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Antosha

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Well this is weird as shit. The images appear to contain hidden data that (I think) was placed there deliberately, but most of it is meaningless.

amisroomonefive25.webp was still normal in 0.39. Starting with 0.40, each full game version includes a new version of the image with different corruption. The data in the files is identical except for one block starting at offset 0x8000 that is exactly 0x1000 bytes (4KiB) long.

The modified bytes in the 0.40 image themselves contain an image file, specifically a tiny jpeg showing Singapore's ArtScience Museum. This is smaller than the 4KiB block, the rest of which is padded with zeros.
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The modified bytes in the 0.41 image are text that looks like it could be encoding for something, but I don't recognize the format.
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The 0.42 image is identical to the 0.40 one.

Here's where it gets even weirder. Each of 0.43 to 0.45 contains data that is at least partially meaningful when viewed as text, but they all seem to have to do with mundane windows services.

0.43 is an XML config file for windows update (with a bunch of zeroed bytes padding it out).
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0.44 contains references to WaaSMedic, a service related to windows update. The meaningful part here is short, the rest is padded out with ones.
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0.45 mostly isn't interpretable as text, but it does have "EBFGONED" near the start, which google suggests is part of the header for OneDrive log files.
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It's hard for me to imagine a mechanism by which this could have happened accidentally, especially when you consider that this one 4KiB block in one image out of thousands is the only thing being corrupted, the data in the corrupted block keeps changing, and two non-consecutive images (0.40 and 0.42) have the same complete jpeg inserted in them.

On the other hand, I can't imagine what this is supposed to accomplish if it is deliberate. Is it an elaborate troll? Is it setup for future DRM (but then why repeatedly edit the file instead of only once)? And why is the changed image not in the update patches?

I'll attach the original images and the extracted binary in case anyone else wants to play around with this.
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Hmm. Fascinating.

We know that Sel has screwed around by adding code inside images before. These additions, however, seem so random that I can't see them being intentional.

I'm imagining him writing a script to compile/compress each release—and inadvertently including a line to paste whatever's in his buffer into the middle of that file. So whatever's open when he runs the script gets dumped in there.

Or it could be some mad genius thing that we're just too stupid to understand. :unsure:
 

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Speaking of finding something unexpected from replaying, can any of you guys check your Ami's event Important Things or more specifically, an image file named "amisroomonefive25"? Mine looks...glitched.
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At first I thought I doodled too much and might have overwritten something by accident, but I was thoroughly vexed when I found out that image files with the same name straight out of fresh downloads of v0.41, v0.42, or v0.45 from subscriberstar all look like that (in fact the the one in v0.45 is even more glitched); for now the only source I have that gives the "correct image" is an old v0.28 copy of mine.
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I am guessing the reason why I now have the glitched image is because of the renpy upgrade that forced me to download the entire copy instead of simply doing update patch.
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Dear God something is trying claw its way out of the game.
 

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Hey folks. I remember playing this game years ago on Android before switching phones. Can't find the mobile link anymore. Is it joiplay only now? Or just strictly PC?

Honestly I remember not even playing for the porn, I just want *ANSWERS*
 

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How much time do you have?
OK, freak shit aside, what's the point of developing a game this way ? Serious hard on for having everything done your way ? I haven't played since maybe chapter 2 was released and replaying the game, I can't imagine anyone has ever gotten all the scenes without URM and the guide mods. It's just not possible especially considering the most useless decisions in the game end up locking you out of entire event chains. It was annoying before but with this much content it's just a chore. He doesn't even want people to play the game.
 

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anybody mind sharing the specifics of the importance of the "shampoo?" in my playthrough, if removed from the fridge it would lead to a game over so I never took it. is there more to the shampoo than that?
It's a troll that either bricks your save, or makes it worse by preventing you from going to the dorms if you avoid the bricking. It you kept it all this time it would have been removed during the 0.45 happy event, though you wouldn't get the Maya2 profile outfit and no special variable is set for doing so. Taking the shampoo is 100% a detriment to your save file unless Sel specifically checks for the lack of Maya2 profile pic at a point after 0.45 (so can't be one of the generic events, but he could do the thing he did for senseiissad and wrap everything in an idential looking menu but code wise is different)

This is technically something he's willing to do but it breaks his usual practice of making a specific variable and then checking if it's true. (instead checking for false after a point it should be true)

Might be worth writing a script that diffs all game files between updates to catch stuff like this
The biggest problem with this is you only see the changes if you download a new copy of the 10gb game every month. Semi hefty ask.

Whelp, guess no one has or could find a good enough image for my Big Penis™ joke...
Think people gave up after the dick head post people laughed at.
 

