Ren'Py Lessons in Love [v0.55.0] [Selebus]

[jamyong]

Well, then there is still the problem of product positioning. Why should I read all the author have ever said to understand what kind of game I see in front of me? This game from the first glance (and second, and third, I don't buy\download thing after just first look) looks exactly like any normal porn game and if you're still gonna say, that this is the author intent, then fuck this guy, he is just moron who somehow milking money from people who have never heard about utsuge.

it’s pretty obvious what this game is about without reading external comments from the author, especially with the revamped version. by the first happy event it’s clear that this is not gonna be a porn game as you’d expect from the preview images. if it took you 6 hours to realize that this isn’t for you then sorry but that’s on you. most people who hate this game realize it’s not for them or doesn’t align with their expectations far sooner than that.

is this the right platform for the game to be available on? that’s debatable. is the game misleading in some ways from the tags and preview images? yeah probably. but once you start the game, especially with the revamped version, the game does not hide at all from what it wants to be.

 

[ProudHomophobic]

I've been reading this for like 6 hours and got no ero scenes involving mc except one with groping tits with t-shirt on. The most boring porn I have ever read, so far, but I'm trying to not concentrate on one girl only like the game suggests. Who the hell needs all this information about girls repeated over and over without any at least ecchi stuff? I got that the one girl is shy, the second one is also shy, but chubby, the third like sports and so on. Why author keeps feeding me with this shit? And I'm not mentioning all this horror crap, which ruins the mood from time to time. Personally I love horrors, but damn, this is porn with cute girls, not some guro bullshit.

game is fine and enjoyable but its annoying sometimes.

 

[Detective Dc345]

the creator is currently making the 'true route' which require all girls, he said he was going to then do single girl routes after that... but I'm not really sure if he can still do that or has changed his mind since that comment.

Sel said on his itch.io profile that LiL is like less than 20 or 25% (I can remember the exact amount) complete. I wonder how much of the game the "true route" is ?

 

[barglenarglezous]

Sel said on his itch.io profile that LiL is like less than 20 or 25% (I can remember the exact amount) complete. I wonder how much of the game the "true route" is ?

Phase 1 -- harem route. We are here. By Sel's words, it will never be a true harem, but this part of the game is the closest we're going to get to one. Consider it a subversion of the trope rather than an actual harem.
Phase 2 -- dark phase. We're seeing hints of it, but we're not there yet. Expect heads to roll. Literally. I suspect that will start the next time Winter starts.
Phase 3 -- Purity routes. These are individual one-girl endings that will be added one at a time in a more or less random order. When a girl's route is completed, the game will kick you back to the selection point so you can pick a different girl.
Phase4 -- True ending. Only available after seeing all purity routes.

He has outright stated the true ending is not a harem ending. It will probably be a breaking of the cycle and resolution to the Happy arc (conjecture on my part)

I would guess that each purity route that gets added will be a full update's worth of content, and there will probably be purity routes for all 20 main girls and some of the side girls (Niki, Sara and Karin would make sense for purity routes. Yuki, Maki, and the children less so)

Based on the percentages Sel has given so far, Harem route will probably be up to %40 of the game, and dark route about as much.

 

[El_Zane_123]

Classic patreon developer story. I don't remember any completed games with similar route plans.

It's not a Patreon game anymore.
Also I love your attitude "I personally disagree with the game design, therefor the author clearly has to have no clue what he is doing. It can't possibly just be me who personally dislikes it, it has to have bigger flaws outside of my personal bias."
Cool. Still won't change that the game won't go in a direction that you personally favor.

Not that I like every design decision here either but I accept that I don't have to, I am merely a player and if I dislike the vision of the Dev, I go find another game whose vision is closer to my liking. But I do understand that this all is like, totally just my opinion, man.

 

[Fleabag]

it’s pretty obvious what this game is about without reading external comments from the author, especially with the revamped version. by the first happy event it’s clear that this is not gonna be a porn game as you’d expect from the preview images. if it took you 6 hours to realize that this isn’t for you then sorry but that’s on you. most people who hate this game realize it’s not for them or doesn’t align with their expectations far sooner than that.

is this the right platform for the game to be available on? that’s debatable. is the game misleading in some ways from the tags and preview images? yeah probably. but once you start the game, especially with the revamped version, the game does not hide at all from what it wants to be.

