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Guys, I finished chapter two now and I have a question about reset 4... Selly has problems, right? why is it seriously not possible, never in my life would I have gone through this reset without help, he must seriously hate us lol
lol He just likes puzzles. They vary in difficulty, but yeah, more than once I've had to use a guide for answers because I was stumped. A lot of the time, you have to remember a little detail from months back, which is crazy for the average person.

I remember before, in the game, Selebus saying (jokingly, I'm sure) that he wanted Lessons in Love to become a religion and be taught in schools. It seems he really does want you to memorize the whole thing. Before there were easy to find guides being quickly updated, I even kept notes for reference.
 
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Molly literally stole Rin's first kiss, more or less tackled her, and is currently seducing Sensei. I wouldn't consider her submissive or a "tiptoer"
I called Rin submissive. Molly is insecure, and people like that are often agressive because they don't know how to deal with their frustrations, going from 0 to 100 is not uncommon behaviour. Whatever "seducing", and advances she is been doing have nothing to do with how you behave in a healthy relationship and clearly not what Rin wants, those are examples of her not being able to read or consider Rin's emotions, which is my point. I don't see your paralelisms either, so I'll leave it here and agree to disagree.
 

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Random fun fact, Molly and Rin used to have late night eroge marathons with eachother, apparently:
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That's really funny but also kind of weird, they watched porn together and never got so horny they tried experimenting with each other? Not once? Fuck, i must be a slut or something cause even friends who i weren't attracted to, so long as they didn't repulse me, still ended up trying things with me in the past, several of them over the years, like, your horny, there's someone who's also horny, it's just the two of you... kinda weird nothing ever happened, even minor... like, not even 'ill rub yours and you rub mine?'...
 

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That's really funny but also kind of weird, they watched porn together and never got so horny they tried experimenting with each other? Not once? Fuck, i must be a slut or something cause even friends who i weren't attracted to, so long as they didn't repulse me, still ended up trying things with me in the past, several of them over the years, like, your horny, there's someone who's also horny, it's just the two of you... kinda weird nothing ever happened, even minor... like, not even 'ill rub yours and you rub mine?'...
Molly and Rin probably watched and read so much porn, it became more of a hobby than a way to get off.

Also, maybe Rin made it clear to Molly that she wasn't her type during one of these marathons. I can see this revelation happening after Molly got horny enough to lend a hand.
 

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I called Rin submissive. Molly is insecure, and people like that are often agressive because they don't know how to deal with their frustrations, going from 0 to 100 is not uncommon behaviour. Whatever "seducing", and advances she is been doing have nothing to do with how you behave in a healthy relationship and clearly not what Rin wants, those are examples of her not being able to read or consider Rin's emotions, which is my point. I don't see your paralelisms either, so I'll leave it here and agree to disagree.
I was referring more to "Molly has her on a pedestal, she wouldn't know what to do, I can see her tiptoeing around her". Hence mentioning "tiptoer". I just added that she's not submissive. She's not even that insecure, either.

I think Molly would have plenty of ideas about what to do in the relationship. She just sees Rin as a less awkward version of herself.

Also, I was referring to a hypothetical situation where Rin overlooked the fact that Molly doesn't get her pussy wet. As they are/were, it'd definitely be a toxic relationship. Molly is too selfish, and Rin is too lustful.
 

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Molly and Rin probably watched and read so much porn, it became more of a hobby than a way to get off.

Also, maybe Rin made it clear to Molly that she wasn't her type during one of these marathons. I can see this revelation happening after Molly got horny enough to lend a hand.
Maybe, horny brain does lower standards though, at least for me, but that has me guessing i might just be a slut cause like i said, unless i find the person hideous or revolting, watching porn with someone has a decent chance of me thinking 'eh, maybe... could be fun...' which for hormonal teens is likely to be even stronger. I'm not saying i'm right or anything, just that that's how it is for me so i can't really relate to it, doesn't click with me, but that's pretty typical for my weirdo brain to not get your more neurotypical types when it comes to such scenarios.
 

