Ren'Py Lessons in Love [v0.54.0] [Selebus]

[DeSkel15]

The body moves on its own if a person is aroused enough. This is what is happening, and is actually at least a little accurate, when you see a molestation scene and the victim starts getting wet from it, the body is reacting despite what the mind is thinking. It's part of the human breeding instinct, the body is preparing for mating, secreting Oxytocin and Dopamine to put the host in a state where it would be easier on them. For Yumi, that would have been in the form of returning the kiss even though she obviously didn't consent and wasn't happy getting it in the first place emotionally, her body reacted even though her mind resisted. There's actually some pretty interesting real world biological science at play here.

At this point, as of at least the first Christmas event, possibly earlier, I do think there are genuine feelings involved and she's just too embarrassed to admit it not to mention probably still dealing with the memory of the previous bad times.

The new RWC event does seem to better set up what comes after, but it also, as some have talked about, doesn't have the same level of impact. The first one actually terrified some people, hence why we got questions about the horror element and if it is skippable, which is a resounding no due to the importance of those events and the lack of mechanics to do so.


I agree she may have already had some mental and emotional damage done to her, if not physical, but I do have to wonder if rape was involved. There could even have been a situation that didn't quite get to rape, but did get into sexual assault. Regardless of how far sexual abuse gets, it can be seriously damaging, especially at a young age. Wizard Maya would be at a point where she was even more impressionable and much more vulnerable to lasting effects from even the most minor of abuses of a sexual nature, especially if repeated as it may very well have been if true.


I do believe this also played a part, she was raised in the Yakuza underworld, a dark place where you do have to be strong on your own to survive and can trust no one. On top of that, she never learned what it was her parents' job to teach her, Yuki was too busy with her drugs and who knows what Yumi's father was doing besides running his gang. Neither cared nor were they in a position to take care of her even if they did and Yumi suffered immensely because of it. Yumi learned everything she knows the hard way, that only she is able to protect herself and no one else but her is reliable when it comes to what she needs. It's no wonder she shut herself off from the world around her and toughened up into someone with a no mercy attitude.

"The body moves on its own if a person is aroused enough." Hence Yumi likely, at least, physically found what happened arousing in the moment. If anything, I wouldn't doubt that's a big reason it affected her so much. Subconsciously liking something you know you should abhor, has to be a mindfuck. Perhaps it even awakened something in her, again, based off 'Neon Heart':

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One can't really help what they end up finding attractive.

"The first one actually terrified some people, hence why we got questions about the horror element and if it is skippable", Interesting, I had assumed people were just less, well, tolerable of this kind of stuff at some point. What exactly was terrifying about the previous version?

Yeah the Maya stuff is just a theory so far. More data is needed.

Imma just say, I see Yumi's backstory a lot like Io does:

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And leave it at that. I feel like I've been awfully venomous the past few days, and I at least think Yumi has some excuse for her actions, and has at least grown some. Just not nearly enough, and I rather not drown in my own poison, lmao.

 

[DeSkel15]

So, random, anyone else find this a little hilarious?:

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Ami and Touka rarely ever converse, and this is apparently what happens when they do.

 

[1804maya]

Yep, sorry it seems that i ate an "s", i wanted to write "the other ones". I was asking for the others i have with the white side.
My bad

all these should be dark except for august care package (warning if you dont have care packages installed dont copy over any care package menu images unless you installed them officially or with drm patch)

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[DSasha]

I just find this site a couple days ago and I was reading old replies and stuff while playing the game and so...
I was waiting to reach the last update for me to start posting here and bring in my own theories and that kind of things but man, I just watched "Lavender's Green" and... cmon, this game is so fucking depressing.
Somehow I was waiting that when Selebus would finally reach the end of the game we could get like a "happy ending" or something, but after reading this I don't even know if I want to keep reading this...

I mean, til this point, the game has been enough sad with all of the Sensei being raped by his sister in law, then all the drama in his life, all the drama in the girls life, all the shitty things happening, but now I think that this is too much; despite some stuff that I didn't like, somehow I used to thought about Sensei like a good guy, just... with a lot of traumas and too little perception about the world he is in (or even who he really is), and I still kinda think he's trully not bad (For all I saw he usually says that he doesn't care, that he is a bad person, and then proceed to do the exact opposite thing) but this is just so hurtful for me, and now I can't stop crying

 

[DeSkel15]

I just find this site a couple days ago and I was reading old replies and stuff while playing the game and so...
I was waiting to reach the last update for me to start posting here and bring in my own theories and that kind of things but man, I just watched "Lavender's Green" and... cmon, this game is so fucking depressing.
Somehow I was waiting that when Selebus would finally reach the end of the game we could get like a "happy ending" or something, but after reading this I don't even know if I want to keep reading this...

