Ren'Py Lessons in Love [v0.53.0] [Selebus]

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Algorist said:
The only thing annoying me still is that I can't really sympathize, let alone empathize properly with Sensei regarding Maya's "death." Feels overblown to me. I've seen people lose lifelong, devoted partners and not devolve into a mess of Sensei's level. I guess you can chalk it up to his mental illnesses or some subconscious, ingrained response from the millions of years the various "Senseis" spent with Maya, perhaps.
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I mostly just dumb down to the fact that our manchild protagonist simply isn't ready for any hardship. He is too complacent during his time in Kumon-mi, and rarely thinks about or prepares for the worst. When the harsh reality finally comes, he's nowhere near ready. I suppose what hits Sensei extra hard is that from his perspective, he killed her and this perhaps could've all been avoided if he'd just listened. The loss of a loved one and the guilt from being both direct and indirect cause of it is pretty crushingly overwhelming even from a bystander's angle, let alone for someone who desperately needs to mentally grow up.

But it's fair to argue if the whole death of Prime Maya arc doesn't resonate; Selly has tampered the biggest constant in his universe, and apparently his delivery this time just didn't nail everyone and/or could've been done better.

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If that's the case, though, strange. If Sensei has these past influences, I don't understand why he doesn't show more attachment to someone like Yumi. Sometimes, when he has his episodes near Yumi, her outfits change quickly, as if they had met in many scenarios (they've been likely intimate as well since she also appears naked momentarily.) Does anyone remember if Sensei has proposed to anyone besides her (even as a joke?)
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Has Sensei proposed to others even if it was meant to be a joke? Yes, MAIDS.
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Though I will say that fake proposing Yumi is a lot cuter than any of my examples, love to see this tsudere blush. Sensei even later on unintentionally ships himself with her with the Yumi Arawaka shit. Shamelessly adorable.
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But back to your "has Sensei gone intimate with Yumi due to things we've seen during his episodes?" prompt; it is very difficult to prove that any of those is real. Since both Sensei and Yumi show no sign of it, assuming there is no past influence and thus no chance of Sensei attaching to Yumi because of it is currently much easier. Besides, being intimate is definitely not the key to have this wretched man feel attached to you.
 
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It’s not about Maya keeping me interested in the game, but the interactions happening actually making an impact. I had the feeling that Sensei was at least somewhat maturing throughout the chapters and there being some kind of progress. Without Maya, it’s more or less back to slice of life, but nothing matters since the cycles reset the characters and gods can change everything else at will. I haven’t played the latest update, but really, what point would there be for Akira to overcome the challenge when he could just get back to fucking around since they are just playthings to the gods that could be erased at any time?
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Because there's more going on than that. Spoilers include last update.


Himawari says way back that there is an order to what's happening, and she seems to believe there is a purpose to all of this, and that this will create something good at the end (based on how it calmed down Ayane when she explained it to her, although she herself is unable to interfere that much).
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She also seems to be from the future, and his daughter.

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But also on a lower plane than the showrunners, either because she's indeed a lower cog, or she's a visitor in all of this and thus could be kicked out.

Then we have NAO saying that HOPE, Wires and Pareidolia aren't absolute, and even they have to look up to something - meaning her (I think), in this case. Also, to a lower extent, that maybe all these entities exist, but the way Akira perceives them is up to him. Meaning that NAO hasn't really got Ami's appearance, followed by all others, and maybe even Sekai.

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But then she also admits even she is a cog in a machine, which is the hope that this is not a cycle, but a spiral. And that her opinion may just be an opinion, she's not in charge here as much as she would like to say humans are just ants to her.

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And for all people that hate Nodoka, here we go with our girl bringing hope of all things:

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Anyway, this gave me a chance to throw around a lot of stuff concerning the divine aspect of things and link it to this last update. But regardless, I think that Maya or no Maya, things will progress regardless and it will most certainly not just be slice of life - as I believe this story is going somewhere, divine things included (and maybe not being divine at all).
 
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fdsasdf_p said:
But it's fair to argue if the whole death of Prime Maya arc doesn't resonate; Selly has tampered the biggest constant in his universe, and apparently his delivery this time just didn't nail everyone and/or could've been done better.
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It would have been more appropriate if it had happened at the end of Chapter 2, TBH. Instead we got the fakeout, just to have it happen for real at the end of the next chapter, and now it just feels cheap.
 
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Algorist said:
If that's the case, though, strange. If Sensei has these past influences, I don't understand why he doesn't show more attachment to someone like Yumi. Sometimes, when he has his episodes near Yumi, her outfits change quickly, as if they had met in many scenarios (they've been likely intimate as well since she also appears naked momentarily.) Does anyone remember if Sensei has proposed to anyone besides her (even as a joke?)

