DarkDaemonX

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If Selebus ruins the game because if this, I think a lot of people would snitch and try to have Illusion start a lawsuit, I just wanted to warn him that if he's ever caught by Illusion selling this stuff, he will likely lose everything, that's why paywalling KK content is just a bad idea, early access is fine, because you're not selling it, but you are selling the CPs and custom renders.
 

Wardtnaci

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I like to say "Thanks!" to the Mods for quelling all the discord and bringing back calm and harmony to the thread.
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I heard about the drama spewed out in thread this game creates but this is 1st time I've seen it unfold as it happened.

Now that that has happened.... I wonder if Raid Shadow Legends will pull their sponsorship of the game?!!! :unsure: (Sarcasm)
and I only say that because I'm @ that part of game in my replay of it. That event was a really unnecessary IMO. Also the Sana vs. Patreon was too. I really like the game overall and wouldn't have liked as much or invested as much time into it if it weren't for this tread and all people sharing tips, hints, opinions, and speculations about the game. So "Thanks" to every contributor. Also thanks to the Dev. for sharing part of Feb ** for free! At least we now know for sure the age of all of Sensei's students. At least in the Reset Bubble where the game story plays out. I'm still convinced that some of the girls were older and younger before the start of the Reset Bubble.

Anyone willing to post any good screenshots of Selly melting down on discord? I'd go and have a look myself but you need a proper account with a phone number to get past the welcome mat and like hell i'm giving discord my number. I need more popcorn entertainment.
I wish I could see it but all I see when I go there is the #Rules
 
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Sam

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I didn't intend to start a debate on Illusion and their copyright. I was just memeing and pointing out some hypocrisy. They don't really care and are focused on the Japanese market, so although it's against their EULA and copyright infringement, I can't see them caring about this game or any of the other western games using Illusion games for their renders.

Regarding F95 vs Selebus, gather around the fire and I'll tell you the tale, at least as I understand it.

He used to be an active member of the forums, and was very positive regarding the community. Even before creating his game, he was an active member (pirate), and even donated to the site. Things started to change when his game got bigger, and things eventually came to a head when he got kicked off of Patreon.
A little while after starting his SubscribeStar he kept editing the OP to put banners about the situation and asking people to move over to his SS. His changes broke the rather delicate game thread parser, which latest updates and a few other site features rely upon, and there was already a smaller message about the move which didn't break everything, as well as ongoing discussion in the thread itself. So, his OP edits were reverted, with a note asking him to be careful about the thread template. He restored the edits, they were removed yet again with an official warning. He restored them once more, and this time his edit access was revoked to prevent further changes. He seemingly took this to be a declaration of war and thought we were maliciously trying to destroy him and his game in the midst of him losing his Patreon.
I can accept that this could have been handled better from our side with better communication, poor communication is unfortunately a common occurrence due to the time constraints we face and workload. A team member later explained the situation and the misunderstanding, trying to rectify the situation. However, at that point it was too late, the community and moderators were already considered the big baddies, and any positive relationship was irrevocable.

Regarding the care package releases; all rule 7 decisions are meant to go via Staff, and unfortunately that didn't happen in this case. November was never posted on the site. December was posted, but was mass reported (by some of the same members who decided to fight the spam filter earlier, so I assume December's incident was another coordinated effort on their Discord). A new moderator unfortunately made a mistake on Christmas Eve/Day in light of the mass reports, and deleted it without alerting Staff. We missed this, again, Christmas didn't help, and only found out about it when January's release was leaked, upon which we rectified the mistake.

Despite all the drama, and some inevitable animosity now from our side, none of the moderation team blame Selebus. We're all well aware of the nature of the site and developers being frustrated and annoyed is completely understandable, and I don't offer any excuses for the piracy nature of the site. Regardless of any drama, we wish all developers with games on the site all the best with their development, and it's in everyone's best interests to support the developers who create the content they enjoy.

Anyway, thank you for listening to my ted talk. If you would like to fund the movie adaption, please support us on Kickstarter. $10k donations get producer credit and a 20 meter wide tapestry of this entire thread, signed by all of your favorite moderators.
 