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Maybe, horny brain does lower standards though, at least for me, but that has me guessing i might just be a slut cause like i said, unless i find the person hideous or revolting, watching porn with someone has a decent chance of me thinking 'eh, maybe... could be fun...' which for hormonal teens is likely to be even stronger. I'm not saying i'm right or anything, just that that's how it is for me so i can't really relate to it, doesn't click with me, but that's pretty typical for my weirdo brain to not get your more neurotypical types when it comes to such scenarios.
Horny brain can make some do anything. I've fooled around more, watching the movie "Split", or playing The Witcher 3, than I have while watching porn, with others, though. I was 15 or less, around these times. Watching porn with others tends to be more funny than hot in my experience.

Different strokes for different folks, I guess.

Then again, I'm the kind of person that would be drinking wine (preferably champagne), while conversing about Anal with Nodoka and Maki in this scene:
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I'm not exactly a typical subject. Plus I also find humanity revolting, 99% of the time, so..

Edit: Rin and Molly are probably similar deviants. Porn is more for fun than for stress relief. At least during those marathons.
 
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That's really funny but also kind of weird, they watched porn together and never got so horny they tried experimenting with each other? Not once? Fuck, i must be a slut or something cause even friends who i weren't attracted to, so long as they didn't repulse me, still ended up trying things with me in the past, several of them over the years, like, your horny, there's someone who's also horny, it's just the two of you... kinda weird nothing ever happened, even minor... like, not even 'ill rub yours and you rub mine?'...
Depends on what type of eroge. Eroge can be gameplay focused. In this case if I assume that eroges are Japanese visual novels, then most JVNs are just usually plot (romance, sol, drama, mystery, horror, etc...) with some sex scenes attached to it. I've played around 35 JVNs (mostly moeges) and I mostly skip the sex scenes.
Plus this is 2 incredibly awkward teenagers we're talking about, there's no way they have the balls to ask even if they wanted it.
 

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She's not even that insecure, either.
She hopes for a walkthrough in real life, prefers 2d over 3d (obviously a lie she tells herself as a self defense mechanism) and her biggest fear is to grow up. She is very proactive when it comes to her own little world with her small group of friends that don't mind her quirks. And of course, she falls in love with the nearest person under the delusion that things will remain the same forever in that bubble (well ,i guess she got lucky there). Rin doesn't want lo live in a bubble, Molly would only suffocate her. Rin wants to evolve and Molly is terrified of change.

If nothing changes (except for Kumon mi circular flow of time), she has a sad future waiting for her. Her friends will grow up and move on and she will be left there, stuck in her little world she put so much work into building it as a refugee from reality, watching it all go crumbling down.

Also, I was referring to a hypothetical situation where Rin overlooked the fact that Molly doesn't get her pussy wet.
Could be wrong but I feel she's not attracted because of her personality rather than looks. Yeah, she prefers the "cool girls" like Chika and Otoha but also lusts after petite bodies like Sana's and Ami's.

Now, I'm done.
 
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Random fun fact, Molly and Rin used to have late night eroge marathons with eachother, apparently:
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I took that as an example what will not happen, not what they actually did.
Or another one, I think this event is around the time when Rin left manga club for music club, right? Maybe that club have tradition to play eroge together in "homely" fashion. But Rin is no longer a member of the said club.
 
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Edit: Not to say people don't get stuck in toxic relationships. I don't consider those as "working out".
Molly repeatedly refused to respect Rin's boundaries when they weren't even dating. We need to stop pretending that relationship wouldn't be even more toxic than the one Rin's currently in.
 
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Molly repeatedly refused to respect Rin's boundaries when they weren't even dating. We need to stop pretending that relationship wouldn't be even more toxic than the one Rin's currently in.
Nah, I'd consider trying to force Rin to cut those she loves out of her life, hitting her, and lying to her, as far worse than anything Molly has done. The only thing Rin held against Molly was the selfishness, and they are still friends. Rin isn't able to judge Otoha fairly due to boobs and is being used because of it.

Toxic? Sure. More toxic? Doubtful.
 