The impression is that many, or at least one of these past "Senseis" have been crazy about her.
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My another crazy theory! This time is about Yumi being Akira's lover in the past loops. And with broken English as well!

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I think a bit too much about this, of course, but that's what theories are, right? We put a lot of thoughts into the mix, and some of them end up being true.
 
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LoveBlueHairedGirl said:
My another crazy theory! This time is about Yumi being Akira's lover in the past loops. And with broken English as well!

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I think a bit too much about this, of course, but that's what theories are, right? We put a lot of thoughts into the mix, and some of them end up being true.
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I mean, Yumi is definitely special - and not only because she's the hottest girl in the game. Now, personal opinions aside, I do think there is more to her.

If I recall correctly, it has been touched upon how, regardless of how "uncomfortable" her sessions with Akira may have been, they were also special to her in a way that an adult actually was paying attention to her and seeing her as able to be more than she was, instead of a waste of space. So, that she'd kiss him back in "this town has two halves", makes sense. I don't think her feelings only started after resets.

Secondly, Akira became a teacher, same as Sekai (I think she taught children though). And Yumi is shown to become a teacher, same as Akira (although she becomes a university professor). It's kinda like a staircase now that I think about, each groomed person ascending higher into the age of people they teach lol

But what I mean by that is that, even before the resets, Akira actually saw something in her and that may have led somewhere (perhaps even not sexual). And Yumi does seem to protect Akira a lot, and he seems to have a lot of blackouts with her. So yeah, you might have a point somewhere.

Also, rewatch "Neon Heart (If I close my Eyes)", from Yumi on Chapter 2. It goes into why Akira is drawn to Yumi and shows how tsundere she is about him even as early as chapter 2.
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Also, despite trying to remain objective, i hate Nodoka for the single reason of enacting sexual violence against Yumi. All the rest she does is tolerable for me in terms of the story, but yep, that was way too much. I don't even know why, it's not that different from what Kirin did to Ayane, and yet, for some reason, I can't let it go.
 
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I'm happy to see more people creating theories like this, usually people are silent, so I'm really happy to see more new people creating their theories around this, my favorite so far is Akira's and Yumi's already been on reset together.

Notice, if in the next reset Tsuneyo arrives on the roof it will end up ruining many theories because most of them are based on the pregnancy theory so we better try to find some other reason because if this is disproved it will immediately ruin many theories.
 
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Jordan369 said:
Did anyone else get a bad vibe when Sara starting talking to Sensei about being a family? You know when you're watching a horror movie and you want to yell at the character to run for their life or they're gonna die? I really thought Ami was about to snap in that scene.
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Had about the same reaction yes. It's in character for Sara, but also what the hell was she thinking lol
 
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Pedro4545454 said:
I'm happy to see more people creating theories like this, usually people are silent, so I'm really happy to see more new people creating their theories around this, my favorite so far is Akira's and Yumi's already been on reset together.

Notice, if in the next reset Tsuneyo arrives on the roof it will end up ruining many theories because most of them are based on the pregnancy theory so we better try to find some other reason because if this is disproved it will immediately ruin many theories.
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I was never interested in Tsuneyo, but then she's the daughter of Wires, gets called by him to avoid the reset party(?), apparently remembers everything all the time (just thinks it's dreams), and if that wasn't enough...

She gets visited by Sekai in Kaori form, and next thing we know she is being controlled by HOPE ??? the daughter of Wires is being controlled by HOPE inside the abandoned city (?) during Pareidolia's season? What the hell? And then she starts spouting about how HOPE will bring righteous vengeance against those that conspire to bring an eternal spring.

There's a lot I'm interested in regarding her now.
 
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If I recall correctly, it has been touched upon how, regardless of how "uncomfortable" her sessions with Akira may have been, they were also special to her in a way that an adult actually was paying attention to her and seeing her as able to be more than she was, instead of a waste of space. So, that she'd kiss him back in "this town has two halves", makes sense. I don't think her feelings only started after resets.
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But what I mean by that is that, even before the resets, Akira actually saw something in her and that may have led somewhere (perhaps even not sexual). And Yumi does seem to protect Akira a lot, and he seems to have a lot of blackouts with her. So yeah, you might have a point somewhere.
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I like this headcanon/theory. But I feel like I miss something...
 
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I like this headcanon/theory. But I feel like I miss something...
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Actual headcanon stuff, Akira talking to Wires Pareidolia about Yumi:
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Real talk now, I've been rewatching all of Yumi's events - and the amount of shit she has to endure with Akira, and yet keeps blushing and giving him chances really borders on the supernatural. Which is helped by the amount of times he blacks out with her.

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It really makes you think about how if not for Wires, or Nodoka, they'd have probably hooked up naturally anyway. Hell, given what Pareidolia showed by cycling her in different outfits while talking to him, they most likely have many times over.
 
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