I mean, til this point, the game has been enough sad with all of the Sensei being raped by his sister in law, then all the drama in his life, all the drama in the girls life, all the shitty things happening, but now I think that this is too much; despite some stuff that I didn't like, somehow I used to thought about Sensei like a good guy, just... with a lot of traumas and too little perception about the world he is in (or even who he really is), and I still kinda think he's trully not bad (For all I saw he usually says that he doesn't care, that he is a bad person, and then proceed to do the exact opposite thing) but this is just so hurtful for me, and now I can't stop crying

Kind of spoilers/kind of a warning:

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The game itself seems to suggest things will only get worse. If it's already too much, then it's probably not something you'd want to continue. Unless of course, you can't resist.

 

[Wardtnaci]

Preview Pt3

Spoiler: As we head into Ch. 4

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[DeSkel15]

Preview Pt3

Spoiler: As we head into Ch. 4

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Hm. LiL Berserk Egg?:

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Let's HOPE that's the only reference to Berserk in this Reset, or we might all need a break.

I can suddenly relate to the Shapeshifter:

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[alex2011]

"The body moves on its own if a person is aroused enough." Hence Yumi likely, at least, physically found what happened arousing in the moment. If anything, I wouldn't doubt that's a big reason it affected her so much. Subconsciously liking something you know you should abhor, has to be a mindfuck. Perhaps it even awakened something in her, again, based off 'Neon Heart':

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One can't really help what they end up finding attractive.

"The first one actually terrified some people, hence why we got questions about the horror element and if it is skippable", Interesting, I had assumed people were just less, well, tolerable of this kind of stuff at some point. What exactly was terrifying about the previous version?

Yeah the Maya stuff is just a theory so far. More data is needed.

Imma just say, I see Yumi's backstory a lot like Io does:

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And leave it at that. I feel like I've been awfully venomous the past few days, and I at least think Yumi has some excuse for her actions, and has at least grown some. Just not nearly enough, and I rather not drown in my own poison, lmao.

Oh, she definitely did even if she hated it on an emotional level.

It is a mix of factors really. Some people with a lower horror tolerance went in, possibly, thinking that this was just another one of those other Koikatsu games that are so common here only to find out that it not only leans heavily into the story compared to practically everything else, but were treated to what was quite literally a textbook jumpscare. Not in the FNAF sense where something jumps in your face to trigger a fight or flight response, but in the sense that it was so sudden and without warning within the game that it was coming at that point. It was also the single most intense and best executed horror element scene in the entire game and it still is even if it lost some of its impact.

We definitely need more on Maya, but I suppose we'll get that soon enough, when she gets an update to her story.

So, random, anyone else find this a little hilarious?:

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Ami and Touka rarely ever converse, and this is apparently what happens when they do.

Well, I know which two girls I'd want to be in the same room with and I don't mean for their bodies. Not gonna lie, that conversation made me snicker a bit. Putting the rich girl with barely any experience on the spot like that, well played.

I just find this site a couple days ago and I was reading old replies and stuff while playing the game and so...
I was waiting to reach the last update for me to start posting here and bring in my own theories and that kind of things but man, I just watched "Lavender's Green" and... cmon, this game is so fucking depressing.
Somehow I was waiting that when Selebus would finally reach the end of the game we could get like a "happy ending" or something, but after reading this I don't even know if I want to keep reading this...

I mean, til this point, the game has been enough sad with all of the Sensei being raped by his sister in law, then all the drama in his life, all the drama in the girls life, all the shitty things happening, but now I think that this is too much; despite some stuff that I didn't like, somehow I used to thought about Sensei like a good guy, just... with a lot of traumas and too little perception about the world he is in (or even who he really is), and I still kinda think he's trully not bad (For all I saw he usually says that he doesn't care, that he is a bad person, and then proceed to do the exact opposite thing) but this is just so hurtful for me, and now I can't stop crying

He was never a good guy nor was he written to be, he's one of the worst characters morally speaking. He's not pure evil, but he is nowhere near good. As for a good ending, well, endings are far off from where the game is at, like multiple years of development away, and truly good endings are extremely rare in the genre this game belongs to, so that's very likely not going to happen, though there could be endings that are more light hearted. I'm gonna have to put it out there that we aren't even at the darkest point in the game yet, though. You probably would be better off finding another based on what you said.

Hm. LiL Berserk Egg?:

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Let's HOPE that's the only reference to Berserk in this Reset, or we might all need a break.

I can suddenly relate to the Shapeshifter:

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Oh...oh no, I think we may have underestimated where Sel is going with this story. Well, I made my bed, gotta lie in it now, I'm in this one to the end, too far in to stop.

 

[DeSkel15]

Oh...oh no, I think we may have underestimated where Sel is going with this story. Well, I made my bed, gotta lie in it now, I'm in this one to the end, too far in to stop.

