Ren'Py Lessons in Love [v0.53.0] [Selebus]

[crustlord12]

So, Bargle and the rest of you theory folk. What do you make of Io's little speech on the beach with Uta? Something pretty specific stood out to me, when Io was talking about the throuple idea she specifically said in an ideal world that a traumaless Io could sleep with Sensei which seems to suggest Io doesn't just fucking hate people and sex for no reason... am i misinterpreting things or does it sound like she's a child/teen rape victim? If it's specifically trauma that prevents her wanting sex and not just being born asexual/anti-sexual then what else could the nature of the trauma be?

Interesting, I did think it was more just asexual and a thing about just being a bit of an edgy "I hate everyone" teenager at the start, but knowing this type of game I wouldn't be surprised if you were correct

 

[Bingoogus]

Interesting, I did think it was more just asexual and a thing about just being a bit of an edgy "I hate everyone" teenager at the start, but knowing this type of game I wouldn't be surprised if you were correct

Well i was thinking the same thing, i think we were kind of supposed to, that's why that single word stood out to me... "wtf does trauma have to do with you hating people and not wanting sex?.. wait...". I don't even recall Io ever mentioning any trauma before.

 

[kitsunedawn]

Well i was thinking the same thing, i think we were kind of supposed to, that's why that single word stood out to me... "wtf does trauma have to do with you hating people and not wanting sex?.. wait...". I don't even recall Io ever mentioning any trauma before.

It's not unheard of (in fact it's rather common) for a woman or girl who has been sexually abused in the past, including and up to being raped, to develop a hatred for those who abused her. Sometimes it is limited to people that simply looked like their abuser, while other times it's those who share some of the same qualities. Like people in power over another. This hatred of their abuser, if left untreated long enough, can develop into a misanthropic attitude toward others.

Meaning, it makes perfect sense for her to hate people in general, and not want to engage in sex, or really anything on par with it, due to past traumas.

 

[Cool'Thulhu]

WAIT!...
thinking about it...
Can SEKAI possibly be the last "side" girl (instead of "Himawari")???
(If we assume that Rika is other one)

Well, their future interactions would certainly be weird (and funny ) to see...

 

[kitsunedawn]

WAIT!...
thinking about it...
Can SEKAI possibly be the last "side" girl???
(If we assume that Rika is other one)

Well, their future interactions would certainly be weird (and funny ) to see...

I'm thinking it's more likely she's going to be integral to figuring out why the loop started, and why Sensei's mind is so fractured. In fact, I suspect her story is tied to most all of what is going on, in one way or another.

My personal theory is that Sensei was killed by her, and that this loop is intended to torment those she blames (the girls, maybe Ami, or those at that school in general). Sensei was brought back by some higher power, and until just recently was a mindless creature in that loop as well, until something changed. Something that I suspect directly involved Maya.

 

[barglenarglezous]

Also I wonder why this chapter is called Hateful Summer. Since the update just ended with the night of christmas and Kumon-mi only has the seasons of winter and summer, the next update will be set in the summer again so I think we will see sensei enjoying a positive upturn in his life for a bit and then everything will come tumbling down once he (and maybe ami) becomes aware of sekai's rebirth (which btw reminds me of christianity having some rebirth stuff, although i dont know fucking shit about christianity so perhaps som1 could enlighten me)

"rebirth" isn't the right word. She's invisible to most people (she stood there watching Noriko dry hump Sensei and Noriko didn't even hear her talking), only visible to Sensei, Yasu, and likely Sana (based on Sana's vision in a previous update), as well as anyone touch sufficiently touched by the Angels/Nozomu. She exhibits the same power as the Angels when they forced the threesome.

So she wasn't reborn. She's become an angel. Ascended might be a better word for it.

 

[barglenarglezous]

So, Bargle and the rest of you theory folk. What do you make of Io's little speech on the beach with Uta? Something pretty specific stood out to me, when Io was talking about the throuple idea she specifically said in an ideal world that a traumaless Io could sleep with Sensei which seems to suggest Io doesn't just fucking hate people and sex for no reason... am i misinterpreting things or does it sound like she's a child/teen rape victim? If it's specifically trauma that prevents her wanting sex and not just being born asexual/anti-sexual then what else could the nature of the trauma be?

