Ren'Py Lessons in Love [v0.53.0] [Selebus]

[Moonflare]

question how traumatic is the build up towards the green or the red path?

Red path is just missing stuff, so there's no trauma. I guess there's "trauma" in being a dick to Rin, but that's the outlier. Selebus can't program for shit and (as it is in the current build of LiL) green path should be the one path anyway. This is supposed to be a game that deals with trauma, the player doesn't have enough agency to be their own thing, so yeah, green path has loads of trauma. But so does the rest of the game. Can't really go further without spoilers.

Spoiler: on the mechanics of choice

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I'll end by saying that to this date "Stomachache" is the one most traumatic event in terms of general reception, and that's in the green path. But I'll also personally say that "Stomachache" is one of, if not the best event in the game - and kind of the reason as to why this game exists in the first place, aka to depict and discuss trauma in a way that few pieces of work can. It'd be an absolute shame to miss it (or to miss anything for that matter).

Can someone help me with the last event of Molly? I keep missing the event

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*How not to miss events: There are A LOT of flags being invoked, including one for Futaba which will fail a lot of events if not present. It happens during "The one with all the sextoys" and it needs Futaba Lust 40. The next one happens during Futaba's event, needing Molly's lust 10. If you got the two of them, then, and only then, Tsubasa's event will trigger.

Other than that, Kirin's blackmail will be checked leading to a difference in dialogue, as well as multiple calls for Tsukasa's route having been taken. The "amifingered" flag will change her conversation with Niki in the backstage. Most importantly however is a Himawari variation that needs Ayane affection over 3k. This happens during "Post nut clarity":

 

[chikipiki]

Can someone help me with the last event of Molly? I keep missing the event

set molly_lust to 10 using console/URM

 

[Fidra_Esca71]

Thank you all

 

[joryuken]

Red path is just missing stuff, so there's no trauma. I guess there's "trauma" in being a dick to Rin, but that's the outlier. Selebus can't program for shit and (as it is in the current build of LiL) green path should be the one path anyway. This is supposed to be a game that deals with trauma, the player doesn't have enough agency to be their own thing, so yeah, green path has loads of trauma. But so does the rest of the game. Can't really go further without spoilers.

Spoiler: on the mechanics of choice

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I'll end by saying that to this date "Stomachache" is the one most traumatic event in terms of general reception, and that's in the green path. But I'll also personally say that "Stomachache" is one of, if not the best event in the game - and kind of the reason as to why this game exists in the first place, aka to depict and discuss trauma in a way that few pieces of work can. It'd be an absolute shame to miss it (or to miss anything for that matter).

Click on the post to jump to the full 0.46 triggers if needed.

you are magnificent moonflare, now i have an actual reason to replay the broken shit this game is

 

[DeanNoriko]

Forgive me for going off-topic but just want to remind people who haven't watched it yet (or did when it aired) that you have until Friday to (re-)watch the first season of Severance, as that's when season 2 finally comes out.

If you haven't heard of it yet, it's an excellent show, very well written, high production quality, very talented actors.
I recommend it here since it has some overlap in terms of themes (no, there is no teenager harem or wizards), mainly overcoming trauma, mind fuckery/amnesia, a dark mystery, religion, crazy shit happening every so often and an aggressive red head.

It's on Apple TV + but we're on a piracy forum so I'm sure you'll figure out different ways to watch it if needed.

 

[hopeisdead6969]

Now that I’ve played through the first couple of Yumi events in my newest playthrough, I’d like to post a few thoughts.

Spoiler: Yumi Spoliers

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[Moonflare]

The real endgame waifu is finally unveiled:

 

[Bingoogus]

The real endgame waifu is finally unveiled:
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Bruh, it's common knowledge that Desk-chan is best girl...

 

[aramaug]

I found something mildly interesting: there are a few times that dialogue is redacted in the game, but can actually be seen in comments in the script itself. I wouldn't be surprised if this was already known, but a rudimentary thread search didn't turn up anything.

