k1n5l4y3r
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yeah about this
i talk about the
i don't know how to call the
so i just go with
figured about that,thanks for the answer
and while im still new at this,how often this game update?
did we get our update soon enough?
k1n5l4y3r
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It updates quite regularly, once, somethimes twice a month, but right now the dev is going through his wedding, moving, going to honeymoon, so next update is planned to be in march.
So I've binged all of this game in under a week or so, so I've picked up everything in a single stream instead of via monthly updates. Disregarding the blatant escape/power fantasy nonsense which I get is part of the point, I've really enjoyed the characters, the mystery, and the general story telling. However outside of a few notable exceptions (I've re-read most of Rin's events so many times, Maya's too, and Niki is queen) the third chapter has had a large change in character consistency and voice that is really starting to bug me.
I'll start with voice. In the literal sense, starting at chapter 3 most of the characters are starting to sound the same. Damn near every character has said "I'm not not something something blah blah" recently. There are some text tricks in dialogue boxes to make it seem different, but most of the characters are saying the same things in the same way.
A notable exception to the above that leads to my next point in regards to character consistency is Chika. Her character has completely new aspects to her all of a sudden (weirdly violent, a lot more crass). She was a creampuff before, and now it feels like she's being shoved into a sassy inner city latino girl archetype. It's like the author stated she's Philipino, now we need to cram her into stereotypes. Touka too. I don't get the reasoning or idea behind her Christmas present at all. Touka has rapidly become one of my favorite characters in this, and she went from naïve bumbling but super kind to all knowing mommy in like...no events. There was no progression to the point she is at at the end of this update. "You are not going to hide from your emotions in me". She has had very little social experience and she is spitting lines like this? And she buys an entire apartment building and doesn't consider Chika's situation at all?
On another note, I really don't understand why this needs to be set in a first year high school setting. I had the same problem with Persona 5 where all of these huge complicated issues are looming above, and teenagers neither have the emotional maturity or experience to deal with any of this in a reasonable manner. Imagine if Rin were like 19, and how much more sense her character makes. Makoto too, daddy issues don't end at 14. Maya is an exception, but you can't really call her 14, who knows how old she actually is at this point, but she also acts like it. Noriko is the biggest stand out to me. How do you expect a teenager to be as accomplished, well thought out, emotionally in control, for absolutely anything she is saying.
Set it in college age, it doesn't lose anything and becomes much more believable. Sensei is still a shitheel for banging his students and most of the consequences of people finding out are the same. If there is a child abuse component to the story, then write the teenagers like teenagers and not mostly well adjusted adults with some trauma triggers.
I'm only nitpicking this stuff because I am truly enjoying the story being told here. I haven't appreciated a character as much as I have Rin in a good bit because she feels so real(screw otoha for real though and Rin's inability to get over her bullshit and move on). Maya is being written incredibly well given what her back story is as well. Sensei is being conveyed as a generally decent but profoundly broken person in a very believable (albeit horrible) way appropriate to the genre. The overarching question of who is running this simulation has me guessing constantly about who is in charge of it, who is controlling it, who is it benefitting, who is real, etc. constantly. There is just enough hints and clues dropped here and there to make it seem there is a coherent plot, which I hope turns out to be true.
I'll start with voice. In the literal sense, starting at chapter 3 most of the characters are starting to sound the same. Damn near every character has said "I'm not not something something blah blah" recently. There are some text tricks in dialogue boxes to make it seem different, but most of the characters are saying the same things in the same way.
A notable exception to the above that leads to my next point in regards to character consistency is Chika. Her character has completely new aspects to her all of a sudden (weirdly violent, a lot more crass). She was a creampuff before, and now it feels like she's being shoved into a sassy inner city latino girl archetype. It's like the author stated she's Philipino, now we need to cram her into stereotypes. Touka too. I don't get the reasoning or idea behind her Christmas present at all. Touka has rapidly become one of my favorite characters in this, and she went from naïve bumbling but super kind to all knowing mommy in like...no events. There was no progression to the point she is at at the end of this update. "You are not going to hide from your emotions in me". She has had very little social experience and she is spitting lines like this? And she buys an entire apartment building and doesn't consider Chika's situation at all?
