Ren'Py Lessons in Love [v0.53.0] [Selebus]

[LoveWhiteHairedGirl]

Btw speaking of Nodoka there is something that actually makes me angry about her that hasnt even directly to do with her. And that is that Futaba acts more and more like she completely forgive what she did to her. Which just isnt earned. Nodoka didnt do anything that would lead even slowly over time to Futaba forgive her for the book. And she basically still does. Why even introduce this Sel when you cant even be bothered to use it for anything but a single drama event and some reference here and there?
I mean maybe if she would forget about it and so he would use it as part of the time fuckery, or maybe some god playing with memories. But that aint either what he is doing. It was references just this update again.
So why is Futuba still hanging out with that bitch?

It really makes no sense. I actually wouldnt even be surprised if she would even be part of the next crappy Nodokathon. Just to really rub it in how there is zero build up to it and that it is just there to assasniate character after character for some quick fetish fuel.

Tbh, Futaba is spineless person

I will never again be able to look at Kirin without noticing just how circular her eyes really are.

Huh? What?

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Hm, I wonder what does he mean about Yumi. Is that because some people forgot she's bully and that her parents are members of yakuza? Or is that because she's the only one who beat the shit out of other people? Or what? Is she going to be another crazy character like Chika? Well, Chika indeed infested her if you remember... But I think it will be the same "I want Akira all for myself" in a sense Makoto wants him, not Ami way. But imagine if a theory about her being a previous "special girl" like Ayane is true, then if Yumi will unlock these memories, she will be selfish as fuck and will want him all for herself, thinking she is the special one now. It'll make her a huge bitch, yeah.
Anyway, I am interested what will happen next. Let's see how Sel will ruin her.

 

[Jeraviel]

Spoiler: Nodokathon 2

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Spoiler: Nodoka

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Spoiler: Character assassination or alteration?

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I was gonna write some more about my last topic, but it has been 2 hours since I started this comment, so good night

 

[SlidingSubject]

Hm, I wonder what does he mean about Yumi. Is that because some people forgot she's bully and that her parents are members of yakuza? Or is that because she's the only one who beat the shit out of other people? Or what? Is she going to be another crazy character like Chika? Well, Chika indeed infested her if you remember... But I think it will be the same "I want Akira all for myself" in a sense Makoto wants him, not Ami way. But imagine if a theory about her being a previous "special girl" like Ayane is true, then if Yumi will unlock these memories, she will be selfish as fuck and will want him all for herself, thinking she is the special one now. It'll make her a huge bitch, yeah.

The game is pretty much the embodiment of "this is why we can't have nice things", so the only thing left to do is wait to see how Sel drags Yumi down to Nodoka's level.

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Anything you want to share with the class?

 

[fdsasdf_p]

Though I do wish to never see another Nodokathon ever gain, there ARE more things done right in Nodokathon2 compared to the first one (alas, there are also plenty of things that remain stupid...)

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[SlidingSubject]

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I get the feeling both of these correlate. Her secondary objective is to see how trauma persists, which is why the all-female sexfest is a thing, and her primary is to, as mentioned before, to break Sensei's barriers.

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[jclark1337]

Btw speaking of Nodoka there is something that actually makes me angry about her that hasnt even directly to do with her. And that is that Futaba acts more and more like she completely forgive what she did to her. Which just isnt earned. Nodoka didnt do anything that would lead even slowly over time to Futaba forgive her for the book. And she basically still does. Why even introduce this Sel when you cant even be bothered to use it for anything but a single drama event and some reference here and there?
I mean maybe if she would forget about it and so he would use it as part of the time fuckery, or maybe some god playing with memories. But that aint either what he is doing. It was references just this update again.
So why is Futuba still hanging out with that bitch?

It really makes no sense. I actually wouldnt even be surprised if she would even be part of the next crappy Nodokathon. Just to really rub it in how there is zero build up to it and that it is just there to assasniate character after character for some quick fetish fuel.

You say this like Futaba has had ANY relevance in the story recently other than her TSS.