"Let out as much as you can, but stop if you get too uncomfortable, just like they taught us."

Uta and Io clearly didn't just meet online, they met on an online forum for sexual abuse survivors. We have some very clear indicators of what Uta's trauma is, because of the photo message. But Io's trauma 1) Has caused her to have a deep distrust of girls/women, so much so that her only female friend is someone she thought had a penis until meeting her in person, and 2) has made her sex-repulsed, regardless of gender.

She might have been lured into trafficking by a girl at some point (not an unusual tactic for traffickers, to use their conditioned victims to lure in new ones), or possibly abused by her mother (she talks about her aunt a lot, but I don't recall much talk about her parents, I could be way off base on this one, though, given the quality of my memory).

 

[barglenarglezous]

WAIT!...
thinking about it...
Can SEKAI possibly be the last "side" girl (instead of "Himawari")???
(If we assume that Rika is other one)

Well, their future interactions would certainly be weird (and funny ) to see...

Doppelganger Flower Girl very clearly states "I'm not that kind of character" when Sensei hits on her. So she is definitely NOT Mystery Side Girl 15.

Niki, Imani, and Rika(? Rin's mom, whatever her name is) were all introduced as such to patrons prior to being introduced in game, so I suspect we'll see the same with 15.

 

[barglenarglezous]

What's the general consensus on whether or not Ami is actually Akira's daughter? Anyone run the numbers on if it's possible given their ages and when Sensei likely started banging Sekai? Is the idea too incongruent with the rest of the story or is it exactly the kind of fucked up Sel would put in his story?

If my interpretation of events is correct, it is possible. Ami's a first year, so about 14 tops. He's 32, so would have been 18 when she was born. When told from Sensei's POV, Sekai is usually referenced as Teacher, and it's established that the relationship started when they started spending more time together after he broke his leg climbing through a window -- a thing you are much less likely to do as an adult. This all points to Sensei being a student at Teacher's school at the time it happened -- so prior to his 18th birthday. Possibly a number of years prior, given the tone of the happy scene with that damned alphabet song.

And Sekai's comment in this update about how she would have loved to be with him and Ami definitely implies a connection.

 

[crustlord12]

This kind of thing is why I would love there to be a scene-in-order replay, because there is so much that has happened over the years that it would be nice to go over it all in update order, digging through is pretty difficult. If I wasn't such a lazy sack of shit I'd attempt this, but I'm a lazy sack of shit.

 

[Cool'Thulhu]

Probably getting her pregnant in this scene

I mean given what ami said (and all her previous lust events) cumming inside her is pretty common thing for sensei, why this time specifically would be special?
BTW you have to remember that this is a skippable scene, and Ami pregnancy would too big of a deal to be tied to a skippable scene

What's the general consensus on whether or not Ami is actually Akira's daughter? Anyone run the numbers on if it's possible given their ages and when Sensei likely started banging Sekai? Is the idea too incongruent with the rest of the story or is it exactly the kind of fucked up Sel would put in his story?

That's a theory that been going around for some time already,
Ami is probably the most "ominous" of the main girls
From her mood swings to how she was in the past (like, with her family or her depressed phase)
Many things about her are still completely a mystery, so who knows... but yeah, she is possibly 14-15 and Sensei is 31(?), so there's a possibility that he's her real father (And given her tendencies, I think Ami would love that, breaks completely or both ).

Well i was thinking the same thing, i think we were kind of supposed to, that's why that single word stood out to me... "wtf does trauma have to do with you hating people and not wanting sex?.. wait...". I don't even recall Io ever mentioning any trauma before.

I don't think she was straight up raped BUT Io works in a bath house that also offers "massages", culturally in Japan sometimes those houses are used as prostitution places (remember Spirited Away allegory?), so maybe she was forced to give the clients a "happy ending" with her hands (maybe woman clients since she's so repulsed by them) or watched her aunt doing those things on the cameras.

My personal theory is that Sensei was killed by her

I don't think so, Sensei possibly commits suicide right at the start of the game (JUMP!)

I suspect we'll see the same with 15

well, Sekai is back... I guess

 

[raze.su]

hi guys can you give me the chapter 2 save of this game?

 

[TheGuyWithB]

Is anyone here down to leak the latest care package?

They arent uploaded here, so you are gonna have to try somewhere else.