Spoiler: No One Can See Us

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Spoiler: Zero Friction

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Spoiler: Goodnight

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The last one is somewhat interesting to me, since it confirms that Sara told the truth when she said that her "hallucinations" stopped at some point - but now they've started again and she's hiding that fact.

I wonder if there's a reason that Selebus chose these three scenes in particular out of all of the many instances of redacted dialogue. Is this related to the self-referential narrative of the game Lessons in Love as it exists within the story? (probably not)

Finally, here's a fun little Easter egg that also involves a comment.

Spoiler: Level One

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I'm pretty sure these are the only interesting comments in the files, I searched for them after stumbling across the one in "Goodnight".

 

[VoidExile]

Day 33 character count 19288.

Spoiler: Day 458-471, some reactions, thoughts and questions

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Spoiler: Tierlist

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[elricsecret]

I found something mildly interesting: there are a few times that dialogue is redacted in the game, but can actually be seen in comments in the script itself. I wouldn't be surprised if this was already known, but a rudimentary thread search didn't turn up anything.

Spoiler: No One Can See Us

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Spoiler: Zero Friction

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Spoiler: Goodnight

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The last one is somewhat interesting to me, since it confirms that Sara told the truth when she said that her "hallucinations" stopped at some point - but now they've started again and she's hiding that fact.

I wonder if there's a reason that Selebus chose these three scenes in particular out of all of the many instances of redacted dialogue. Is this related to the self-referential narrative of the game Lessons in Love as it exists within the story? (probably not)

Finally, here's a fun little Easter egg that also involves a comment.

Spoiler: Level One

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I'm pretty sure these are the only interesting comments in the files, I searched for them after stumbling across the one in "Goodnight".

My theory about sara's son is..

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[hopeisdead6969]

My theory about sara's son is..

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Wasn’t he a stabbing victim? Though I don’t quite remember when it’s talked about. But I’m pretty sure it wasn’t suicide. But as for gods talking to all of the Sakakibaras, it seems likely, yeah.

 

[alteros]

does using URM trigger the cheater flag? I'd probably only use it for the 3000 ayane lust things because that sounds ridiculous

 

[shmurfer]

I find it interesting that Rin is somewhat disappointed when he chooses Molly. I wonder if Rin has an internal battle about it because she's not attracted to Molly and she thought maybe she would win over Molly or something. I dunno, her look doesn't explain much else.

It's explained in the dialogue. Rin's face is more neutral immediately after the choice (while maya's face drops a little immediately) until she mentions the talks she'd had with Sensei where she's given up on IRL love. There's a little guilt there.

I wish Maya's reaction to being chosen would have been less toxic and more everything else.

Maya's whole deal during all the resets has been trying to lay low and get the Sensei's and other girls to ignore her. 'You're' putting an annoying amount of spotlight on her even if things are already off the rails.

 

[SlidingSubject]

Spoiler: Day 458-471, some reactions, thoughts and questions

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Oh me. Oh my. Oh machine gun. A relevant image for you.

Spoiler: Both now and in a thousand days

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Also, yeah, when Rin goes down bad for someone, she goes down bad HARD.

 

[shmurfer]

Wasn’t he a stabbing victim? Though I don’t quite remember when it’s talked about. But I’m pretty sure it wasn’t suicide. But as for gods talking to all of the Sakakibaras, it seems likely, yeah.

Yes, he was walking home and was just attacked. It's like Sana's second to last Ch2 event where it's explained.

does using URM trigger the cheater flag? I'd probably only use it for the 3000 ayane lust things because that sounds ridiculous

Not inherently, URM itself will never trigger cheater flags. Now if you make a change that Sel suspects to be URM only (Or gets lazily anal about certain stats being too high too quickly) nothing's stopping him for putting a check for that during a random update.

Unless you're committing to editing the value to 3000 and keeping it at least that high, you should probably just read the dialogue, then roll back to what you'd normally get. You're much more likely to get hit by a cheater check if you have flags for event paths that you lack the flags to have reached in the first place.

