Ren'Py Lessons in Love [v0.54.0] [Selebus]

[TheLarceny]

Do you really feel that's the right way to describe what happend? Rape? We know for a fact that Maya would love nothing more to be fucking him every chance she gets, it's the bullshit universe's fault she has to restrain herself but does that fact really meant she doesn't consent? This isn't a case of a dude saying she was asking for it, or deep down she liked it, we KNOW Maya wants it, her consent is effectively a given, always, anyway, anyhow, she's not denying him sex cause she doesn't want it, it's purely cause it'd kill him and she doesn't want him to die. Even whilst being 'raped' she says blackout sex is the best and is overjoyed to finally be getting some even if she's dying during it so describing it as rape really gets under my skin, for all the rapey shit that happens in this game, this just ain't one of them and it undermines the definition of that word, it's weight and its purpose.

Well you are right, but Im not exactly interested in her sex with sensei
Im more on that matter whether the sex caused the Maya popped or popping her was something that would happen this reset, with or without sex
And honestly making that clear wouldnt have any benefit for lore making at least for myself
Its just a curiosity that I have

I personally didnt think of rape at first but yeah Maya would even consent that with him
But if it was forced on her by blackouted Sensei even we know they both wanted that, it started forced so for that I called it rape
But again you are right, they were both desperate for eachother

 

[yomamasass]

Hello, I may be a little behind the curve but I remember there being a planned SFW version, what happened to it? I have a friend whom I would like to suggest this game to but they ain't really into this whole sex thingy (who is totally not me, I am a strong heterosexual male who produces lots of sperm). I searched the game files and found out SFW version title is there, that might be bad housekeeping on selebus'es side. But I couldn't find any SFW versions on subscribestar or itchio. Was this never implemented or is it dropped or am I just blind?

 

[barglenarglezous]

Hello, I may be a little behind the curve but I remember there being a planned SFW version, what happened to it? I have a friend whom I would like to suggest this game to but they ain't really into this whole sex thingy (who is totally not me, I am a strong heterosexual male who produces lots of sperm). I searched the game files and found out SFW version title is there, that might be bad housekeeping on selebus'es side. But I couldn't find any SFW versions on subscribestar or itchio. Was this never implemented or is it dropped or am I just blind?

The SFW version was a creation of convenience only, created when Patreon refused to carry the NSFW version anymore.

It died the day Patreon took his page down, anyway. That was back around the end of 2021, IIRC.

 

[yomamasass]

The SFW version was a creation of convenience only, created when Patreon refused to carry the NSFW version anymore.

It died the day Patreon took his page down, anyway. That was back around the end of 2021, IIRC.

Hmm, so where can I find this mythical SFW version? I'm sure some fellas making archives of the game right? If the version isn't ancient (and 2021 sounds quite ancient) I can still give it to my totally real friend whomst totally isn't me (seriously I like woman).

 

[DeSkel15]

Do you really feel that's the right way to describe what happend? Rape? We know for a fact that Maya would love nothing more to be fucking him every chance she gets, it's the bullshit universe's fault she has to restrain herself but does that fact really meant she doesn't consent? This isn't a case of a dude saying she was asking for it, or deep down she liked it, we KNOW Maya wants it, her consent is effectively a given, always, anyway, anyhow, she's not denying him sex cause she doesn't want it, it's purely cause it'd kill him and she doesn't want him to die. Even whilst being 'raped' she says blackout sex is the best and is overjoyed to finally be getting some even if she's dying during it so describing it as rape really gets under my skin, for all the rapey shit that happens in this game, this just ain't one of them and it undermines the definition of that word, it's weight and its purpose.

