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Antosha

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I’m gonna use this as a segue to share my general feelings about Nodoka.

She is simply a natural disaster that is better to avoid than to confront. If you somehow managed to learn a positive lesson from an unpleasant encounter with her, you should thank your ability to learn, not her.
(I became a lot less bratty after breaking my leg during my early 20s, but I am not about praising any comminuted fracture anytime soon)

With all these being said, however, Matador was her one and only human moment and I am not letting anyone take that from her. No matter how all-time biased I am toward Yumi and no matter how out of proportion Nodoka’s revenge might be considered as, Nodoka had an understandable human incentive there, and that’s all we asked but she failed to deliver a convincing one most of the time.
Again, fair. Matador was at least an actual response to something someone else had done (Yumi’s bullying of Futaba), instead of just being Nodoka inflicting the games in her head on other people (cf, everything else she does).

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Without saying what awaits, does this check out for Nodoka?
Just about, for me at least.

“Extremely eccentric” seems a bit generous. ;)

trouble empathizing and… a dysfunctional moral compass

Also, it’s difficult to tell, even much later, whether she’s actively autistic (or narcissistic) and amoral or the voices in her head (which we do learn more about) are just really loud and drown out almost everything that’s happening to anyone else.
 
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Again, fair. Matador was at least an actual response to something someone else had done (Yumi’s bullying of Futaba), instead of just being Nodoka inflicting the games in her head on other people (cf, everything else she does).

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What Nodoka did was by all means not a "retribution", such that she openly told you she revenged regardless of "the victim want her to or not." Her surrogate revenge was a well-conceived offend to Yumi's dignity that only makes sense in her mindset and values.

Which I mean, her biggest flaw from my opinion is that she often saw others simply as one may called "raw vectors to which her effort may be applied." It works well on people who she considered as friends and her initial interaction with Akira along with her other three friends was a great example that she could utiltize manipulate talent to benefit others. As for those she deemed worthless or ill-disposed, well she basically treated them as abjected worms. It's the least human incentive here in Matador since she didn't treat Yumi as another being but a puppet to toy with. Her sexual assault really caught me off guard at that moment. I might say she is eccentric, conceited and mostly well-reasoned one but never did I imagine anything like that.

Despite that, my Yumi declined her offer as a passive puppet and decided to trust her best friend was the greatest surprise both to me and Nodoka that actually led to that Nodoka standing alone bewildered at the twist. To which I must applaud to, Yumi, you did the right choice. This game has too many inevitabilities and cycles that characters incured to themselves. You can't let others define you, even if it's a happy illusion.
 

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Which I mean, her biggest flaw from my opinion is that she often saw others simply as one may called "raw vectors to which her effort may be applied." It works well on people who she considered as friends and her initial interaction with Akira along with her other three friends was a great example that she could utiltize manipulate talent to benefit others.
Yeah. Which is why I'm not sure -- even after the most recent reset -- whether Nodoka actually considers other human beings to be real. (And hey--the characters she's interacting with aren't real. They're characters in a very strange VN. So's she.)

And whether Futaba, Akira, or... whoever her other friends are consider her manipulations to be beneficial or not is still a real unanswered question. I don't think Futaba for one feels that way.


Despite that, my Yumi declined her offer as a passive puppet and decided to trust her best friend was the greatest surprise both to me and Nodoka that actually led to that Nodoka standing alone bewildered at the twist. To which I must applaud to, Yumi, you did the right choice. This game has too many inevitabilities and cycles that characters incured to themselves. You can't let others define you, even if it's a happy illusion.
Agreed. :)
 

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Finally finished .46 and I know this will be unpopular, but what we've done to Chika is like 300x worse than what happened with Io to me.


Also I don't know if this has been said anywhere else, but I find it kind of interesting that neither Ami nor Maya have experienced a full Harem yet. Both of them say that they've had a threesome with everybody from the class, but no mention of orgies or the like.

Also, am I crazy for thinking Nu-Maya will eventually become the Maya we meet at the start of the game? In a very Dark like way?
 

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Just realized that rather than having to choose between Good and Bad Uncle, I can just skip "I Really Want to Stay at Your House" entirely. It's not a requirement for anything, even other Noriko events. Main Events, it's only a requirement for a Maya event that is itself not required for anything. The question is whether or not I actually want to DO that. Idk if this meets the criteria of events I'd normally skip because this actually does advance Noriko and Akira's relationship.

Edit: Wait if Noriko gets an actual invite event, this one is gonna be in front of it so you'll have to get it out of the way, damn.
 

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Without saying what awaits, does this check out for Nodoka?
More or less. (I've attempted to keep things spoiler free, while acknowledging where you are.)

Keep in mind that one of her early events has her trying to protect the girls from Sensei:
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Then later feeling uncomfortable and wishing Sensei would have came back so that she could apologize for making him uncomfortable:
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(Otoha called this more or less, showing that she actually knows Nodoka quite well.)

Nodoka really does seem to be the overly protective awkward type. She also seems to take responsibility for things involving her friends, whether she should or not.

As Nodoka has put it:
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Albeit, I'd add that she's perfectly willing to be a "bad girl" to do it (as shown with Yumi). She's someone who will play the bad guy with little regrets, and she'd probably consider the consequences worth it.
 

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It’s stuff like this reminds me of how much hots I have for Rika; her hairstyle, her boobs, her tattoo, even her chaotic personality. Muah.

She for sure is probably going to be an awful coworker and/or partner, but the dick wants whoever the dick wants.
 

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I’m not sure what exactly you’re referencing here, but referring to someone by their preferred gender term is not nonsense.
Eh, don't jump the gun, I think what Void's asking for is clarification on how to refer to Sel.

Also, I'm tired of this they and them nonsense. Is the dev male?
I kiiiiiinda think so based on some memory of a post, but I'd be open to being proven right or wrong or whether there hasn't been any specific mention of it.
 
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Interesting tidbit:
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When Kirin brings Akira back to karaoke for confronting him about Karin, Akira starts acting weird and the blood from Ami's murder comes back to the window.

Mind you, when he's there with Karin there's no blood on the window, nor Sekai talking to him - just the Old One.
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Just from these two, it would suggest that Sekai is related to the blood/corruption. Pareidolia is just there for both since he's inside of Akira's head. Further evidence of blood being related to corruption, and thus possibly Sekai is found on Paper city.
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This could all be nothing and just Selebus choosing which scary thing he'll throw at the background, but it could also be something, idk.
 
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