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After the last update, I want to see Rin x Sana. Unfortunately, Sana seems to be one of the straightest characters... Their sex drives look roughly to be at the same level. If Sana was bi, it would be a match made in heaven. Poor Ayane would sleep outside practically every night. Or Futaba.

Shit. Can't think about it; otherwise, I'll be just setting myself up for disappointment since it'll never happen. A damn shame.
 

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She hopes for a walkthrough in real life, prefers 2d over 3d (obviously a lie she tells herself as a self defense mechanism) and her biggest fear is to grow up. She is very proactive when it comes to her own little world with her small group of friends that don't mind her quirks. And of course, she falls in love with the nearest person under the delusion that things will remain the same forever in that bubble (well ,i guess she got lucky there). Rin doesn't want lo live in a bubble, Molly would only suffocate her. Rin wants to evolve and Molly is terrified of change.

If nothing changes (except for Kumon mi circular flow of time), she has a sad future waiting for her. Her friends will grow up and move on and she will be left there, stuck in her little world she put so much work into building it as a refugee from reality, watching it all go crumbling down.


Could be wrong but I feel she's not attracted because of her personality rather than looks. Yeah, she prefers the "cool girls" like Chika and Otoha but also lusts after petite bodies like Sana's and Ami's.

Now, I'm done.
"She hopes for a walkthrough in real life, prefers 2d over 3d (obviously a lie she tells herself as a self defense mechanism) and her biggest fear is to grow up."

Isn't that like everyone? The prefers 2d over 3d part might even be true. She's only really showed to be attracted to Rin and probably Sensei. The rest of the time she's apparently jilling off to fictional characters. She's more 3d curious than anything.

"And of course, she falls in love with the nearest person under the delusion that things will remain the same forever in that bubble (well ,i guess she got lucky there). Rin doesn't want lo live in a bubble, Molly would only suffocate her. Rin wants to evolve and Molly is terrified of change."

Nearest person would probably be Tsuneyo, and I think Molly befriending her teacher, Noodle girl, and Yasu, shows Molly isn't exactly terrified of change. She just prefers stability, like everyone. Still, Molly literally left her home to go to Kumon-mi, as a foreigner. She's already chose to change her life in a drastic way. Not to mention, she went to Sensei about Rin cutting herself, got a job as a barista, became the president of a club at school, etc. She's now trying to change her relationship with Sensei by seducing him wearing wings. Ami is probably the girl most terrified of change, imo. Molly isn't actually stuck in a bubble.

"If nothing changes (except for Kumon mi circular flow of time), she has a sad future waiting for her. Her friends will grow up and move on and she will be left there, stuck in her little world she put so much work into building it as a refugee from reality, watching it all go crumbling down."

I mean, I don't really see Tsuneyo going anywhere, or Ami, or Rin for that matter. They all work in Kumon-mi, have family there, and don't really have any plans outside of there. I see Molly leaving Kumon-mi before any of them. She could just go back home, or become a teacher, considering she's multilingual. Kind of like Imani. Molly is also able to make costumes and stuff, so being a fashion designer isn't exactly impossible for her. Not to mention, she can lead stuff like the Manga club and all of their campaigns. Molly isn't Nodoka or Touka who's set for her future, but she can work and is intelligent enough to function outside of where she was born.

I think you're exaggerating a little when it comes to Molly. She's not Yumi, who's damn near hopeless by herself. Stealing candy and scamming kids for cash, while also being taken care of by a teenager who is taking care of her sick kid sister simultaneously. Of course, Yumi always has the Yakuza to take care of her, considering she's more or less a crime princess.

"Could be wrong but I feel she's not attracted because of her personality rather than looks. Yeah, she prefers the "cool girls" like Chika and Otoha but also lusts after petite bodies like Sana's and Ami's."

Yeah, I agree with this. Rin tends to go for the opposite of herself and not even realize it. She didn't even realize her and Chika had virtually nothing in common, until year(s) later when Sensei pointed it out. Rin and Molly are too similar for Rin's current tastes, it seems. It's probably why Rin crushed on her other mother instead of Rika. Rika was too similar to her. Albeit, perhaps this is what influenced her later tastes.
 
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