Ren'Py Lessons in Love [v0.53.0] [Selebus]

[Moonflare]

What's a wishing well you're all talking about?

The cycle of resets seem to happen inside of something called the Wishing Well, or could be that it's the name of that mechanic. Basically, it's a place where you can become whatever you wish and do whatever you want.

There is a recurring audio narration that states that if Akira looks down into the bottom of the well, he sees himself. It could mean that the real Akira is at the room of the clocks (at the bottom of the well), after jumping to his suicide (diving into the well). There are also some passages about him having to learn to climb out of it, while some gods tend to encourage him to simply embrace it.

Weird/Happy Ami, that appears during resets, has writings on her that say that the wishing well is a place where you wash yourself of your dreams - that can also be interpreted in the light of what I said, or something else.

Seeing as how the well seems to be central to the narrative, it's unlikely we'll receive a definitive answer much before the end.

 

[Nadekai]

The cycle of resets seem to happen inside of something called the Wishing Well, or could be that it's the name of that mechanic. Basically, it's a place where you can become whatever you wish and do whatever you want.

There is a recurring audio narration that states that if Akira looks down into the bottom of the well, he sees himself. It could mean that the real Akira is at the room of the clocks (at the bottom of the well), after jumping to his suicide (diving into the well). There are also some passages about him having to learn to climb out of it, while some gods tend to encourage him to simply embrace it.

Weird/Happy Ami, that happens during resets, has writings on her that say that the wishing well is a place where you wash yourself of your dreams - that can also be interpreted in the light of what I said, or something else.

Seeing as how the well seems to be central to the narrative, it's unlikely we'll receive a definitive answer much before the end.

Where do we learn that Sensei committed suicide?

 

[Moonflare]

Where do we learn that Sensei committed suicide?

There is a high possibility he jumped off the roof during the intro sequence of the game, that is revisited during the Happy Event Baby Finches - and reinforced by Makoto doing the same during the events of Bluejay (this one we actually see happening). Lastly, it is said a few times that he is currently neither alive nor dead.

Maybe he didn't commit suicide since we don't see it properly, but so far it has been somewhat hinted.

 

[Nadekai]

The cycle of resets seem to happen inside of something called the Wishing Well, or could be that it's the name of that mechanic. Basically, it's a place where you can become whatever you wish and do whatever you want.

There is a recurring audio narration that states that if Akira looks down into the bottom of the well, he sees himself. It could mean that the real Akira is at the room of the clocks (at the bottom of the well), after jumping to his suicide (diving into the well). There are also some passages about him having to learn to climb out of it, while some gods tend to encourage him to simply embrace it.

Weird/Happy Ami, that appears during resets, has writings on her that say that the wishing well is a place where you wash yourself of your dreams - that can also be interpreted in the light of what I said, or something else.

Seeing as how the well seems to be central to the narrative, it's unlikely we'll receive a definitive answer much before the end.

Speaking of wishing well, why is Maya and Ayane able to reset with us?


Is wired one (USER2) actually our ally?

 

[Nadekai]

There is a high possibility he jumped off the roof during the intro sequence of the game, that is revisited during the Happy Event Baby Finches - and reinforced by Makoto doing the same during the events of Bluejay (this one we actually see happening). Lastly, it is said a few times that he is currently neither alive nor dead.

Maybe he didn't commit suicide since we don't see it properly, but so far it has been somewhat hinted.

Also, I still don't understand why Makocchi jumped...

 

[Moonflare]

Speaking of wishing well, why is Maya and Ayane able to reset with us?


Is wired one (USER2) actually our ally?

Maya says she's been resetting without Akira for a very long time (in the sense that he's wiped after one or two resets and she always remains). So in her perspective, Akira remaining for so long is the new thing. NAO seems to imply that him getting to know more about his past is also a new thing, and maybe that's why he's been able to remain (but it is also implied that Pareidolia and, perhaps Hiwamari, have been conspiring to make that happen).

We don't know why Ayane remained, that's a new thing from Maya's perspective too. There is the pregnant theory, sacrifice theory, god's chosen theory and roof theory. We just don't know yet.

USER2/Wires doesn't seem to be benevolent as much as he's just calm. His story is that he refused to leave his solitude, and his feet became roots that went out of his room and connected everywhere. Through the wires, he controlled everyone, but didn't ever abuse this power because he would only interfere when strictly necessary to maintain order (because that was written into his code), and so people just stopped believing in him.

He didn't seem to mind, and remained as he was, now much weaker and dying and only able to control the ones that willingly gave themselves to him. Since he seems to only interfere to preserve order, and would not go out of his way to force his will, it could be argued that he's the least intent on fucking with Akira, but he can't help much either.

That somewhat changed during update 0.40, where he seems to have chosen to take a more active role - maybe as a reaction to Pareidolia, that is doing so much to further his own plans.

 

[barglenarglezous]

There is a high possibility he jumped off the roof during the intro sequence of the game, that is revisited during the Happy Event Baby Finches - and reinforced by Makoto doing the same during the events of Bluejay (this one we actually see happening). Lastly, it is said a few times that he is currently neither alive nor dead.

Maybe he didn't commit suicide since we don't see it properly, but so far it has been somewhat hinted.

What's unclear is if that was OG Sensei, or simply a previous loop of Sensei ending one of his cycles.

 

[Moonflare]

Also, I still don't understand why Makocchi jumped...