BlackDays

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I didn't intend to start a debate on Illusion and their copyright. I was just memeing and pointing out some hypocrisy. They don't really care and are focused on the Japanese market, so although it's against their EULA and copyright infringement, I can't see them caring about this game or any of the other western games using Illusion games for their renders.

Regarding F95 vs Selebus, gather around the fire and I'll tell you the tale, at least as I understand it.

He used to be an active member of the forums, was very positive regarding the community. Even before creating his game, he was an active member (pirate), and even donated to the site. Things started to change when his game got bigger, and things eventually came to a head when he got kicked off of Patreon.
A little while after starting his SubscribeStar he kept editing the OP to put banners about the situation and asking people to move over to his SS. His changes broke the rather delicate game thread parser, which latest updates and a few other site features rely upon, and there was already a smaller message about the move which didn't break everything, as well as ongoing discussion in the thread itself. So, his OP edits were reverted, with a note asking him to be careful about the thread template. He restored the edits, they were removed yet again with an official warning. He restored them once more, and this time his edit access was revoked to prevent further changes. He seemingly took this to be a declaration of war and thought we were maliciously trying to destroy him and his game in the midst of him losing his Patreon.
I can accept that this could have been handled better from our side with better communication, poor communication is unfortunately a common occurrence due to the time constraints we face and workload. A team member later explained the situation and the misunderstanding, trying to rectify the situation. However, at that point it was too late, the community and moderators were already considered the big baddies, and any positive relationship was irrevocable.

Regarding the care package releases; all rule 7 decisions are meant to go via Staff, and unfortunately that didn't happen in this case. November was never posted on the site. December was posted, but was mass reported (by some of the same members who decided to fight the spam filter earlier, so I assume December's incident was another coordinated effort on their Discord). A new moderator unfortunately made a mistake on Christmas Eve/Day in light of the mass reports, and deleted it without alerting Staff. We missed this, again, Christmas didn't help, and only found out about it when January's release was leaked, upon which we rectified the mistake.

Despite all the drama, and some inevitable animosity now from our side, none of the moderation team blame Selebus. We're all well aware of the nature of the site and developers being frustrated and annoyed is completely understandable, and I don't offer any excuses for the piracy nature of the site. Regardless of any drama, we wish all developers with games on the site all the best with their development, and it's in everyone's best interests to support the developers who create the content they enjoy.

Anyway, thank you for listening to my ted talk. If you would like to fund the movie adaption, please support us on Kickstarter. $10k donations get producer credit and a 20 meter wide tapestry of this entire thread, signed by all of your favorite moderators.
Pretty mature post. Good to see that at least some people nowadays are capeable of such.

While i do think this all goes a bit deeper, and i get both sides. The implications though, as i see them... I just hope it won't turn into a horrible backfire for some.
 

Black Raven

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I don't think the drama can ever truly ends. Selebus will never accept losing money over the instant leaks that happens here and F95 will never stop or even delay the pirating. It's like Israël VS Palestine except infinitely funnier and with less dead people (i think).

Plot twist idea for the movie : Selebus and Sam are actually the same person with a multiple personality disorder. I don't know about y'all but i'd definitely watch that.
 

Chained20

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I don't think the drama can ever truly ends. Selebus will never accept losing money over the instant leaks that happens here and F95 will never stop or even delay the pirating. It's like Israël VS Palestine except infinitely funnier and with less dead people (i think).

Plot twist idea for the movie : Selebus and Sam are actually the same person with a multiple personality disorder. I don't know about y'all but i'd definitely watch that.
id watch it
 

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I didn't intend to start a debate on Illusion and their copyright. I was just memeing and pointing out some hypocrisy. They don't really care and are focused on the Japanese market, so although it's against their EULA and copyright infringement, I can't see them caring about this game or any of the other western games using Illusion games for their renders.

Regarding F95 vs Selebus, gather around the fire and I'll tell you the tale, at least as I understand it.