On another note, I really don't understand why this needs to be set in a first year high school setting. I had the same problem with Persona 5 where all of these huge complicated issues are looming above, and teenagers neither have the emotional maturity or experience to deal with any of this in a reasonable manner. Imagine if Rin were like 19, and how much more sense her character makes. Makoto too, daddy issues don't end at 14. Maya is an exception, but you can't really call her 14, who knows how old she actually is at this point, but she also acts like it. Noriko is the biggest stand out to me. How do you expect a teenager to be as accomplished, well thought out, emotionally in control, for absolutely anything she is saying.
Set it in college age, it doesn't lose anything and becomes much more believable. Sensei is still a shitheel for banging his students and most of the consequences of people finding out are the same. If there is a child abuse component to the story, then write the teenagers like teenagers and not mostly well adjusted adults with some trauma triggers.
I'm only nitpicking this stuff because I am truly enjoying the story being told here. I haven't appreciated a character as much as I have Rin in a good bit because she feels so real(screw otoha for real though and Rin's inability to get over her bullshit and move on). Maya is being written incredibly well given what her back story is as well. Sensei is being conveyed as a generally decent but profoundly broken person in a very believable (albeit horrible) way appropriate to the genre. The overarching question of who is running this simulation has me guessing constantly about who is in charge of it, who is controlling it, who is it benefitting, who is real, etc. constantly. There is just enough hints and clues dropped here and there to make it seem there is a coherent plot, which I hope turns out to be true.
i straight up agree in the characters seem different with no explanation given in chapter 3... yet
but the characters also seemed different chapter 2
in fact every reset or major world shift... the characters seem a little off from what they were before it
the changes seems rather small yet inconsistent with who they were before it each time.
I've extended a benefit of the doubt and assume it is a narrative element that is hinted at but not revealed yet
money on: there are no resets or time skips. just memory alterations
how much of a persons memories can you alter before they become a different person. ex: sensei
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actually, heavily implied daisy and others are straight up altering the girls at this point so we do have an implied explanation
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It's just a disadvantage of there being only one person behind the dialogue of the entire cast. A lot of the characters share sayings that hardly anyone ever says. Especially young teenagers never say. There was an update where different characters kept saying 'I'm going out on a limb here' in separate events and it was kinda weird. And now I still find it weird whenever I see it again tbh (Which is too often). But that's just one example of it.
But I get it. I think anyone would struggle to make 30+ characters sound different to each other 100% of the time. But the cast is definitely big enough now, anymore of them and I think each girl would slowly lose all of their uniqueness.
But I get it. I think anyone would struggle to make 30+ characters sound different to each other 100% of the time. But the cast is definitely big enough now, anymore of them and I think each girl would slowly lose all of their uniqueness.
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Not seeing the atrocity, tbh. That was simply Touka being affectionate, and, playing with her trope, being way over the top materially while getting the feelings right. Sensei does, in fact, feel conflicted right now for various reasons and could use a retreat.
Huh? Even ignoring all the parenting/older sistering she does for Yasu, you could see the shades of this Touka all the way back in Something Less Lonely. She was the same in the previous update as well. In fact, the juxtaposition between the usual "hime-sama with no knowledge of the normal world" antics of her general character type and Touka actually being fairly wise and understanding is what makes her one of my favourites.
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Completely agree with you on Chika and Touka's characters; I would assume that these personalities are somewhat sensible and more or less already there from the beginning (as in, not something developed throughout the journey) but are never too emphasized.
