for a chapter like Ayane seemed to be in Chapter 3, and Maya in Chapter 2, seems.. interesting. Might actually get some answers at least.

I would not care at all. If I would be asked to label chapters with ayane/ami/maya, I'l make Ayane face of chapter 2 and Maya face of chapter 3. Maybe I just don't get which kind of emphasis that characters got in corresponding chapters

 

[DeSkel15]

I would not care at all. If I would be asked to label chapters with ayane/ami/maya, I'l make Ayane face of chapter 2 and Maya face of chapter 3. Maybe I just don't get which kind of emphasis that characters got in corresponding chapters

The Chapters, in theory, seem to represent when characters became truly important to Sensei.

Chapter 1 is when he relearns to love Ami, and decides how to move forward in their relationship. Chapter 2 has Maya go from mysterious and mean, to pitiable and vulnerable. Sensei got her that scarf at the end of Chapter 1, and by the end of Chapter 2, he's celebrating her bday with her on more or less a date.

End of Chapter 2/Beginning of Chapter 3, I think is when he first said he loved Ayane to calm her down. She's grown more important throughout the chapter.

By Chapter 3, he's also considered Ami and Maya the two most important figures in his life:

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and they were the faces of previous chapters, so Ayane might be in 3rd place. Albeit, considering all the recent Niki, and Noriko stuff, I'm not confident about that.

If this trend continues then Chapter 4 might lead to Sensei falling for Nodoka which would be quite an adventure considering he barely considers her human. I can definitely see Niki or Noriko being the face of Chapter 4 though.

 

[DeSkel15]

The in game examples without bad or no reason would be the first two inline spoilers. Those things were done with no apparent reason behind them or at least no reason which is morally bad despite Sensei's overall goal since the start of the game. Yes, he still wants to fuck both of the girls in those examples, but this is not portrayed as why he did the actions in those examples like a majority of his actions are. Also, yeah, he does consider her an idiot for trusting him and he's right for considering her an idiot for trusting the guy who forced a kiss on her before this that she still clearly remembers even well after the point where she is shown to be trusting him enough to allow the example in the inline spoiler. You would think it would be smarter not even to allow him in at all after that, I would have locked the door and told him to go away in her position, even if he was genuinely there to help, and been ready to defend myself in case he tried to let himself in.

He didn't have to help her with that, but he did and he didn't show any apparent bad reasoning for it, his reasoning isn't really apparent at all really. Yes, I'm aware of her situation as it stands now as far as the job thing, but he still tried to help her. It's actually not his fault she doesn't have one, it's her attitude being one of the big factors, nobody would hire someone that abrasive for very long if at all.

As far as Rin, yes, he wants to fuck her, that's been his goal with all the girls since the beginning. However, he does not show this as his reasoning for being there when she goes into her depressed state or is upset like with the Chika rejection. Also, only in the bad homie route is it his fault that Chika rejected her, he did nothing with Chika in the good homie route. He cannot control how Chika feels and she already felt something for him in both cases.

He's by no means altruistic and he's as bad as people come without being downright evil, but again, bad people are not incapable of good things.

Those examples do have bad, and multiple reasons though (as I went over), so it seems pretty flawed.

Anyone can do "good things", but that doesn't mean that they do them for a "good reason". Hence my initial point.

 

[barglenarglezous]

If this trend continues then Chapter 4 might lead to Sensei falling for Nodoka which would be quite an adventure considering he barely considers her human. I can definitely see Niki or Noriko being the face of Chapter 4 though.

Maya and Ayane both experienced shocks to their status quo in the first two chapters, with Maya's scarf forcing her to rethink everything she understood about the cycles, and Ayane's pregnancy forcing her to re-evaluate her relationship with Sensei.

Who's life has been most disrupted in Chapter 3? Makoto. So there's an argument for her to be the Chapter 4 poster girl.

Also, as an aside, if this means we're getting 20 chapters, I may not live to see the end of this game.

 

[DeSkel15]

Maya and Ayane both experienced shocks to their status quo in the first two chapters, with Maya's scarf forcing her to rethink everything she understood about the cycles, and Ayane's pregnancy forcing her to re-evaluate her relationship with Sensei.

