Ren'Py Lessons in Love [v0.53.0] [Selebus]

[JelF547]

Why wouldn't it? What actually happens/exists is "reality". Simple as that. Anything else is merely theory or delusion.

Because it is all the same question. How do you define actualy happens/exists?

"Real" by definition means what actually exists... what actually happens in Kumon-mi/this game, is what actually happens within this game.

So you mean that everything actualy happend in the game is "real"? Isn't it same as "what you see on-screen is real"? I told you, it is a useful one.

It's really just that simple.

It is not simple. Actualy, you haven't constructed a definition which would say that Sensei actualy exists yet.

Also, definitions of reality IRL are complex AF and require lots of ad-hoc axioms to the point when question "is something real" looses both its meaning and possibility of answer, so it would be strange if it would became simple when applied to denpa fiction.

The realy simple way is to use stupid definition and correct it from time to time

Honestly, I think you're focusing too much on seeing things, when even seeing something doesn't make it "Real" in the first place.

I am not focusing. I am suggesting the only thing I find reasonable.

You know, there is no reason to discuss reality of something at all. Theory might be true despite it's hypotesis might be not real and vice versa, because theory is true when it predicts the future (i.e. what we would see), but not when it says what is real and what is not.

But if you are going to discuss reality, you should be able to explain what do you mean by "real", because otherwise the simple answer is "nope, this is fuction, it is obviously not real". You can mean by "real" litterally everything, from "It is real if it could be IRL" to "It is real because it was said by narrator" and I can mean by "real" exact opposite thing so there is basicaly notthing to discuss unless you state what did you actualy mean by "real"

let's not lose our cool after having survived this long already

Last part is always the worst Good news no discussion would survive 0.36

It's such a big penis, so big, so very very penis.

Is that penis realy big or it is just Sensei's dellusion?

 

[Bingoogus]

Is that penis realy big or it is just Sensei's dellusion?

I cannot handle the existential blackhole of the 'what is true?' dimension, so in order to maintain my sanity, it must be a big penis. It must be big, it must be penis!

 

[JelF547]

I cannot handle the existential blackhole of the 'what is true?' dimension, so in order to maintain my sanity, it must be a big penis. It must be big, it must be penis!

Penis who?

 

[Bingoogus]

Great, now that it's only a day and a bit away, suddenly i have a glut of releases:

Where were all these 3 days ago huh? Don't these devs know how important i am and how it is their duty to provide me free entertainment at all times!? God...

 

[fdsasdf_p]

It's such a big penis, so big, so very very penis.

Penis who?

 

[DeSkel15]

Because it is all the same question. How do you define actualy happens/exists?

So you mean that everything actualy happend in the game is "real"? Isn't it same as "what you see on-screen is real"? I told you, it is a useful one.

It is not simple. Actualy, you haven't constructed a definition which would say that Sensei actualy exists yet.

Also, definitions of reality IRL are complex AF and require lots of ad-hoc axioms to the point when question "is something real" looses both its meaning and possibility of answer, so it would be strange if it would became simple when applied to denpa fiction.

The realy simple way is to use stupid definition and correct it from time to time

I am not focusing. I am suggesting the only thing I find reasonable.

You know, there is no reason to discuss reality of something at all. Theory might be true despite it's hypotesis might be not real and vice versa, because theory is true when it predicts the future (i.e. what we would see), but not when it says what is real and what is not.

But if you are going to discuss reality, you should be able to explain what do you mean by "real", because otherwise the simple answer is "nope, this is fuction, it is obviously not real". You can mean by "real" litterally everything, from "It is real if it could be IRL" to "It is real because it was said by narrator" and I can mean by "real" exact opposite thing so there is basicaly notthing to discuss unless you state what did you actualy mean by "real"

Last part is always the worst Good news no discussion would survive 0.36

Is that penis realy big or it is just Sensei's dellusion?

Hm, if you really need me to break it down then think of it like this:

• Reality is what Actually Exists.
• What Actually Exists is what defines Perception.
• What defines Perception, is Reality.

Basically: What exists for your Perception to exist, is Reality.

Those who think Perception is Reality, are ignoring that Perception is merely how one interprets Reality. Perception itself is merely a part of Reality, as are we.

In this game, what is Reality is what Sel deems it to be. We merely use the logic within it to decipher what is intended to be considered reality within.
Sensei being a pedo = logical.
Sensei being pregnant with Haruka's child = Illogical.
Sensei having reality altering dick size powers = Unclear.
Rin rolling a 5 = Damn near guaranteed.

 

[barglenarglezous]

It's been brought up before, but hasn't been discussed recently, but Maya has multiple meanings -- one of which is "that which is not," a concept from Hindu. Some aspects of the Hindu concept of Maya overlaps heavily with Paredolia. THus when I said last week that Maya was an illusion -- I wasn't entirely joking. It is very possible that Maya is something (or someone) else entirely, and Sensei was perceiving her as a normal teenage girl, and that the cliffhanger at the end of the last update was the veil being lifted from Sensei's eyes and him seeing the truth.