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Whelp, guess no one has or could find a good enough image for my Big Penis™ joke...
This is the best I could find without looking for too long. There will be a better one because it was pretty early in the game.
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But I cant say I have many Big Penis™'s saved outside of the ones in my funny screenshot folder and I don't think they will count.
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This is the best I could find without looking for too long. There will be a better one because it was pretty early in the game.
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But I cant say I have many Big Penis™'s saved outside of the ones in my funny screenshot folder and I don't think they will count.
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Damn, that image is almost completely perfect for my needs, but he is lying down... tch.

That second image, even cleaned up would more suit Huge Penis™.
 
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It's a troll that either bricks your save, or makes it worse by preventing you from going to the dorms if you avoid the bricking. It you kept it all this time it would have been removed during the 0.45 happy event, though you wouldn't get the Maya2 profile outfit and no special variable is set for doing so. Taking the shampoo is 100% a detriment to your save file unless Sel specifically checks for the lack of Maya2 profile pic at a point after 0.45 (so can't be one of the generic events, but he could do the thing he did for senseiissad and wrap everything in an idential looking menu but code wise is different)
Can't you just go to the door in that event twice? If I remember correctly, going to the door requires shampoo or not having the Maya2 profile outfit, so the first time it will remove your shampoo, and the second time it will give you the outfit, does it make the dorm events available before the reset unavailable after the reset though, I didn't think they were missable.
 

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Whelp, guess no one has or could find a good enough image for my Big Penis™ joke...
Wha-! You meant to tell me that my dickhead didn't win? Oh fie!

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Hope these sate you!
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Can't you just go to the door in that event twice? If I remember correctly, going to the door requires shampoo or not having the Maya2 profile outfit, so the first time it will remove your shampoo, and the second time it will give you the outfit, does it make the dorm events available before the reset unavailable after the reset though, I didn't think they were missable.
You're right which means there's no point in taking the shampoo, it's indistinguishable from someone who didn't take it at this point. All I can see is the door is optional in the first place?
 

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I need to ask, weren't people saying they couldn't talk to Maya in the dorms after 0.45? At least they could only talk to her in the hallway? I can get the generic room events. I thought the bug was her showing up in the hallway when it should be impossible to talk to her.
 

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You're right which means there's no point in taking the shampoo, it's indistinguishable from someone who didn't take it at this point. All I can see is the door is optional in the first place?
Yes, and if you miss your opportunity to get rid of it, your save is bricked (until you get rid of it by changing the variable), it's just Selebus being a troll again, although the biggest troll yet is definitely how to get the Alexis Happy Event, that's just pure evil for those that don't have a save for the Amy Event (because why would anyone).
 

Antosha

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I need to ask, weren't people saying they couldn't talk to Maya in the dorms after 0.45? At least they could only talk to her in the hallway? I can get the generic room events. I thought the bug was her showing up in the hallway when it should be impossible to talk to her.
IIRC, you can talk to her in the dorm, but if you go to the shrine you still get the glitched out earlier non-event. Her relationship with Akira is changing—Sensei no longer seems to blank out when she's in front of him. In either case, one or the other is wrong.
 
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I need to ask, weren't people saying they couldn't talk to Maya in the dorms after 0.45? At least they could only talk to her in the hallway? I can get the generic room events. I thought the bug was her showing up in the hallway when it should be impossible to talk to her.
From what I saw there are two things people were were complaining back then.
- Mechanistically you can get her generic room event, but Sensei shouldn't be able to or absolutely do not want to visit Maya's dorm according to the plot. Her room option not getting disabled was considered by several to be an oversight.

- At this moment in Ch4, dorm hallway is supposed to be always empty. However, by inviting over certain girls and finishing their generic events, the script afterwards falsely drops you back to Ch3 menu and EVERYTHING goes back to what it was like in Ch3, talking to girls in the hallway, visiting Chika at the mall, etc. This is instead an actual bug and not just an oversight.

Doesn't the shampoo block you from the happy event on the dorms? I'd say that's a big consequence.
Correct. Currently You have one chance to get rid off the shampoo, that is during reset7 part2 puzzle when you "Open a door". If you're don't, by the end of v0.45 you will be and remain soaplocked from not just Arms Bent Back but also two Futaba's events, Weapons of Mass Destruction and My Curse, until further notice.
edit: the option of giving away shampoo in Ayane's As You Wish actually does nothing. Incorrect info removed.

There may be another chance (maybe an unavoidable one) to get rid off it forever, as Sensei at some point HAS to officially start going back to visiting dorm, but one really can't rule out the possibility of Selly wanting to keep punishing those he deems worthy of it for extended period of time.
 
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