So far the only uses of the cheater flag I know of are actually using the cheats in the cheat menu. There were mentions of it being set the Ch1 Himawari event but those turned out to only be if you had edited your stats using the cheats to view the option in the first place.

 

[fdsasdf_p]

I found something mildly interesting: there are a few times that dialogue is redacted in the game, but can actually be seen in comments in the script itself. I wouldn't be surprised if this was already known, but a rudimentary thread search didn't turn up anything.

Spoiler: No One Can See Us

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Spoiler: Zero Friction

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Spoiler: Goodnight

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The last one is somewhat interesting to me, since it confirms that Sara told the truth when she said that her "hallucinations" stopped at some point - but now they've started again and she's hiding that fact.

I wonder if there's a reason that Selebus chose these three scenes in particular out of all of the many instances of redacted dialogue. Is this related to the self-referential narrative of the game Lessons in Love as it exists within the story? (probably not)

Finally, here's a fun little Easter egg that also involves a comment.

Spoiler: Level One

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I'm pretty sure these are the only interesting comments in the files, I searched for them after stumbling across the one in "Goodnight".

This is pretty cool! Too bad Selly didn't do the same for Noriko's bean spilling, Niki's massive redacted dialogue, and the mysterious severed connection during Yasu's flashback. The first two are fine. We have a vague idea about what Noriko was talking about, and we have a clear idea about what Niki was doing there; the surprises here won't be big if present. However, I would really want to know the sweet specifics regarding what Touka disclosed that warranted a connection severed.

Spoiler: Loxosceles Reclusa

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Spoiler: What it Takes to Move Forward

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Spoiler: An Apple Each Day

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Or, maybe it was not the information Touka was relaying, but instead it was the act of "wasting time" on HOPE's disciple that prompted the connection severed, as it is apparent that there was a divine wrestling happening here. Still, getting more details and some endorsed confirmations would be great too, especially considering the fact that what happened in An Apple Each Day was a censoring Sensei himself was acutely aware of (iirc also the only one) instead of the usual Sensei mentally blocking it out or censoring intended for the viewers.

I am guessing Selly only did these during his early days then changed his mind, and/or only did these for something that wasn't going to be too much of a reveal. Otherwise every time we see a shit ton of underscores we will immediately know where Selly buries his secret stash and I bet he hates that.

 

[elricsecret]

Wasn’t he a stabbing victim? Though I don’t quite remember when it’s talked about. But I’m pretty sure it wasn’t suicide. But as for gods talking to all of the Sakakibaras, it seems likely, yeah.

oh mb I completely forgot about that. Thanks for the reminder.
Has anyone developed a good theory about who might have stabbed Sara's son and why?

 

[LoveWhiteHairedGirl]

Honestly I've grown to dislike light pollution, even tho I don't spend much time outside and even tho I don't really look up too much, it's still mildly annoying when I look up and see a couple tiny dots here and there. Maybe that's normal that you can actually see anything at all, but I kinda wish I could look up and see gas formations and thousands of stars instead of like 5-20 or whatever it is here. How are you gonna develop an interest for star gazing when there are barely no stars to be seen, huh?

Same here. Let's move to forest together.

And I feel like you need a bit of Genshin lore knowledge to understand Futaba's choice... Ganyu chocking a monster to death because her hips are too wide.

god damn it, I forgot about this, lmao

Yeah, I'm lost on this one. Any input?

Well, it won't spoil anything, but Rin will always have outfits that is hugging her figure very much.

And answer to another dude:

oh mb I completely forgot about that. Thanks for the reminder.
Has anyone developed a good theory about who might have stabbed Sara's son and why?

I think it is not important to know who was that because why would we care about WHO did this and WHY. The important thing that he is dead now. Nothing more.

 

[hopeisdead6969]

Has anyone developed a good theory about who might have stabbed Sara's son and why?

Spoiler: Chapter 4 Spoiler

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