Under some interpretations of Maya, reality itself is an illusion, a hallucination or illusion driven by a universal subconcious concensus. White Wolf Game Studios played with this concept heavily in the 90s versions of their tabletop RPGs -- the Ravnos vampire clan could manipulate the Maya, and the core conflict of Mage: the Ascension was control over the universal subconcious concensus that defines "reality".

The more Sel leans into Paredolia, the more I think that this has some legs.

 

[Pedro4545454]

It is very possible that Maya is something (or someone) else entirely, and Sensei was perceiving her as a normal teenage girl, and that the cliffhanger at the end of the last update was the veil being lifted from Sensei's eyes and him seeing the truth.

I don't know why else this gives me so much agony now and I seriously don't know why.

 

[5A 61 68 79 6E 68 79 6B]

The final version cards 2023
A MANDATORY fix from the Ami Fix folder must be installed by everyone who has installed it before.
Rin has been corrected
Chika has been corrected
Otoha has been corrected
Sana has been corrected

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[ZathuraVentura]

The final version cards 2023
A MANDATORY fix from the Ami Fix folder must be installed by everyone who has installed it before.
Rin has been corrected
Chika has been corrected
Otoha has been corrected
Sana has been corrected

Mega

I understand these are completely different contexts, but it still feels so weird to read "X person has been corrected" without the lil angry emojis. It might be too late for me.

Also, thanks for all the hard work with the cards!

 

[JelF547]

In this game, what is Reality is what Sel deems it to be

Oh, simple, in this case everything is real

We merely use the logic within it to decipher what is intended to be considered reality within.

Sensei being a pedo = logical.
Sensei being pregnant with Haruka's child = Illogical.
Sensei having reality altering dick size powers = Unclear.
Rin rolling a 5 = Damn near guaranteed.

Do you imply that sensei being pregnant with Haruka's child cannot be "real"?

 

[DeSkel15]

It's been brought up before, but hasn't been discussed recently, but Maya has multiple meanings -- one of which is "that which is not," a concept from Hindu. Some aspects of the Hindu concept of Maya overlaps heavily with Paredolia. THus when I said last week that Maya was an illusion -- I wasn't entirely joking. It is very possible that Maya is something (or someone) else entirely, and Sensei was perceiving her as a normal teenage girl, and that the cliffhanger at the end of the last update was the veil being lifted from Sensei's eyes and him seeing the truth.

Under some interpretations of Maya, reality itself is an illusion, a hallucination or illusion driven by a universal subconcious concensus. White Wolf Game Studios played with this concept heavily in the 90s versions of their tabletop RPGs -- the Ravnos vampire clan could manipulate the Maya, and the core conflict of Mage: the Ascension was control over the universal subconcious concensus that defines "reality".

The more Sel leans into Paredolia, the more I think that this has some legs.

Ironically, in Japanese, Maya can apparently mean "Truth", "Reality", "Genuine", depending on the Kanji. Same with Maaya.

Both "Maya" and "Makinami" also happen to be the names of Japanese Warships. I can't help but wonder why Sel chose to give her the name "Maya Makinami" in particular.

 

[DeSkel15]

Oh, simple, in this case everything is real

Do you imply that sensei beingpregnant with Haruka's child cannot be "real"?

More like "nothing is real" and "everything is connected".

Also, No. I even joked about it earlier:

You know... if it turns out Sensei gave birth to Nao-chan who is his and Haruka's child, I'm going to have to sit down and contemplate life a little.

 

[JelF547]

More like "nothing is real" and "everything is connected".

Finally, definition of "real"!

 

[LoveWhiteHairedGirl]

Both "Maya" and "Makinami" also happen to be the names of Japanese Warships. I can't help but wonder why Sel chose to give her the name "Maya Makinami" in particular.

He just wanted his own shipgirl.

 

[Bingoogus]

Finally, definition of "real"!

And with that concept now defined, i immediately die.

 

[DeSkel15]

And with that concept now defined, i immediately die.

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Praise Be.

 

[Pedro4545454]

He just wanted his own shipgirl.

The thing is that even though he makes her suffer like hell she can still be that since Selly has serious problems and can do that to someone even if he likes her hahahahaha (Yes, I don't trust anything I said, I just wanted a reason to offend Selly and not make it seem like it was wrong)

 

[DeSkel15]

The thing is that even though he makes her suffer like hell she can still be that since Selly has serious problems and can do that to someone even if he likes her hahahahaha (Yes, I don't trust anything I said, I just wanted a reason to offend Selly and not make it seem like it was wrong)

Sel considers Ayane like a daughter, and she's been traumatized over and over... So, yeah, you're probably not wrong.

 

[Pedro4545454]

Sel considers Ayane like a daughter, and she's been traumatized over and over... So, yeah, you're probably not wrong.

Given this fact, you can't deny that Selly would do this, even if he likes the person hahahah