Maya wanted sex with Sensei, but she didn't actually want sex with a black out Sensei that was definitely lethal to her (which she probably wasn't even aware of until it was too late). Even if it felt good, one of her last words is that she didn't want to disappear:

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And this is technically only a fraction of Maya that we actually see. A Maya that only really has Sensei left in her mind:

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as everything else had already been taken from her before Sensei even realized what was going on. Even the day itself seemed to be vague at best to her, and she had a reminder:

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By the time Sensei actually showed up, what was left of Maya seemed to just be wanting to make the best out of a shitty situation:

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It's honestly worse than rape, but I can't think of a better word for it. Even actual rape doesn't mindwipe you while it happens. Although, it's not the Sensei we know, that did this. It's likely the version of him that saw everyone as fleshlights:

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The one who did similar to Sara, and probably Molly.

I do think stuff like statutory rape and actual rape should be differentiated though, even if like Sekai seemed to point out, both are technically rape:

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This however is more akin to simply having someone you love get drunk then force themselves on you violently, to the point you are brain damaged due to it.

 

[Apollo259]

Considering this occurs around the time Ami is apparently sacrificed and "loving those who always go away" is plural, I think this is probably more related to Ami.

Maya's stuff doesn't happen until after this.

Also for anyone interested, there should be a mp3 called "song.mp3" in the game files. This voice appears in it around 4:12.

I took that line to be referring to how Maya has said she did not really care about anyone anymore after seeing them reset however many times.
I guess " it's carapace remains" is probably referring to the hollow shell of Akira that was supposedly what was with her for thousands of resets.
So maybe its just meant to be an echo of past thoughts or state of mind or something like that.

But the main reason I think its "a" Maya is as far as I remember it is the same voice that repeats the "do you remember the first time you told me you loved me" paragraph in previous events. I'm happy to be wrong if someone remembers differently, but I don't remember it being used in relation to other characters.

 

[k1n5l4y3r]

Hmm, so where can I find this mythical SFW version? I'm sure some fellas making archives of the game right? If the version isn't ancient (and 2021 sounds quite ancient) I can still give it to my totally real friend whomst totally isn't me (seriously I like woman).

You can download URM and set the variable Bonus to false and it should play the Huggy Boy version.
But since it stoped being updated, if you want to continue playing after that you're gonna have to swallow some sex scenes, but as you're going to see Selebus is also not much of a fan of sex and the scenes are very unappealing and some are even skiped altogether.

 

[DeSkel15]

I took that line to be referring to how Maya has said she did not really care about anyone anymore after seeing them reset however many times.
I guess " it's carapace remains" is probably referring to the hollow shell of Akira that was supposedly what was with her for thousands of resets.
So maybe its just meant to be an echo of past thoughts or state of mind or something like that.

But the main reason I think its "a" Maya is as far as I remember it is the same voice that repeats the "do you remember the first time you told me you loved me" paragraph in previous events. I'm happy to be wrong if someone remembers differently, but I don't remember it being used in relation to other characters.

The voice in "sleepsong.mp3" and "song.mp3", do sound similar. What I meant though, is this time she may be referring to Ami (sacrifice, carapace, love). Maya just saw a corpse of someone she claims to love:

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and saw no reason to stay, immediately going to get Sensei.

Maya is used to those she loves (Sensei and Ami) going away. The 10 fingers part does definitely make it seem like she's talking about later though.

 

[DeSkel15]

Random, and it's not exactly something that comes up much, but to be frank, Maya was probably the closest to an Aunt that Ami actually had. Maya was secretly dating Ami's uncle for years before everything went to shit.

It's not entirely clear, but Maya may have even seen Ami somewhat as her niece, which could be why Maya has always been nice and supportive of Ami:

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Of course, Maya secretly fucking Ami's uncle behind her back since before they met in middle school, probably made this relationship between her and Ami, complicated. (Also the supposedly psycho Ami stuff probably plays a part in modern(?) times)

It's something some of the girls don't really seem to think about. Ami and Sensei are family. Getting with Sensei should make you part of Ami's family. Most of the girls just want Sensei's dick, though. lmao.

Still, the more mature girls get this. It's likely why Niki notably cares about Ami, worrying about and buying her things, and why Chika is trying to not make Ami completely hate her.