Who's life has been most disrupted in Chapter 3? Makoto. So there's an argument for her to be the Chapter 4 poster girl.

Also, as an aside, if this means we're getting 20 chapters, I may not live to see the end of this game.

Okay, I liked (emoji) your post before I read the end, so yeah, don't die.

Anyway, that's a good point on Makoto, and considering how she might make it to the roof, I can definitely see her being the face, and honestly the girl deserves it after all she's been through.

Maybe it'll be multiple faces, with her and Miku sharing a chapter? I could see the girls who are close to eachother sharing chapters, like Io and Uta, or even Tsuneyo and Molly. Maybe even the Nakayamas. Not sure how I'd feel about a Noriko Kirin chapter.

 

[crustlord12]

I hate Nodoka both for her actions and as a person.
But as a character she is definetely good one. She is created to be like this, I guess.

I'm with you, I like characters that I hate because of how they're written. It feels good to dislike a character's personality, and not because they were poorly written.

Maya and Ayane both experienced shocks to their status quo in the first two chapters, with Maya's scarf forcing her to rethink everything she understood about the cycles, and Ayane's pregnancy forcing her to re-evaluate her relationship with Sensei.

Who's life has been most disrupted in Chapter 3? Makoto. So there's an argument for her to be the Chapter 4 poster girl.

Also, as an aside, if this means we're getting 20 chapters, I may not live to see the end of this game.

Neither will any of our hard drives. I wonder if Sel will eventually break the game up into chapter downloads because it's getting ridiculous.

 

[barglenarglezous]

Okay, I liked your post before I read the end, so yeah, don't die.

Anyway, that's a good point on Makoto, and considering how she might make it to the roof, I can definitely see her being the face, and honestly the girl deserves it after all she's been through.

Maybe it'll be multiple faces, with her and Miku sharing a chapter? I could see the girls who are close to eachother sharing chapters, like Io and Uta, or even Tsuneyo and Molly. Maybe even the Nakayamas. Not sure how I'd feel about a Noriko Kirin chapter.

No plans, I just know that 1) I'm clumsy AF and 2) I've already had to yeet one organ

Odds are good I'm gonna trip over my own pants and break my neck before this game ends.

 

[DeSkel15]

No plans, I just know that 1) I'm clumsy AF and 2) I've already had to yeet one organ

Odds are good I'm gonna trip over my own pants and break my neck before this game ends.

Well, damn, I wish you luck. Imma have to haunt Sel if I croak before the game is over.

 

[vulpix74z]

Stupid question, sorry if already answered but why does the site have this game not getting an update since four years ago when its clearly still getting updated?

 

[DeSkel15]

Stupid question, sorry if already answered but why does the site have this game not getting an update since four years ago when its clearly still getting updated?

Developer added DRM, pissed off the Mods, no more free advertising. That's the gist.

Only those looking for it will be able to find it, but yeah it's still being updated monthly, around the 1st of each.

 

[vulpix74z]

Developer added DRM, pissed off the Mods, no more free advertising. That's the gist.

Only those looking for it will be able to find it, but yeah it's still being updated monthly, around the 1st of each.

ahhh gotta, I was wondering since I havnt seen the game in a while, thanks for the answer, I'll just check back in myself for now on

 

[JelF547]

BTW, does anybody know where I can get tech support for running game with joiplay, if I was banned in official discord?

 

[k1n5l4y3r]

BTW, does anybody know where I can get tech support for running game with joiplay, if I was banned in official discord?

Probably here or some joyplay specific forum. Just don't expect too much as not only it's unofficial there is a low amount of joyplay users.

 

[DSasha]

If I somehow hope to have a chance to fuck someone, then whatever I do for that person has ulterior motives? Can't I maybe fantasize with someone and at the same time wanting to genuinely help em?

Sensei definitely isn't just helping Yumi out of the goodness in his heart, and actually seems to consider her an idiot for trusting him:

Can't it be this Sensei just trying to give some good advice? I mean, I consider myself the most honest and transparent person I know lol, but sometimes I have said something similar to other people for believing me so easy, it's like: "You shold not believe this fast in anybody, not even me".