 

[Xiondingens]

Tbh, Futaba is spineless person

I mean. Sort of? But that doesnt really work either. Because if she would be so spineless then we wouldnt had any drama to begin with, because she wouldnt have dared to even stand up to her. And if she would be just so scared to loose a friend, she would have forgiven her sooner. I mean from their perspective we are already talking about over a year. And it doesnt look like she has forgiven her completely. And in the end, she wouldnt even need her. She wouldnt be alone without her. So no matter how i look at it. It just isnt consistent and just another storyline sel did botch for no reason or benefit at all. I mean he doesnt even use this non sensical forgiveness in any meaningful way.

 

[Xiondingens]

You say this like Futaba has had ANY relevance in the story recently other than her TSS.

So you would agree there is not even any point in the story for her behaviour?

 

[Pedro4545454]

I want to share a slightly controversial opinion that I saw a lot of people ignoring or denying. The girls went there and stayed there of their own free will. Nodoka didn't force any of them. She invited them. The girls knew what was going to happen and it was their choice to stay there even after Ami's revelation. Many are angry with Nodoka, as if she forced the girls to stay there with some kind of blackmail or something, even though they went there of their own free will. They chose to do so, so Nodoka is not to blame for this.

It's the same thing: a murderer gives you a gun and says that you can kill whoever you hate and no one will ever know. If you don't do it, nothing will happen to you. If you go there and kill them, it's entirely your fault, not the murderer's. It's the same with Nodoka. She only invited them. The girls went and stayed there and did things because they wanted to. So I don't understand this hate she's receiving.

 

[DyonisXX]

Is Makoto having a stroke

 

[Bingoogus]

So you would agree there is not even any point in the story for her behaviour?

Her spinelessness just means that she doesn't have to forgive her to start acting like the situation is resolved, she's a coward, the more time goes on the less she will fight it. If you really want to measure how much she's 'forgiven' Nodoka, look to her interacting with her solo... we don't see that happening at all do we? Wonder why...

 

[throwawaysponge]

Spoiler: 4.9

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[ElaineZol]

I want to share a slightly controversial opinion that I saw a lot of people ignoring or denying. The girls went there and stayed there of their own free will. Nodoka didn't force any of them. She invited them. The girls knew what was going to happen and it was their choice to stay there even after Ami's revelation. Many are angry with Nodoka, as if she forced the girls to stay there with some kind of blackmail or something, even though they went there of their own free will. They chose to do so, so Nodoka is not to blame for this.

It's the same thing: a murderer gives you a gun and says that you can kill whoever you hate and no one will ever know. If you don't do it, nothing will happen to you. If you go there and kill them, it's entirely your fault, not the murderer's. It's the same with Nodoka. She only invited them. The girls went and stayed there and did things because they wanted to. So I don't understand this hate she's receiving.

I don't even think is controversial, that's literally the way it is and how it happened.

 

[Pedro4545454]

I don't even think is controversial, that's literally the way it is and how it happened.

The controversial thing was me wanting to say unpopular, but my translator translated it wrong

 

[LoveWhiteHairedGirl]

I want to share a slightly controversial opinion that I saw a lot of people ignoring or denying. The girls went there and stayed there of their own free will. Nodoka didn't force any of them. She invited them. The girls knew what was going to happen and it was their choice to stay there even after Ami's revelation. Many are angry with Nodoka, as if she forced the girls to stay there with some kind of blackmail or something, even though they went there of their own free will. They chose to do so, so Nodoka is not to blame for this.

It's the same thing: a murderer gives you a gun and says that you can kill whoever you hate and no one will ever know. If you don't do it, nothing will happen to you. If you go there and kill them, it's entirely your fault, not the murderer's. It's the same with Nodoka. She only invited them. The girls went and stayed there and did things because they wanted to. So I don't understand this hate she's receiving.