 

[gialice]

I only keep the save from the 0.26 and 0.27, and I have no way to interact with Makoto to raise her lust level, guess I'm a cheater now, but setting that aside, I'm really glad for Maya in this chapter, she have been through so much, so many circle, she at least deserve it, also it maybe a sign that everything is coming to the end soon??? Also some new info about Sensei, very interested

 

[dathk321]

They arent uploaded here, so you are gonna have to try somewhere else.

Can i ask, what is the care package, is it some kind of extra imagines of some characters?

 

[k1n5l4y3r]

My current theory is that Sensei sabotaged the car Nozomu and Sekai were driving and probably called his brother to chat one-on-one on the other side of town, but Sekai insisted on going with him and that is why both died, when Nodoka found wires outside, I think those are the wires that connect to the car brakes.

 

[k1n5l4y3r]

Can i ask, what is the care package, is it some kind of extra imagines of some characters?

Extra scenes with different ages of the characters, like younger Kirin or older Futaba, plus some characters extra information, like a biography.

 

[Deleted member 2223621]

So, Bargle and the rest of you theory folk. What do you make of Io's little speech on the beach with Uta? Something pretty specific stood out to me, when Io was talking about the throuple idea she specifically said in an ideal world that a traumaless Io could sleep with Sensei which seems to suggest Io doesn't just fucking hate people and sex for no reason... am i misinterpreting things or does it sound like she's a child/teen rape victim? If it's specifically trauma that prevents her wanting sex and not just being born asexual/anti-sexual then what else could the nature of the trauma be?

yeah, she more than likely got touched in the wrong way and didn't like it, lives with an aunt, so most likely an immediate family member, reaction towards women strongly implies it was a female touch that did it to her. This could also explain Io's natural tendancy towards more 'masculine' dominated hobbies and work, more to limit herself from female contact while working or learning her craft. It appears Uta and Io met while children on what probably was an online support group chat. Wouldn't be surprised if she hates Ami the most out of any other girl because of her predilections, if the family abuse is true; or even Rin in the future, her finding out Rins mother is sleeping with Rin in the dorms and both are Yuri or Yuri adjacent might cause a mental break if previous thoughts are true.
Edit: Io also finding Sana going at it probably was the worse outcome too for her mental health at the time, if above is true, because it helps reinforce women and her classmates as 'sexual' and sex (in regard to the same gender) is already associated with pain/trauma for her. wouldn't be surprised by a potential passive aggressive bullying attempt by Io on Sana in the future to try and regain control/assert her status as a non-victim. probably without her even realizing why she is doing it. Io forming a 'friendship' with miku is an attempt at obtaining validation from sensei rather than what appears to be a desire to move on, its an intentional pick of the girl with the most tomboyish tendancies that does not openly vocalize female attraction (yet). it is also a relationship fully with Io in control as miku's 'drug dealer' making any interactions heavily dependent on what Io wants

the other option (which it isn't because selebus very clearly slapped that down before the event even started) with the extremely vague ass wording she used to describe her hang ups regarding her genitals could have implied transgender instead, but Uta's joke before that scene making fun of the very idea of boy-Io and 'imagining' Io with a small baby penis seemed to be a very calculated joke placement by selebus so no one could jump to that conclusion

 

[Fckjoch]

Sooo...
That broken reality is the end right?
I mean...
I'm sure there are things to do, never saw a sign with "THE END"
But after months (hours) clicking in limbo I'm out of ideas what to do....
Start over, throw my pc from my balcony or even better...myself.
A hint system build in, and a big sign "The END",would be nice.
Cut that pointless grinding out of your script and give more pointers on what to do and this could be a great game.
Now...
I'm frustrated about hours lost and not being able to see all the content.
fuverymuch

 

[Deleted member 2223621]

That's a theory that been going around for some time already,
Ami is probably the most "ominous" of the main girls
From her mood swings to how she was in the past (like, with her family or her depressed phase)
Many things about her are completely a mystery yet, so who knows... but yeah, she is possibly 14-15 and Sensei is 31(?), so there's a possibility that he's her real father (And given her tendencies, I think Ami would love that, breaks completely or both ).

i mean did you SEE Ami's shadow in the suana event, her arms man, nightmare fuel, based on that alone some might think she is the wire god or heavily related to that