Ren'Py Lessons in Love [v0.54.0] [Selebus]

[BlackDays]

My prediction is Makoto. She might be rockie RAS member, she is on the way of rebuilding her personality and there is already nice setup given recent Maki events

That's ofcourse also a possibility.

 

[butterfly boy]

I feel bad for Ayane... None of her best friends are reliable anymore, she's probably the loneliest person in class right now and dangerously close to being converted...


Also, this is the second time Rin has casually dropped time paradox stuff mid conversation in chapter 3. I feel like she's been trying to give hints to people. And with Nodoka's pen name having Rin's last name and Rin's bio mom being talked about recently, I really hope that Rin becomes the face of chapter 4. Rin being aware of reset stuff would be a really cool twist and challenges a lot of what we already know about this world.

... that or maybe Rin just isn't capable of thinking for more than 3 seconds, which would be very disappointing. Or maybe she's just pretending to be dumb.

 

[JelF547]

So I've done my Amy event homework. It would be large, so I made TOC

1. Walkthrough and decoding attempt
2. Desconstructing Metaphor
3. Bonus: Sel is rewriting chapter 3 plot theory

Walkthrough

Initialy i though there might be hidden message in walkthorugh. It is common math excercise to visit all locations without repeating yourself, so if there is only solution it might be interesting.

However, I bruteforced it and found 50 different soultions. I tested two of them to be sure

Spoiler: Walkthrough in txt to save within your lil notes

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Spoiler: All walkthoughs in case you need it

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Desconstructing Metaphor

Disclaimer: I personaly don't think it is right, just throwing out my thoughts

First of all, hooray for live buildings. Strong Гигахрущ vibes

Amy implies it is Akira's origin. Other residents are numbers. Some of they are jumping (or at least thrown) into an infinte well. There is a place called Wishing Well and, AFAIR, Kumon-mi might be part of Wishing Well. Yasu also said something about reality bending in Kumon-mi, so Kumon-mi might be called "A place, where wishes literaly come true".

It also fits Maya's idea that after each reset there is new Sensei (I don't like it, but nevertheless). Also, assuming Amy never jumped, imposter Ami theory (which I don't like too) also might be true.

Given all that, Mall might be very important to understand Kumon-mi origins, even if it is not real. Because it is metaphor of something real. Amount of work involved to create it is also an inderect evidence of it's importance

Bonus

During last two patches, Selebus released some stuff which looks a bit out of place. Specificaly Psyco Ami-related events, which ended with nothing. This is first outside-of-reset puzzle, which could actualy be used during reset, especialy considering that next reset should move us to a new phase and question-style resets already exhausted themselves.

Also there is a bunch of completly forgoten side events like "Second Sun" or "Hook".

I think, Sel is rewriting chapter plot right now and we are going through old reset stuff. It's interesting, because new plot should be different frow what we seen before

 

[fdsasdf_p]

Before trying to put more thinking into the update, here is my most genuine thought I have for Haruka's Scum

Spoiler: Genuine thot

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[Axismundi]

So I'm starting to wonder what happened to Io. My money's always been on the sexual abuse theory, but the thing that makes me question it is the fact that Yasu just got confirmed to be a victim of abuse. I think it would be strange to have two mostly unrelated characters go through similar traumas. Of course, it's entirely possible since sexual abuse seems to be a key part of the story. What is everybody's opinion on this?

 

[ElukiaTV]

... that or maybe Rin just isn't capable of thinking for more than 3 seconds, which would be very disappointing. Or maybe she's just pretending to be dumb.
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Has a Rin fan, i would want nothing more, but also, dont be mean to the girl... They are usually not really aware of it, like Yumi didnt really tough about it, until Sensei pointed out if she knew what she did during the 2 months skip, that's when it clicked on Yumi. And same goes for Makoto, if Miku didnt got into a loop, she would have tough it was all a joke.
Rin might or might not be "free" for now, but she is just having a normal conversation and nobody pointed it out because they all ignore those kind of time comments.

But yeah... man, i would LOVE for Rin and her Homie to be Rooftop Homies.

 

[derekthered56]

So I'm starting to wonder what happened to Io. My money's always been on the sexual abuse theory, but the thing that makes me question it is the fact that Yasu just got confirmed to be a victim of abuse. I think it would be strange to have two mostly unrelated characters go through similar traumas. Of course, it's entirely possible since sexual abuse seems to be a key part of the story. What is everybody's opinion on this?

The sexual abuse of children is just a running theme of this game. We already have Akira, Maya, Sara, Uta; it wouldn't be weird to add more, and clearly Io would add a unique perspective on it.

Also, it's expected at this point but Io is such a dick for turning a genuine moment of vulnerability into tragedy olympics.

 

[hcguy]

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I think it's this one:

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[Deleted member 6006009]

Don't know why but I feel like the end of this game is gonna be a mix between Danganronpa 2 and The end of Evangelion

 

[Deleted member 6006009]

So I'm starting to wonder what happened to Io. My money's always been on the sexual abuse theory, but the thing that makes me question it is the fact that Yasu just got confirmed to be a victim of abuse. I think it would be strange to have two mostly unrelated characters go through similar traumas. Of course, it's entirely possible since sexual abuse seems to be a key part of the story. What is everybody's opinion on this?