No one ignoring or denying it. It's just Nodoka is taking the spotlights of hate, as always. It's NODOKAthon, not AMIthon/AYANEthon/MIKUthon/KIRINthon/SANAthon/MOLLYthon. Most of us told something about some of these girls.
Ami is just Ami, so no one is really surprised or shocked by her actions.
Ayane is accepting this shit because she is so fucking exhausted by living in the loops for so long already. But it's obvious she is on her breaking point.
Miku is the complete idiot. And she never was a brightest tool in the shed from the beginning. But right now she is extremely idiotic self. The best Miku events are the very old Christmas ones, when the second school disappeared. Her events peaked back then. Alas, right now she's one-dimensional character. I dislike her.
Kirin. She's the slut, the whore, yeah. BUT. She is one of the two girls (she and Ayane) who were against at least some of Nodoka's and other girls' actions. But she's a whore, so she's into sex, yeah. And she isn't a friend with any of these girls.
Sana. I don't wanna talk about her.
Molly. As someone mentioned before, Molly is acting not really in-character for herself. Like, yeah, she's closet pervert, but it means SHE'S GOING TO BE A PERVERT ALONE. I mean, she's horny weeb teenager, yeah. Everyone can make mistakes, and Molly indeed felt bad afterwards. But justifying everything with "She's a teen, teens make mistakes" is exhausting already.

But if you're still going to blame everyone else, then you have to blame everyone else during the first Nodokathon, during the book release, during the moment Yumi beat her to half-death, during the moment Nodoka revealed Io's past. No one reacted TOO negatively towards Nodoka and everyone just accepted this shit afterwards. So it is, unfortunately, more like lazy writing because either there is some GODFUCKERY is going on as usual or because everyone just don't care, which is ruining any character development. Like, I can understand why Io (excluding an incident related to her) and Maya accept this shit. I can understand why Touka and Otoha will distance themselves from anything I mentioned. But starting from them, they will react with some kind of dislike towards Nodoka for AT LEAST ruining her own friendship with Futaba. But girls like Noriko, Ayane and Chika won't accept most of this shit.

Anyway, I'm tired. Yeah, the most obvious answer to this is GODFUCKERY once again. But that would be boring ass response from Sel. Because Nodoka would understand this, she's so-called genius after all. But noooo, she's just feeding the gods instead of breaking from their influence.

Edit.: I'll stop posting about Nodoka for now. At least until someone will peak my interest again.
Forever yours, Love*insertcolor*HairedGirl, also known as Nodoka disliker.

 

[Talishan]

I recently downloaded the game again since I missed a couple of updates, so I've been trying to set everything up as it was in my previous version of the game. I installed the guide mod, the dark mode mod, and transferred my saves (they worked in 0.46) and tried to start the game. It launches properly but once I try to load in my most recent save, I am met with this error message:

I'm sorry, but an uncaught exception occurred.

While running game code:
  File "renpy/common/00action_file.rpy", line 498, in __call__
    renpy.load(fn)
Exception: Couldn't find a place to stop rolling back. Perhaps the script changed in an incompatible way?

