Hey, friend, I'm back. Let's revisit some of the things you've said. I hope that this time you won't deflect or ignore arguments that are inconvenient for you.
The conversation with Noriko tells us everything we need to know about her.
You conveniently ignore the part where she says that walking away from sisters was his choice. Twice. I already brought this point up and you just ignored it.
Maya for 20% of the game: secretly betrayed you,
Literally a scene between Maya and Noriko that explains it all.
Where exactly an indication of "secret betrayal" there? Her reasons: to protect Sensei from horrible memories induced by Noriko. Does she has a valid reason for saying this? We don't know, but leaving this out is disingenuous of you at best. Also, to reiterate: according to her it was Sensei's choice to go away.
kept you from a woman you actually love,
Niki. Your 'old fiance', according to the wiki.
This is where I pointed out that there's another person being hinted for that role.
You (what a surprise!) completely ignored (and deflected) my answer, because it shows you don't actually played the game, just skipped around.
It makes those statements...
So... Have you even played the game? It seems like you skipped all the content relating to this.
Did you not read anything?
...extra ironic.
It's ok to like her, just stop pretending she isn't just as manipulative as the MC is.
it's like y'all just skip the parts that make Maya as bad as the MC.
That you refuse to understand it isn't my fault. Maya is just as trash as Sensei is.
Maya manipulates the Sensei through the entire game.
She's a pretty shitty person.
Maya isn't any better than he is.
Making her a shitty person. Exactly like the sensei.
You still haven't elaborated on how is she just as shitty and manipulative as mc. I pointed out that she never assaulted or groomed anyone and Noriko's accusation are pretty vague and are refused (some) by Maya. Others are open to interpretation as we don't know what actually happened.
I said:
I am. You are just ignoring the fact that we don't actually know what happened and rely solely on Noriko's words, how she percieved what happened. In a world where, need I remind you, perception and memories are highly unreliable.
Your answer:
Maya herself tells you when Noriko is introduced.
Tells what? The only thing she clearly communicates that she hates Noriko. Whatever its varanted or a simple rivalry (both?) we don't know.
She literally screamsget out, get out you fucking cunt.
While in class. Did you not read anything?
How is that a reposte to what I said? I said we don't know what actually happened, we only have Noriko's words vs Maya's. You counter this with "bUt MaYa sCreaMed aT heR, and In a CLasSroom too!"
Maya and Noriko have an entire dialogue about this.
From which you only take Noriko's words from.
Maya is a shit person. Her actions make her a shit person. Actions she chose to do. It's not a hateboner, its a simple fact: Maya is a shit person. You'll continue to rage post of course, long pointless diatribes that excuse what she's done, but it wont prove you're not a simp. Thanks for coming to this TED Talk.
None of the simping you've done has changed the simple fact that Maya has made multiple choices for the Sensei. Niki and Noriko are two of them,
This is were you do a factory reset and just go back to previous points, ignoring my counter-arguments. Again: Noriko words vs Maya. At least adreess what Maya says.
For all we know she's going to keep him trapped until all the competition disappears. The facts are Maya knows what's going on and has controlled the situation without even asking what the Sensei wants a single time.
You're ignoring the basic facts: Maya knows, at least marginally, whats going on. Maya kept the Sensei away from people. We know those things to be true.
She manipulates the Sensei from the moment the game begins.
This is where you show you bias again. This and the fact that you just skip dialog and instead take info from wiki, because this braindead take completely ignores all of those scenes (scary house, recent reset) that shows us she's really not sure what's going on and definitely not in control. Also, again, ignoring Maya's side of things, only Noriko's. If i was doing a drinking game, I would've died from alcohol poisoning by now.
You can try to do some more mental gymnastics
The irony here is thick and rich with nutrients.
to justify it using 'vague' or 'mysterious' arguments.
Yes, those are definitely my arguments. Glad to see you have such amazing reading and comprehending capabilities.
There is no story outside that that matters.
Very definitive and absurd statement when we aren't even halfway through the game.
Maya can die in a housefire. I won't ever change my mind about that. I'm sorry Maya-simps, it just wont happen.
Are you sure about it?
Maya for 80% of the game: Fuck off, I dont like you
I'm starting to think that's the real underlying issue here.