Based on how broken she seems to be I will not be surprised is if is something especially serious like her parents selling her body or something like that

 

[butterfly boy]

Has a Rin fan, i would want nothing more, but also, dont be mean to the girl... They are usually not really aware of it, like Yumi didnt really tough about it, until Sensei pointed out if she knew what she did during the 2 months skip, that's when it clicked on Yumi. And same goes for Makoto, if Miku didnt got into a loop, she would have tough it was all a joke.
Rin might or might not be "free" for now, but she is just having a normal conversation and nobody pointed it out because they all ignore those kind of time comments.

But yeah... man, i would LOVE for Rin and her Homie to be Rooftop Homies.

Yeah that comment of mine did come off as mean, sometimes my English sucks and I can't find the words to express something... But I feel like Yumi and Makoto's case are different, as far as we know Yumi was conscious for only 1 day when Sensei pointed out that fact to her, she most likely didn't have time to think about it; as for Makoto I feel like she truly realized that something was wrong when she was thinking about how many years has passed since she was a freshman... So in the end it comes down to if someone can notice that they have many years of memories within one year of school, or how their memories have been contradicting. And I find it hard to believe how Rin could just go "oh it's been 2 years" and not even get a comment like "Wow time really files huh" or something like that, unless there's some extreme correction from the universe.

Also I wanted to point out the Rin scene because counting that scene, Rin has casually mentioned time paradox information 3 times just in chapter 3, which I feel like is a lot more than other characters. So I wouldn't be surprised if Rin ends up being a more important character in the future.

 

[butterfly boy]

So I'm starting to wonder what happened to Io. My money's always been on the sexual abuse theory, but the thing that makes me question it is the fact that Yasu just got confirmed to be a victim of abuse. I think it would be strange to have two mostly unrelated characters go through similar traumas. Of course, it's entirely possible since sexual abuse seems to be a key part of the story. What is everybody's opinion on this?

I think it could be something around or even worse than Sekai level, and instead of being manipulated into thinking it's ok like Akira, Io just felt scared and disgusted the entire time. It was clearly fucked up enough to wrap Io's perception of women.

 

[JelF547]

So I'm starting to wonder what happened to Io. My money's always been on the sexual abuse theory, but the thing that makes me question it is the fact that Yasu just got confirmed to be a victim of abuse. I think it would be strange to have two mostly unrelated characters go through similar traumas. Of course, it's entirely possible since sexual abuse seems to be a key part of the story. What is everybody's opinion on this?

Sexual abuse theory is good. It should be large common ground between Io and Uta. I wouldn't be suprprised if chat they became acquainted was anonymouse support group for sexual abuse victims. Miku being exception for Io's hate and Uta being exception is too different cases. Miku was accepted by grown Io who understands the world around her, not by recently traumatized child.

 

[Angiboat]

Sensei's pretty expressive in this update, he actually gets angry a few times, guess Spring is coming very soon.

 

[barglenarglezous]

Sexual abuse theory is good. It should be large common ground between Io and Uta. I wouldn't be suprprised if chat they became acquainted was anonymouse support group for sexual abuse victims. Miku being exception for Io's hate and Uta being exception is too different cases. Miku was accepted by grown Io who understands the world around her, not by recently traumatized child.

Uta and Io meeting in an online support chat for abuse survivors has been a theory of mine for a while now, and it was reinforced by how they spoke to each other in their heart to heart talk (the one where Io first suggested the throuple arrangement).

Io accepts Miku because she saw how clearly Miku was hurting and struggling to manage her unresolved trauma. Considering everyone in the class has one form of trauma or another, I think we'll start to see her accept more of the class as she realizes that they're ALL hurting in one way or another.

 

[k1n5l4y3r]

Did nobody notice Ami casually saying that Maya sneaks around to hug Sensei is a direct reference to knowing about RAS. It kinda feels like the person dressed as Sekai was actually Ami not Kaori.

 

[fdsasdf_p]

Did nobody notice Ami casually saying that Maya sneaks around to hug Sensei is a direct reference to knowing about RAS. It kinda feels like the person dressed as Sekai was actually Ami not Kaori.

With Yasu "knowing" more and more things she shouldn't know about Akira, I am starting to think Ami might just have similar indescribable abilities and/or divine connections to "let her know stuff".

Either that or it's like you said:

 

[fdsasdf_p]

I think it's this one:

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This also kinda explains the "pulling the number 17 out of my gum" thing; cool find!

 

[JelF547]

Sensei's pretty expressive in this update, he actually gets angry a few times, guess Spring is coming very soon.

Wow, idea that chapter 4 might be spring (or more likely autumn)-themed never hit me before. It would be nice to see it if Sel decides so

Did nobody notice Ami casually saying that Maya sneaks around to hug Sensei is a direct reference to knowing about RAS. It kinda feels like the person dressed as Sekai was actually Ami not Kaori.

I think you are overthinking yourself. Ami is already suspicious about relationships between Maya and Sensei and it looks like she almost sure it was Maya hiding somewhere in Sensei's room in "Somewhere"

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Does somebody knows exact wersion of Amy event song? I am bored by turning on the game just to hear that again

Nevermind, just opened secondmall.mp3 in my media player

 

[fdsasdf_p]

I honestly can't tell if Maki is woefully inept at putting the pieces together over who's fuckin' her daughter, in denial, or was giving Akira an opportunity to be honest. But it seems likely it was the first.

It has to be the first, remarkably overlooking the high possibility of the attractive and sexually audacious man next to her being the culprit.

Plus, she thought she put two and two together, while in reality she didn't even got the reason Makoto becoming happier correct: not starting to have sex but letting herself loose after knowing the reset (but it's impossible for her to figure that out, so still a logical conclusion on her end)