-- Full Traceback ------------------------------------------------------------

Full traceback:
  File "renpy/common/_layout/screen_main_menu.rpym", line 28, in script
    python hide:
  File "C:\Users\qvattro\Downloads\LessonsInLove-0.49.0-0.49.0-pc-subscribestar\LessonsInLove0.49.0-0.49.0-pc-subscribestar\renpy\ast.py", line 823, in execute
    renpy.python.py_exec_bytecode(self.code.bytecode, self.hide, store=self.store)
  File "C:\Users\qvattro\Downloads\LessonsInLove-0.49.0-0.49.0-pc-subscribestar\LessonsInLove0.49.0-0.49.0-pc-subscribestar\renpy\python.py", line 1178, in py_exec_bytecode
    exec(bytecode, globals, locals)
  File "renpy/common/_layout/screen_main_menu.rpym", line 28, in <module>
    python hide:
  File "renpy/common/_layout/screen_main_menu.rpym", line 35, in _execute_python_hide
    ui.interact()
  File "C:\Users\qvattro\Downloads\LessonsInLove-0.49.0-0.49.0-pc-subscribestar\LessonsInLove0.49.0-0.49.0-pc-subscribestar\renpy\ui.py", line 301, in interact
    rv = renpy.game.interface.interact(roll_forward=roll_forward, **kwargs)
  File "C:\Users\qvattro\Downloads\LessonsInLove-0.49.0-0.49.0-pc-subscribestar\LessonsInLove0.49.0-0.49.0-pc-subscribestar\renpy\display\core.py", line 2166, in interact
    repeat, rv = self.interact_core(preloads=preloads, trans_pause=trans_pause, pause=pause, pause_start=pause_start, pause_modal=pause_modal, **kwargs) # type: ignore
  File "C:\Users\qvattro\Downloads\LessonsInLove-0.49.0-0.49.0-pc-subscribestar\LessonsInLove0.49.0-0.49.0-pc-subscribestar\renpy\display\core.py", line 3208, in interact_core
    rv = root_widget.event(ev, x, y, 0)
  File "C:\Users\qvattro\Downloads\LessonsInLove-0.49.0-0.49.0-pc-subscribestar\LessonsInLove0.49.0-0.49.0-pc-subscribestar\renpy\display\layout.py", line 1202, in event
    rv = i.event(ev, x - xo, y - yo, cst)
  File "C:\Users\qvattro\Downloads\LessonsInLove-0.49.0-0.49.0-pc-subscribestar\LessonsInLove0.49.0-0.49.0-pc-subscribestar\renpy\display\transition.py", line 53, in event
    return self.new_widget.event(ev, x, y, st) # E1101
  File "C:\Users\qvattro\Downloads\LessonsInLove-0.49.0-0.49.0-pc-subscribestar\LessonsInLove0.49.0-0.49.0-pc-subscribestar\renpy\display\layout.py", line 1202, in event
    rv = i.event(ev, x - xo, y - yo, cst)
  File "C:\Users\qvattro\Downloads\LessonsInLove-0.49.0-0.49.0-pc-subscribestar\LessonsInLove0.49.0-0.49.0-pc-subscribestar\renpy\display\layout.py", line 1202, in event
    rv = i.event(ev, x - xo, y - yo, cst)
  File "C:\Users\qvattro\Downloads\LessonsInLove-0.49.0-0.49.0-pc-subscribestar\LessonsInLove0.49.0-0.49.0-pc-subscribestar\renpy\display\screen.py", line 793, in event
    rv = self.child.event(ev, x, y, st)
  File "C:\Users\qvattro\Downloads\LessonsInLove-0.49.0-0.49.0-pc-subscribestar\LessonsInLove0.49.0-0.49.0-pc-subscribestar\renpy\display\layout.py", line 1202, in event
    rv = i.event(ev, x - xo, y - yo, cst)
  File "C:\Users\qvattro\Downloads\LessonsInLove-0.49.0-0.49.0-pc-subscribestar\LessonsInLove0.49.0-0.49.0-pc-subscribestar\renpy\display\layout.py", line 1430, in event
    rv = super(Window, self).event(ev, x, y, st)