He used to be an active member of the forums, and was very positive regarding the community. Even before creating his game, he was an active member (pirate), and even donated to the site. Things started to change when his game got bigger, and things eventually came to a head when he got kicked off of Patreon.
A little while after starting his SubscribeStar he kept editing the OP to put banners about the situation and asking people to move over to his SS. His changes broke the rather delicate game thread parser, which latest updates and a few other site features rely upon, and there was already a smaller message about the move which didn't break everything, as well as ongoing discussion in the thread itself. So, his OP edits were reverted, with a note asking him to be careful about the thread template. He restored the edits, they were removed yet again with an official warning. He restored them once more, and this time his edit access was revoked to prevent further changes. He seemingly took this to be a declaration of war and thought we were maliciously trying to destroy him and his game in the midst of him losing his Patreon.
I can accept that this could have been handled better from our side with better communication, poor communication is unfortunately a common occurrence due to the time constraints we face and workload. A team member later explained the situation and the misunderstanding, trying to rectify the situation. However, at that point it was too late, the community and moderators were already considered the big baddies, and any positive relationship was irrevocable.

Regarding the care package releases; all rule 7 decisions are meant to go via Staff, and unfortunately that didn't happen in this case. November was never posted on the site. December was posted, but was mass reported (by some of the same members who decided to fight the spam filter earlier, so I assume December's incident was another coordinated effort on their Discord). A new moderator unfortunately made a mistake on Christmas Eve/Day in light of the mass reports, and deleted it without alerting Staff. We missed this, again, Christmas didn't help, and only found out about it when January's release was leaked, upon which we rectified the mistake.

Despite all the drama, and some inevitable animosity now from our side, none of the moderation team blame Selebus. We're all well aware of the nature of the site and developers being frustrated and annoyed is completely understandable, and I don't offer any excuses for the piracy nature of the site. Regardless of any drama, we wish all developers with games on the site all the best with their development, and it's in everyone's best interests to support the developers who create the content they enjoy.

Anyway, thank you for listening to my ted talk. If you would like to fund the movie adaption, please support us on Kickstarter. $10k donations get producer credit and a 20 meter wide tapestry of this entire thread, signed by all of your favorite moderators.

I just imagine sam doing grouco marx gags with uppity devs dressed up as vaudevillians where he pretends to be accommodating but is really just trying to frustrate the crap out of them...
god speed.
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LidTheStanker

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I didn't know there was some kind of offensive lobbied against this site when I was making jokes about content distribution the other day and wanted to apologize for being part of it. I'm not in any discords and I am one of the thousands who would never know about any of these games if not for this site and forum. Hope things will chill out and we can talk about the good boobs
 

crustlord12

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Time to vent a bit after lurking here for a couple years and never posting.
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I am in the exact same boat you are. His behavior has led me to stop supporting him, he's acting like a dickhead and a petulant child. I move my subscription from Patreon over to his gamepass thing so that he would get the most money from it, but his attitude became more and more combative that it's just impossible to want to support that right now.
 

Bingoogus

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I am in the exact same boat you are. His behavior has led me to stop supporting him, he's acting like a dickhead and a petulant child. I move my subscription from Patreon over to his gamepass thing so that he would get the most money from it, but his attitude became more and more combative that it's just impossible to want to support that right now.
Might want to update your 'supporting' thing on your account then, still displays Selly and his defunct Patreon account.
 

ComplexOne2

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I didn't know there was some kind of offensive lobbied against this site when I was making jokes about content distribution the other day and wanted to apologize for being part of it. I'm not in any discords and I am one of the thousands who would never know about any of these games if not for this site and forum. Hope things will chill out and we can talk about the good boobs
I think the latest drama comes from Patreon exclusive content being leaked.
 

dathk321

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Congratulations to the F95 moderation team for finally formally accepting the banging of cartoon minors!
I knew you guys could do it!

Here's a sneak preview from the next care package!

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Just log out for about 2 days and went back with some questions.
Can anyone explain why he posts this bc he usually posts this kind of information about the character on discord rather than on f95?
And can someone summary the drama for me too much comment :v
 

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Just log out for about 2 days and went back with some questions.
Can anyone explain why he posts this bc he usually posts this kind of information about the character on discord rather than on f95?
And can someone summary the drama for me too much comment :v

I didn't intend to start a debate on Illusion and their copyright. I was just memeing and pointing out some hypocrisy. They don't really care and are focused on the Japanese market, so although it's against their EULA and copyright infringement, I can't see them caring about this game or any of the other western games using Illusion games for their renders.