Chika could have this spicy and fierce side of her considering her upbringing, and the pent up stress from dealing with Otoha and Yumi's situations, but this can definitely be better articulated (Either that, or her past events mostly only rotated around people she loves, thus having the idea of her always being a creampuff)
For Touka, her all knowing mommy side is also fine for the same reason and I think it's within her already, but the segue seems to limit to only her Yasu sidekick appearance in most main events and the one line saying "spending too much time with Yasu" (again, could've done better). But I do think she is well equipped with saying "You are not going to hide from your emotions in me" though because she's mature and observing. She is naive, sheltered, and doesn't know much about the commoner world, but she doesn't have to be blunt toward feelings of a person she for whatever reason takes liking to.
In fact, I think what requires more detailing is instead when she said "But in the meantime, allow me to please you" (like holy shit GIRL you really were under some bad influence). What would be nice is to have more events hinting why she decides to join the love warfare now, as her own events mostly just described her kindness and naiveness; a tiny tease at the end of Something Less Lonely to me isn't quite enough.
Btw you're right, she should've bought the building for Chika now I thought of it LOL
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Chika's situation is bad, but Imani's is arguably worse (Chika's place at least doesn't flood)
I don't think she's met Rika yet, but Rika's literally homeless.
She could use the other units in that building to dramatically improve several lives.
As for why Touka's throwing her immaculate hat in the ring now -- I would have a guess.
Ayane and Touka both live under the specter of how family owned businesses operate in Japan. To keep the business in the family and run by a man, if there are no sons to pass the company to, the daughter is married off, her husband is adopted as a son, and the company handed to him when the time comes to pass the torch.
Touka might be trying to cherry-pick a husband because she's playing roulette if she lets her father make the decision. And while she's keenly aware of his faults -- he's actually treated her quite well, aside from the running joke about her name. Moving Sensei closer to the part of town where the absurdly wealthy live also suits this purpose, as it make him look more respectable.
I can't imagine she's discussed this plan with Tsubasa, though, because I think her mother would have some THOUGHTS.
I have a problem with There is Nothing, when I trigger the event and follow the guide but neither of them seem to work, it give me the same fucking answer every time: TERMINAL NOT FOUND, wtf its going on?
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HOPE to continue with the event and =) to trigger the happy event, am I doing something wrong?
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Lmao, oh yes... i do not know which way she might fall, approval or disapproval, but she would definitely not be passive about such a situation.
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Terminal Number: 23 (obscenely obtuse hint given in one of the Trinity happy scenes)
IP Address: 2342:5b7:489:de26:c666:x994:3126:b067 (you were told this outright)
Port number: 1024 (audio cue)
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If it's terminal number you're looking for, it's 23.
FFS im a moron, thanks man u are a life savior
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I agree with a good bit of what you posted, but not so much here. Her reasoning with the apartment is off, at least how she expresses it, but there's a history of the whole family having no real concept of money. That much being thrown at what's currently a poorly thought through plan to get closer to someone she likes isn't necessarily bad writing, assuming there will be a bit more context in time..
Chika wouldn't really factor in here any more than she would at any other point (though I do wonder if she might end up with the place eventually).
The emotional aspect is a bit more complex, but she does have some history of being unusually insightful in some way or another. If she can figure out a fairly reliable way to make Yasu chill out on the insane zealot stuff for a bit, I don't think picking up on some of Senseis weirdness is that out there.
The kinda precocious or mature takes being tied in with being incredibly naive about a heap of shit is present in the whole family, in one way or another. They're all clearly meant to be smart and able to pick up on stuff, they just are crazy sheltered.
Does kinda just comes down to how it's handled as the plot moves forward, but I think it's at least somewhat consistent with what we've seen so far.
I don't really see Touka taking much of an interest in anyone except Chika in this particular regard. Chika has gotten close with her mother and is routinely letting her little sister visit. Does she even know about Imani's living arrangements? Didn't think many did.
I hadn't considered she may be throwing her hat in for romance with Sensei (nothing in the story really made me think she was). Through that lens her actions make a bit more sense.