  File "C:\Users\qvattro\Downloads\LessonsInLove-0.49.0-0.49.0-pc-subscribestar\LessonsInLove0.49.0-0.49.0-pc-subscribestar\renpy\display\layout.py", line 288, in event
    rv = d.event(ev, x - xo, y - yo, st)
  File "C:\Users\qvattro\Downloads\LessonsInLove-0.49.0-0.49.0-pc-subscribestar\LessonsInLove0.49.0-0.49.0-pc-subscribestar\renpy\display\layout.py", line 1202, in event
    rv = i.event(ev, x - xo, y - yo, cst)
  File "C:\Users\qvattro\Downloads\LessonsInLove-0.49.0-0.49.0-pc-subscribestar\LessonsInLove0.49.0-0.49.0-pc-subscribestar\renpy\display\layout.py", line 1430, in event
    rv = super(Window, self).event(ev, x, y, st)
  File "C:\Users\qvattro\Downloads\LessonsInLove-0.49.0-0.49.0-pc-subscribestar\LessonsInLove0.49.0-0.49.0-pc-subscribestar\renpy\display\layout.py", line 288, in event
    rv = d.event(ev, x - xo, y - yo, st)
  File "C:\Users\qvattro\Downloads\LessonsInLove-0.49.0-0.49.0-pc-subscribestar\LessonsInLove0.49.0-0.49.0-pc-subscribestar\renpy\display\layout.py", line 1202, in event
    rv = i.event(ev, x - xo, y - yo, cst)
  File "C:\Users\qvattro\Downloads\LessonsInLove-0.49.0-0.49.0-pc-subscribestar\LessonsInLove0.49.0-0.49.0-pc-subscribestar\renpy\display\layout.py", line 288, in event
    rv = d.event(ev, x - xo, y - yo, st)
  File "C:\Users\qvattro\Downloads\LessonsInLove-0.49.0-0.49.0-pc-subscribestar\LessonsInLove0.49.0-0.49.0-pc-subscribestar\renpy\display\behavior.py", line 1174, in event
    return handle_click(self.clicked)
  File "C:\Users\qvattro\Downloads\LessonsInLove-0.49.0-0.49.0-pc-subscribestar\LessonsInLove0.49.0-0.49.0-pc-subscribestar\renpy\display\behavior.py", line 1095, in handle_click
    rv = run(action)
  File "C:\Users\qvattro\Downloads\LessonsInLove-0.49.0-0.49.0-pc-subscribestar\LessonsInLove0.49.0-0.49.0-pc-subscribestar\renpy\display\behavior.py", line 388, in run
    new_rv = run(i, *args, **kwargs)
  File "C:\Users\qvattro\Downloads\LessonsInLove-0.49.0-0.49.0-pc-subscribestar\LessonsInLove0.49.0-0.49.0-pc-subscribestar\renpy\display\behavior.py", line 395, in run
    return action(*args, **kwargs)
  File "renpy/common/00action_file.rpy", line 498, in __call__
    renpy.load(fn)
  File "C:\Users\qvattro\Downloads\LessonsInLove-0.49.0-0.49.0-pc-subscribestar\LessonsInLove0.49.0-0.49.0-pc-subscribestar\renpy\loadsave.py", line 829, in load
    log.unfreeze(roots, label="_after_load")
  File "C:\Users\qvattro\Downloads\LessonsInLove-0.49.0-0.49.0-pc-subscribestar\LessonsInLove0.49.0-0.49.0-pc-subscribestar\renpy\rollback.py", line 1130, in unfreeze
    self.rollback(0, force=True, label=label, greedy=greedy, on_load=True)
  File "C:\Users\qvattro\Downloads\LessonsInLove-0.49.0-0.49.0-pc-subscribestar\LessonsInLove0.49.0-0.49.0-pc-subscribestar\renpy\rollback.py", line 925, in rollback
    self.load_failed()
  File "C:\Users\qvattro\Downloads\LessonsInLove-0.49.0-0.49.0-pc-subscribestar\LessonsInLove0.49.0-0.49.0-pc-subscribestar\renpy\rollback.py", line 843, in load_failed
    raise Exception("Couldn't find a place to stop rolling back. Perhaps the script changed in an incompatible way?")
Exception: Couldn't find a place to stop rolling back. Perhaps the script changed in an incompatible way?