I got that you are a big fan of this game, but you should admit that one so-called "happy scene" (you have even your own slang to call stuff in this game, wow) shows nothing. As I already said, I have nothing against creepy elements, and the only thing you can get from this scene is hat there are probably more of them. It's impossible to figure out from this scene that I won't get any plot development in the next 20 hours while also having no porn or having it with disturbing shit. Nobody in their mind does that, it's like an unspoken rule. I get that as a fan you want to protect the developer and see less people like me here, but this game really have problems and I just said about them, that's all.

 

[Fleabag]

It's not a Patreon game anymore.
Also I love your attitude "I personally disagree with the game design, therefor the author clearly has to have no clue what he is doing. It can't possibly just be me who personally dislikes it, it has to have bigger flaws outside of my personal bias."
Cool. Still won't change that the game won't go in a direction that you personally favor.

Not that I like every design decision here either but I accept that I don't have to, I am merely a player and if I dislike the vision of the Dev, I go find another game whose vision is closer to my liking. But I do understand that this all is like, totally just my opinion, man.

I know it's not on Patreon, but SS works the same so why bother?

And my attitude is not "I DISAGRE with game design", I am sure that it is shit. And because the developer won't change anything - why should I shut myself up? I know that my opinion is just my opinion, so what, I also should act like the author of this crap is a great artist and lick his ass like almost everyone does here?

 

[jamyong]

I got that you are a big fan of this game, but you should admit that one so-called "happy scene" (you have even your own slang to call stuff in this game, wow) shows nothing. As I already said, I have nothing against creepy elements, and the only thing you can get from this scene is hat there are probably more of them. It's impossible to figure out from this scene that I won't get any plot development in the next 20 hours while also having no porn or having it with disturbing shit. Nobody in their mind does that, it's like an unspoken rule. I get that as a fan you want to protect the developer and see less people like me here, but this game really have problems and I just said about them, that's all.

they're literally called happy events by the game. it's not slang. and there is definitely a shit ton of plot development almost constantly. the game never really stagnates. and with the revamp, literally within the first 20 minutes or so you get that dream pseudo rape scene with Ami and that should be a super clear indicator that the porn is going to have very disturbing elements attached to it. if not egregiously disturbing, you will at least be made to feel uncomfortable. if you're going off the original version and the lead up to the first happy event led you to believe that the game would be something else, then yeah i get it. i can forsure see how that's disappointing. but you most likely played the revamp and everything is pretty on the nose in that version.

and you got it wrong. im not tryna protect the dev at all. he's an ass and i hate his approach towards puzzles, player feedback that isn't unmitigated praise, and players sharing the answers for progression. i also really don't like the revamp and think he wasted a lot of time remaking chapter 1 because i think it got rid of too much of the build up of suspense and just dove right into the denpa elements too soon. but that's the thing: that what i think. but im not going to say he's misunderstanding his own creation or that he doesn't know what he's doing because that's just nonsense. the guy knows what he wants to create and is doing so competently and in a timely manner

if you think the game is designed badly to the point that you're not enjoying it then just don't play it lol. you're so confident that the game is shit and yet you're still here for what? no one is telling you to lick his ass, as you put it, and no one is telling you to shut up either. but why waste so much time discussing something that you clearly don't enjoy... i responded to your initial comment to let you know that the points of your frustration with the game are not likely to be alleviated as you progress so you'd be better off giving the game up now, and you're all "hurrr durr the author doesn't know what he's doing, and the game is bad fuck this guy" it's enough to say you don't like it and why and then just move on but you're acting like you're the porn game praetorian or some shit and some authority on how they're supposed to be developed

 

[Jimbolance]

I do not recommend anyone attempt to argue with Fleabag any further, it's clear they are just here because they want to start a fight.
No one has told them they have to like the game or anything, in fact you've all presented them with plenty of valid reasons to dislike it, simply arguing against some of the more ridiculous statements (i.e. the dev doesn't know what game he's making), Notice how they backed off this point shifted to a new argument? It's because they just want to argue, or else take their anger at the game out on it's fans or something.