What we know is that when Akira tried to tell her about the resets, that triggered something in her mind. She says that she saw a light and that caused her to choose (or be compelled) to jump.

Later, she said that by doing so she instead was completely enveloped by darkness and (somewhat) makes references to the the wishing well. I went into this in a previous post that talked about Akira's eyes.

My take is that she understood the nature of the resets and had an insight on how to break free. But many other things could have happened. What's also certain is that it didn't work, actually it turned out very bad for her.

EDIT: As an added note, it could be argued that Wires was the one that fixed her (after the reset, by doing a proper job with her memories - we don't know who brought her back in the moment it happened, and left her with the memories of the suicide until the reset), but I don't know if that matters.

 

[TheSeedy1]

I'll take "Metaphors that arouse me" for 400 please Trebek

Spoiler: Chapter 4 Touka Spoiler

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[LessonsInDissonance]

Honestly I don't care about these gods and their shit I just want to plap every single female tsukioka alive

 

[TheSeedy1]

Honestly I don't care about these gods and their shit I just want to plap every single female tsukioka alive

The whole god shtick is honestly the worst part of it all too - they're all selfish dickheads so far with whatever fucking goals they keep slamming down on the table. I hope the ultimate arc is that Sensei is somehow just breaking everyone free of being controlled by them in some form. Who knows though.

 

[Moonflare]

Dadzoned, why god, why

Spoiler: Sketchy Basement

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Someone please send Rin like the full collection of Sekai's poems on incest right the fucking now.

 

[TheSeedy1]

Oh no >_< Not Karin. Akira you shitbrain.

 

[Xiondingens]

The whole god shtick is honestly the worst part of it all too - they're all selfish dickheads so far

That is actually a good point. Why should pay any attention to them and try to keep them apart? They are all dicks! Feels a bit like we have four chaos gods, but they are all khorne.

Edit: And for everyone who doesnt get it. Khorne is the blood god. Virginity blood. That is all they want.

 

[TheSeedy1]

That is actually a good point. Why should pay any attention to them and try to keep them apart? They are all dicks! Feels a bit like we have four chaos gods, but they are all khorne.

If anything I see flashes of Tzeentch in Pareidoia or whoever the fudge that one is named. And whoever the third god is I don't feel like pops up enough or I just missed them getting a name. Wires I feel is...oddly quiet so far but god do I DETEST Hope.

Also, oh god this decision with Otoka about pic swapping. OH NO.

 

[Xiondingens]

If anything I see flashes of Tzeentch in Pareidoia or whoever the fudge that one is named.

I... i have no idea. They all blend together so much.

And whoever the third god is I don't feel like pops up enough or I just missed them getting a name. Wires I feel is...oddly quiet so far but god do I DETEST Hope.

You payed more attention then i did. I mean i remember something about wires, but that feels like it was ages ago, like second reset or so. And hope? Is that yasu's god?

Also, oh god this decision with Otoka about pic swapping. OH NO.

At least it is totally in character.

 

[TheSeedy1]

You payed more attention then i did. I mean i remember something about wires, but that feels like it was ages ago, like second reset or so. And hope? Is that yasu's god?

Yeah - I feel like Hope is the primary antagonist atm and the god we deal with way too much. Always the one we see in a lot of the fucked up moments with the 2 angels, etc.

Gotta save Yasu from that fucker. Wires definitely feels like he's just been kind of slumming - I guess it may be safe to assume Para is the 3rd? I dunno I'm still unclear about their role beyond this always feel like we're almost in some kind of fucked up simulation of life rather than ACTUAL real life.

 

[Xiondingens]

Gotta save Yasu from that fucker.

I dont know. What if he was everything that still kept her going when her whole life turned to shit? Yeah, i know that is a big stretch especially when she already at the doctor looked like some of those supernatural fuckers was playing with her like a sock puppet. But i will at least wait until we know more about all that stuff that happened in her past, before i decide how to think of her god.

Not that i have high hopes we will get any more details besides something to shock people.

 

[TheSeedy1]

I dont know. What if he was everything that still kept her going when her whole life turned to shit? Yeah, i know that is a big stretch especially when she already at the doctor looked like some of those supernatural fuckers was playing with her like a sock puppet. But i will at least wait until we know more about all that stuff that happened in her past, before i decide how to think of her god.

Not that i have high hopes we will get any more details besides something to shock people.

I get that - I don't know enough about her yet but I feel like even if he did save her or something, now he's basically undone that by turning her into a fucked up fanatic zombie who can't even interact. How will she convert people if she can barely converse w/o weirding them out? And the most times she seems human is due to Touka's influence, not Hope.

 

[Moonflare]

If anything I see flashes of Tzeentch in Pareidoia or whoever the fudge that one is named. And whoever the third god is I don't feel like pops up enough or I just missed them getting a name. Wires I feel is...oddly quiet so far but god do I DETEST Hope.

Also, oh god this decision with Otoka about pic swapping. OH NO.

If you're already this far into the game, you have been seeing a lot of Pareidolia (3rd god), he's also known as the concerned, or the dark. For instance, the thing with Karin which you just mentioned was Pareidolia - it's his season during chapter 4. As for his name, Pareidolia means seeing meaning where there is none. Like when you look at clouds and see shapes, or look at three points and somehow make out a face.

Definitely don't bother though, you'll come to understand a lot more about the gods if you ever replay. Things can be tough to follow on the first time.