Then there's Ayane:

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[Apollo259]

The voice in "sleepsong.mp3" and "song.mp3", do sound similar. What I meant though, is this time she may be referring to Ami (sacrifice, carapace, love). Maya just saw a corpse of someone she claims to love:

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and saw no reason to stay, immediately going to get Sensei.

Maya is used to those she loves (Sensei and Ami) going away. The 10 fingers part does definitely make it seem like she's talking about later though.

I see what you are saying. I think the song played before they go out in the hallway and cuts off before they see Ami though. I guess ill replay it later and check. But yes I guess either way you can interpret it as being about everyone she loves. And not only Akira.

 

[barglenarglezous]

Hmm, so where can I find this mythical SFW version? I'm sure some fellas making archives of the game right? If the version isn't ancient (and 2021 sounds quite ancient) I can still give it to my totally real friend whomst totally isn't me (seriously I like woman).

Unless there's been a drastic change in the code, it's still artifacted within the file structure.

The way he set up the game during that period, the core files were Legend of Huggy Boy (the SFW version), and all the NSFW content was sequestered to a couple of folders that Patreon subscribers had to download in a patch, so in theory if you delete those folders, you should be able to play the SFW version.

game/images/subscribestar
game/scripts/subscribestar

No guarantees that it'll work, and also no guarantee that when you get to the point in the story where the SFW version stopped being supported it wouldn't revert to the NSFW version.

 

[JelF547]

Honestly, at this point, I think people really just don't want to even think that Sensei actually ended up raping Maya to death.

The argument is that Sensei have felt incoming reset and Maya haven't looks quiet strong for now.

Actualy, on the topic of blackout sex: how come Sensei never had blackout sex with Ami despite constantly being blacked out aroung her after Sekai's death? Is it a new development?

 

[Bingoogus]

The argument is that Sensei have felt incoming reset and Maya haven't looks quiet strong for now.

Actualy, on the topic of blackout sex: how come Sensei never had blackout sex with Ami despite constantly being blacked out aroung her after Sekai's death? Is it a new development?

Ah... you say it hasn't happened based on...? What? We haven't seen it? That's hardly proof it has never happened... not like she'd tell him would she? Maybe that's what she was referring to when she said 'well i've got news for you', or maybe not, who knows, it's a blackout and Ami both takes care of him and advantage of him when he's blacked out..

 

[DeSkel15]

The argument is that Sensei have felt incoming reset and Maya haven't looks quiet strong for now.

Actualy, on the topic of blackout sex: how come Sensei never had blackout sex with Ami despite constantly being blacked out aroung her after Sekai's death? Is it a new development?

Sensei really didn't seem to want to fuck Ami pre resets. Blacking out doesn't change a person's interests. Just their limitations. Like Alcohol. (At least in reality)

It doesn't seem to be a new development though. Maya seemed to imply he's been like this since the tutoring days:

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and she seems to have been the main victim of it, at least until the resets:

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Sensei definitely seemed to have an unhealthy obsession with Maya:

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[JelF547]

Ah... you say it hasn't happened based on...? What? We haven't seen it? That's hardly proof it has never happened... not like she'd tell him would she? Maybe that's what she was referring to when she said 'well i've got news for you', or maybe not, who knows, it's a blackout and Ami both takes care of him and advantage of him when he's blacked out..

Based on Ami being a virging in the begining of chapter 1

Sensei really didn't seem to want to fuck Ami pre resets. Blacking out doesn't change a person's interests. Just their limitations. Like Alcohol. (At least in reality)

Well, seems legit

 

[R3burn]

i download these kkcards and made this

 

[Bingoogus]

i download these kkcards and made this
View attachment 3045130

There's a fanart thread linked in the first post.

 

[R3burn]

There's a fanart thread linked in the first post.

thanks,i will post there too

 

[darklorgon]

hello all, mi save is from 0.29, i quite miss some updates, and now my save not working, what should i do?

this was my last save on "shelter"

 

[BlackDays]

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Spoiler: Maya

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