Regarding F95 vs Selebus, gather around the fire and I'll tell you the tale, at least as I understand it.

He used to be an active member of the forums, and was very positive regarding the community. Even before creating his game, he was an active member (pirate), and even donated to the site. Things started to change when his game got bigger, and things eventually came to a head when he got kicked off of Patreon.
A little while after starting his SubscribeStar he kept editing the OP to put banners about the situation and asking people to move over to his SS. His changes broke the rather delicate game thread parser, which latest updates and a few other site features rely upon, and there was already a smaller message about the move which didn't break everything, as well as ongoing discussion in the thread itself. So, his OP edits were reverted, with a note asking him to be careful about the thread template. He restored the edits, they were removed yet again with an official warning. He restored them once more, and this time his edit access was revoked to prevent further changes. He seemingly took this to be a declaration of war and thought we were maliciously trying to destroy him and his game in the midst of him losing his Patreon.
I can accept that this could have been handled better from our side with better communication, poor communication is unfortunately a common occurrence due to the time constraints we face and workload. A team member later explained the situation and the misunderstanding, trying to rectify the situation. However, at that point it was too late, the community and moderators were already considered the big baddies, and any positive relationship was irrevocable.

Regarding the care package releases; all rule 7 decisions are meant to go via Staff, and unfortunately that didn't happen in this case. November was never posted on the site. December was posted, but was mass reported (by some of the same members who decided to fight the spam filter earlier, so I assume December's incident was another coordinated effort on their Discord). A new moderator unfortunately made a mistake on Christmas Eve/Day in light of the mass reports, and deleted it without alerting Staff. We missed this, again, Christmas didn't help, and only found out about it when January's release was leaked, upon which we rectified the mistake.

Despite all the drama, and some inevitable animosity now from our side, none of the moderation team blame Selebus. We're all well aware of the nature of the site and developers being frustrated and annoyed is completely understandable, and I don't offer any excuses for the piracy nature of the site. Regardless of any drama, we wish all developers with games on the site all the best with their development, and it's in everyone's best interests to support the developers who create the content they enjoy.

Anyway, thank you for listening to my ted talk. If you would like to fund the movie adaption, please support us on Kickstarter. $10k donations get producer credit and a 20 meter wide tapestry of this entire thread, signed by all of your favorite moderators.
 
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JohnnyRazer

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I am in the exact same boat you are. His behavior has led me to stop supporting him, he's acting like a dickhead and a petulant child. I move my subscription from Patreon over to his gamepass thing so that he would get the most money from it, but his attitude became more and more combative that it's just impossible to want to support that right now.
I can relate to that too. I put the reading on pause during prologue rework somewhere around March and stopped reading this thread likewise, relying only on occasional discord announcements, but even there I could see the changes and they didn't attract me much. And now I intend to get back and see the (un)funny poster in Discord. Curiosity gets the better of me, so I go here and see this disgrace. Some feuds are fine and inevitable to exist, but this is just lame and unappropriate.

As much as I'm not fond of f95 community with it's heaps of brainless coomers, I also dislike zealous simps from echo chamber of Discord, who are doing no less harm to Selebus in the long run than so called "piracy" here.

It's certainly not the end of the world and I still like the game a lot, but... Eh. I'm just a bit dissapointed in the man, but at this point whatever happens, happens. Don't know what exactly changed Selebus, at least I'm glad that I never succumbed to the many honest urges of supporting him financially (thanks to burning previously on a certain monster girl dev, right, Redamz?)
Probably can sleep with a clear conscience after this.
 

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Pretty mature post. Good to see that at least some people nowadays are capeable of such.

While i do think this all goes a bit deeper, and i get both sides. The implications though, as i see them... I just hope it won't turn into a horrible backfire for some.
The unfortunate part is that literally every single person involved, either in this thread or on discord, just wants a good game, and all we have to look forward to in future updates is more self-indulgent, immersion-breaking vitriol in the form of one of the characters going on another petulant fourth-wall-breaking rant to address more of the dev's personal grievances. I miss the pre-remake days :cautious:
 
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