Windows-10-10.0.22631 AMD64
Ren'Py 8.2.3.24061702
Lessons in Love 0.49.0
Tue May  6 00:18:04 2025

Could someone please tell me what's going on with my game and what I could do to fix it?

Some additional notes: I was checked whether the dark mode mod was the culprit by getting a fresh copy of the game and only installing the guide mod, and it still gave me the same error.

Looks like something in your save is breaking the script, so it tries to do a rollback, but can't find any place to stop the rollback. Have you tried loading older saves? First try your second most recent. If that doesn't woek, then as a test you can first try to load your older save, then if that works you can load a save near the middle. If that works load a middle save again. Repeat until you find the most recent save that works. It is not unheard of for saves in this game to get fucked up.

 

[Talishan]

Speaking of saves getting broken... all of the side girls show 0 affection to me and show no events completed or missed at all. I'm sure that's not going to cause any problems when the script calls their variables. EDIT: Disregard that, but I'll leave this here in case someone else experiences this: I had accidentally clicked on an event, if you go into the girl trackers during an event it shows as if you have 0 affection and no events viewed or missed.

 

[ElaineZol]

No one ignoring or denying it. It's just Nodoka is taking the spotlights of hate, as always. It's NODOKAthon, not AMIthon/AYANEthon/MIKUthon/KIRINthon/SANAthon/MOLLYthon. Most of us told something about some of these girls.
Ami is just Ami, so no one is really surprised or shocked by her actions.
Ayane is accepting this shit because she is so fucking exhausted by living in the loops for so long already. But it's obvious she is on her breaking point.
Miku is the complete idiot. And she never was a brightest tool in the shed from the beginning. But right now she is extremely idiotic self. The best Miku events are the very old Christmas ones, when the second school disappeared. Her events peaked back then. Alas, right now she's one-dimensional character. I dislike her.
Kirin. She's the slut, the whore, yeah. BUT. She is one of the two girls (she and Ayane) who were against at least some of Nodoka's and other girls' actions. But she's a whore, so she's into sex, yeah. And she isn't a friend with any of these girls.
Sana. I don't wanna talk about her.
Molly. As someone mentioned before, Molly is acting not really in-character for herself. Like, yeah, she's closet pervert, but it means SHE'S GOING TO BE A PERVERT ALONE. I mean, she's horny weeb teenager, yeah. Everyone can make mistakes, and Molly indeed felt bad afterwards. But justifying everything with "She's a teen, teens make mistakes" is exhausting already.

But if you're still going to blame everyone else, then you have to blame everyone else during the first Nodokathon, during the book release, during the moment Yumi beat her to half-death, during the moment Nodoka revealed Io's past. No one reacted TOO negatively towards Nodoka and everyone just accepted this shit afterwards. So it is, unfortunately, more like lazy writing because either there is some GODFUCKERY is going on as usual or because everyone just don't care, which is ruining any character development. Like, I can understand why Io (excluding an incident related to her) and Maya accept this shit. I can understand why Touka and Otoha will distance themselves from anything I mentioned. But starting from them, they will react with some kind of dislike towards Nodoka for AT LEAST ruining her own friendship with Futaba. But girls like Noriko, Ayane and Chika won't accept most of this shit.

Anyway, I'm tired. Yeah, the most obvious answer to this is GODFUCKERY once again. But that would be boring ass response from Sel. Because Nodoka would understand this, she's so-called genius after all. But noooo, she's just feeding the gods instead of breaking from their influence.

Edit.: I'll stop posting about Nodoka for now. At least until someone will peak my interest again.
Forever yours, Love*insertcolor*HairedGirl, also known as Nodoka disliker.

I'm starting to believe you don't like Nodoka :/

In a more serious note. I don't know how much can actually be attributed to Godfuckery for actual plot reasons or how much is it because Sel is having issues in writing. It is so very obvious now that most people are coming to terms with being part of a harem and being so open about it that it's getting too cliche~ish.

I just want this chapter to end and let's start the freaking corpse party already. I want to do a Durge-Ami run.

 

[Pedro4545454]

I'm starting to believe you don't like Nodoka :/

I just want this chapter to end and let's start the freaking corpse party already. I want to do a Durge-Ami run.

Unfortunately, hatred blinds people, and this time the blame lies with the girls and not Nodoka, who didn't force anyone.

This chapter will last for a few more years, so it will take a long time.

 

[ElaineZol]

This chapter will last for a few more years, so it will take a long time.

Which is crazy, and if this mofo keeps taking so many PTO then we might actually get a GTA 7 before he is done with this one. Unless he drops it for something else or gets taken to jail, you never know.