Oh, I actually kind of figured something like, well, "Berserk" might happen since the Trinity 'Hell is Empty' Happy Event:

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Just not this soon...

I'm hoping there won't be a "Casca".. albeit, I can't say I'd be surprised. There's been hints:

Spoiler: IGNORANCE IS BLISS

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And I think we all know who would fit that role the best. For some reason though, I'm a little worried about Makoto in particular. Not entirely sure why.

 

[alex2011]

Oh, I actually kind of figured something like, well, "Berserk" might happen since the Trinity 'Hell is Empty' Happy Event:

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Just not this soon...

I'm hoping there won't be a "Casca".. albeit, I can't say I'd be surprised. There's been hints:

Spoiler: IGNORANCE IS BLISS

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And I think we all know who would fit that role the best. For some reason though, I'm a little worried about Makoto in particular. Not entirely sure why.

If he's making Berserk references, and he quite clearly is, I would have to assume that he's going the Casca route unless there's some sort of technical limit that stops him. Having worked in the studio, I can basically confirm there is no such limit, at least not a limit big enough to stop that.

Casca was probably one of the most disturbing parts of Berserk, so I could very easily see something like that in LiL. If this wasn't a Denpa game, I would have severe doubts, but something like the Casca thing is well within the Denpa genre. I do hope the feint of heart have gotten the warning message by the time this comes to pass because that stuff was seriously messed up in Berserk. There's a reason that character is the way she is after. There's also potential for him to go...worse. If he manages that, I will be very impressed, horrified, but impressed.

 

[throwawaysponge]

Oh, I actually kind of figured something like, well, "Berserk" might happen since the Trinity 'Hell is Empty' Happy Event:

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Just not this soon...

I'm hoping there won't be a "Casca".. albeit, I can't say I'd be surprised. There's been hints:

Spoiler: IGNORANCE IS BLISS

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And I think we all know who would fit that role the best. For some reason though, I'm a little worried about Makoto in particular. Not entirely sure why.

Spoiler: Berserk and other things

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[Angiboat]

Preview Pt3

Spoiler: As we head into Ch. 4

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Oh god, not the Egg of the Perfect World...

 

[DeSkel15]

Spoiler: Berserk and other things

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Assuming that Sensei's role is as "Guts". I wouldn't be surprised if his role is actually as "Griffith". Especially after that 'Frankencense and Myrrh' Yasu event:

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Although there's a few characters I can also see playing that role: Ami, Ayane, Maya, Nodoka, Sekai, The Shapeshifter, Yasu, etc.

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[butterfly boy]

Oh, I actually kind of figured something like, well, "Berserk" might happen since the Trinity 'Hell is Empty' Happy Event:

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Just not this soon...

I'm hoping there won't be a "Casca".. albeit, I can't say I'd be surprised. There's been hints:

Spoiler: IGNORANCE IS BLISS

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And I think we all know who would fit that role the best. For some reason though, I'm a little worried about Makoto in particular. Not entirely sure why.

I'm not really familiar with Berserk, are we talking about "death" bad or "endless torture" bad?

 

[DeSkel15]

I'm not really familiar with Berserk, are we talking about "death" bad or "endless torture" bad?

Well, probably the most famous/infamous part of "Berserk" involved: Betrayal, Cuckolding, Dismemberment, Fetus Corruption (?), Human Devourment, Mass Murder, Mindbreaking, Ritual Sacrificing, Sexual Violation, etc, all around the same time. It's known as "The Eclipse" if you want to know more.

So, yeah, things might get a little Callous.

 

[DeSkel15]

Fans of LiL, and "Berserk", moments after seeing the Egg:

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[ccxvidonaferens]

Fans of LiL, and "Berserk", moments after seeing the Egg:

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Why am I blanking on the image in this post? I seriously do not remember it.

 

[DeSkel15]

Why am I blanking on the image in this post? I seriously do not remember it.

It's from Futaba's most recent event 'Fish Eyes'.

 

[AbsoluteA522]

Alright im dead serious when i say that if sel even DARES to hint about making that one traumatizing berserk scene.. i will literally skip the entire update and download a finished save file just to not see it.

im not a coward or soft or anything like that. in fact berserk was one of my first and favorite and still my favorite manga.

But that scene really made me feel things at the time.

 

[barglenarglezous]

Preview Pt3

Either we're getting a reset, or they let Yasu handle the decorations. *ba dum tis*

You might be misinterpreting the 4, though. This is the 4th Halloween update, thus Halloween 4. That would be accurate regardless of whether the reset happens before or after.

The chapter 1 conclusion was Reset > Christmas Party > Cliffhanger (school collapse) > end of Chapter 1 card.