 

[Fleabag]

they're literally called happy events by the game. it's not slang. and there is definitely a shit ton of plot development almost constantly. the game never really stagnates. and with the revamp, literally within the first 20 minutes or so you get that dream pseudo rape scene with Ami and that should be a super clear indicator that the porn is going to have very disturbing elements attached to it. if not egregiously disturbing, you will at least be made to feel uncomfortable. if you're going off the original version and the lead up to the first happy event led you to believe that the game would be something else, then yeah i get it. i can forsure see how that's disappointing. but you most likely played the revamp and everything is pretty on the nose in that version.

and you got it wrong. im not tryna protect the dev at all. he's an ass and i hate his approach towards puzzles, player feedback that isn't unmitigated praise, and players sharing the answers for progression. i also really don't like the revamp and think he wasted a lot of time remaking chapter 1 because i think it got rid of too much of the build up of suspense and just dove right into the denpa elements too soon. but that's the thing: that what i think. but im not going to say he's misunderstanding his own creation or that he doesn't know what he's doing because that's just nonsense. the guy knows what he wants to create and is doing so competently and in a timely manner

if you think the game is designed badly to the point that you're not enjoying it then just don't play it lol. you're so confident that the game is shit and yet you're still here for what? no one is telling you to lick his ass, as you put it, and no one is telling you to shut up either. but why waste so much time discussing something that you clearly don't enjoy... i responded to your initial comment to let you know that the points of your frustration with the game are not likely to be alleviated as you progress so you'd be better off giving the game up now, and you're all "hurrr durr the author doesn't know what he's doing, and the game is bad fuck this guy" it's enough to say you don't like it and why and then just move on but you're acting like you're the porn game praetorian or some shit and some authority on how they're supposed to be developed

And you keep clinging to my words about dev misunderstanding his child, while I said it once and moved on after your second answer to me. And you keep thinking that if you have some knowledge about this vn then it's obvious to other people after 15 minutes of playing. And you keep answering me with giant messages, while not understanding why I am still here. Well, at least I am more tired because of you now then mad because of the game, nice job.

 

[hcguy]

Fleabag is exactly why the ignore button was invented.

 

[SymbolicSalad]

OR the author misunderstands what he tries to create. I actually like characters in this game and have no problems with a slower building of narrative. I just don't get why the game push me into developing relationship with all girls, instead of giving me opportunity to focus on one or few. From 6 hours I spent reading this, I got very crappy game design when you repeatedly do the same things to get the same scenes, just with different characters (first hang out in rooms, for example). It would be ok for vn style porn game, but I get that author thinks that he is some japanese visual novel creator. Well, he is not, so all that justifying of this pretentiousness has no sense, "Lessons in Love" is just a bad porn game.

Can you change your profile picture? I don't like it and it's really bad.

 

[Fleabag]

Can you change your profile picture? I don't like it and it's really bad.

Please, quote the part of my message where I demand to change something.

 

[Bingoogus]

Please, quote the part of my message where I demand to change something.

 

[Fleabag]

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I agree with you, this whole situation is dumb, but I guess my English is too bad and your wish to understand people with different opinion is too low.

 

[ademar32341]

I’m not sure where you’re getting the username from, but presume it’s from the wiki guide as you linked to that.
But, simply put: those characters aren’t the text you need to enter as the username. It’s instead a clue / representation of the deity whose name you need to enter.
Praise be. =)

Praise be. =) not work for me 0.26.0v part2
stacked there...

 

[moodle]

I would guess that each purity route that gets added will be a full update's worth of content, and there will probably be purity routes for all 20 main girls and some of the side girls (Niki, Sara and Karin would make sense for purity routes. Yuki, Maki, and the children less so)

Every main and side character will get a purity route, per Sel, which will be both romantic and sexual in nature.

"But wait," you might say. "The wizards, too? That would be super fucked up!"

...yeah. Yeah, it will. That's the game we're playing. Did the part where the being possessing Yasu commanded Sensei to start raping virgins not tip you off?

 

[k1n5l4y3r]

Praise be. =) not work for me 0.26.0v part2
stacked there...

Its "Hope", without the quotation marks, Hope is the name of the beign also known as =)

 

[PrimeGuy]

Every main and side character will get a purity route, per Sel, which will be both romantic and sexual in nature.

"But wait," you might say. "The wizards, too? That would be super fucked up!"

...yeah. Yeah, it will. That's the game we're playing. Did the part where the being possessing Yasu commanded Sensei to start raping virgins not tip you off?

I think there's a possibility that purity routes will only be for main characters.

 

[moodle]

I think there's a possibility that purity routes will only be for main characters.

okay, but Selebus said otherwise, so yeah, there's a possibility, but it's not the plan. He constantly talks about 35 purity routes, not 20, and has said that Sara, Kaori, and Niki are three of the purity routes he is most excited to write, along with Maya and Io.