Ren'Py Lessons in Love [v0.53.0] [Selebus]

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To be honest I am yet to play the last 3 or 4 updates prior to this due to work and other commitments but seeing what some have said regarding events in this latest update and how they feel incongruous with the narritive thus far, is it not possible that the memories/consequences of this event could be... deleted (for want of a better term) at the next reset anyway?

I feel like I remember there being precedent for that earlier in the story.
 
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Bingoogus said:
Not sure that's what has everyone hung up, it's more that the game hasn't exactly been about making them worse, we haven't reached the dark part of the game supposedly, this is still the harem phase, if we were in the dark phase and this scene popped up i don't think anyone would be struggling with it in a narrative sense.
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Has Sel flat-out said we're not in the Dark phase yet? Or are people still insisting we're still in the harem phase because there are still girls he hasn't fucked yet? Because that was an asinine argument when it was first put forward, and it's just as asinine now.

It's been pretty evident since Halloween that we're on a downhill slide, thematically, so pushing Io onto a death spiral doesn't feel out of place at all.
 
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Bingoogus said:
The thing is though is that there really is a 'right' choice based on the information we have at hand, until the game is complete we can't know 100% but we've been punished before for missed scenes and the game makes a point multiple times about how our choices are just illusions and don't matter and the main one is simply that it's missed content, missing content, not different content, Selly doesn't split the game for A and B, there's just A or nothing, at most a comment on how we fucked up not choosing A. The only intelligent option for any player at this point in the game's development is to always assume the green path is the intended path until some evidence comes along to challenge that, and this latest Io scene is the first and only potential indicator for that possibility we have so far and as for making anything of it... we just have to wait and see.
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Selebus told once that green path is about always taking worst possible decisions. As far as it likely obviously not correct, it is substantional.

Also, I am feeling a bit lonely with my decision to not rape Io. I made it more out of curiosity though, I expected that there is no actual choise at all
 
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barglenarglezous said:
Has Sel flat-out said we're not in the Dark phase yet? Or are people still insisting we're still in the harem phase because there are still girls he hasn't fucked yet? Because that was an asinine argument when it was first put forward, and it's just as asinine now.

It's been pretty evident since Halloween that we're on a downhill slide, thematically, so pushing Io onto a death spiral doesn't feel out of place at all.
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The Dark-Dark route starts after Chapter 5 by the recentish word of Sel.
 
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Bingoogus said:
Well that can't be true, being a bad homie causes you to miss scenes and i'd find it very easy to argue being a bad homie is the worst choice to make.
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Scenes or events? I thought bad homie only changed dialogue (you get to kiss Rin if you're a good homie, but that's just a scene within an event). For instance, in this update we find out what happens with the trading nudes choice with Otoha (amazing outcome btw). But the event happens regardless.

Edit: I think it would be cool if at the end of LiL there was a counter of how much of a jackass Akira was when he had a choice, and that unlocked a secret choice at the end or something. But that's probably my rpg mentality at play here.
 
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Bingoogus said:
Well that can't be true, being a bad homie causes you to miss scenes and i'd find it very easy to argue being a bad homie is the worst choice to make.
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I think Sel said a while ago that """"canon"""" route, the one Akira as a character in his head would go down to, is 100% except bad homie, but it was a while ago.
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Scenes or events? I thought bad homie only changed dialogue (you get to kiss Rin if you're a good homie, but that's just a scene within an event). For instance, in this update we find out what happens with the trading nudes choice with Otoha (amazing outcome btw). But the event happens regardless.
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You lose some events, yes.
 
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btw, we've talked a lot about the Io stuff already, but what happened still was, at the very least, not as bad as what could have happened. What no one has said anything about yet is regarding Imani, and I personally was not expecting that fucked up ass story.

Like, I was uncomfortable about the Io scene obviously, but somehow the Imani stuff made me feel worse? (maybe cause I was anticipating the Io stuff but not the Imani one), and it's sort of unexpected because not only we didn't watch it happen, but she even skipped the most disgusting parts, and I still was fucked in the head after it.

I don't even know what to say about it. Maybe there's nothing to say after all. I really liked the update overall, but now that I think about it there's a lot of fucked up extremely dark shit in it.

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Bingoogus said:
I wonder if that Noriko scene was just Nao being Nao or if it's setup for Noriko being the one to restore Maya Prime... and maybe the experience will lead to her to the roof and joining the RAS...
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Why couldn't it be both? Also, Noriko is in kind of ideal position to be literally sacrificed, and we do known that to return someone we should sacrifice somebody of equal value. In a roundabout way, her value is equal to Maya's
 
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Well, that was painful and disturbing to read.
Didn't get this big idea of fuck/borderline rape a girl into loving sex. Hard to guess how their relationship will continue to develop, given how different consequences both choices lead to. So far the game hasn't seemed particularly variable, so the consequences of the choices should lead to a close outcome?
 
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