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I'm curious if anyone else has any voices that they read the character dialogue with in their heads.

I usually read Yasu with Illya's voice from Fate/Stay Night (Stephanie Sheh)
Sana with Rem's voice from Re:Zero (Brianna Knickerbocker)
Futaba with Emilia's voice from Re:Zero (Kayli Mills)
Yumi with Ryuko's voice from Kill la Kill (Erica Mendez)
Ami with Kayano's voice from Assassination Classroom (Monical Rial)
Uta with Faris's voice from Steins;Gate (Jad Saxton)
i read it aloud with a cute girl voice that I can muster with all the characters even Sensei. I find it pretty enjoyable. its similar to type of voice you hear when you hear someone speaking to a cat/dog all lovey dovey
 

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BROOOO this is straight up just not allowed, this legit made me laugh out of cringe for 5 minutes straight, this isn't even an exaggeration, I legit stood up and then laid on the floor.
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how is he even allowed to do that, someone arrest the man
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Whatever the usage is, I just hope that 4349 won't end up being just an answer to another bullshit reset puzzle; I'd be super unimpressed haha, even more so than just being plain meaningless.

But I've been thinking about that Kaori scene due to a different reason, it's how she glitched out.
From the description of There Is Nothing, the "digitized glitchiness" might be the signature influence from the 2nd god, and IIRC the only other person that ever glitched like that before this Kaori scene was exclusively Ami; the rest glitched examples are all acid dreams with mashed up jpeg (not to mention in other scenes it might be Sensei who was glitching out, whlie in this case Kaori and Ami were clearly the ones under divine intervention)
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If this can indicate that the Sekai-possessed Kaori is under 2nd god's influence due to the unique visual alterations, then it will strengthen the idea of 2nd god is Sekai. It will also explain why Ami is considered by the 2nd god the right person to control; or at least it makes more sense compared to another strong candidate Mr. Tojo (why and how would he consider Ami as the right person anyway lol)

Yet again there is no guarantee that these shock value things are meant to interpret this way, and there are other things said about the 2nd god in There Is Nothing remained seemingly unrelated to Sekai, god of science itself, being calm and does not mind or act on things, the pronoun /he/, etc. So yea, just throwing thoughts in the air.
I think the visual alterations are from our pov, not the character's. We're being influenced by the wire god and our visuals are being altered. We are the right person. Why the alterations happen around those characters though is the question.

It seems to be something that happens when The Wire god's connection is weak:
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So, it doesn't seem to be intentional, and it might actually be caused by something else weakening the 2nd god's connection to Sensei or Us which alters our visuals.

This also implies that the normal versions of the characters might only look the way they do, due to altered visuals. Similar to how Yasu recently mentioned Kirin only exists when she's needed:
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It's doubtful that what we see is what's actually there.

Edit: Also keep in mind, it's said that the Horny Ball of Light can't alter visuals, but that doesn't mean only the Wire god can. The Shapeshifter, Sekai, The World, Pareidolia, etc all might be able to.
 
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You forgot the concept of perception. The only thing you need to have a big penis is self-confidence.

It can work in Kumon-mi too
 

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I don't follow this thread religiously, so maybe this theory has been discussed and debunked... or maybe I'm just overly morbid about it, lol... But has anyone considered that in the beginning when we're encouraged to 'jump', it's Akira jumping to his own death and everything after that is just his final moments working through his trauma before the end?
 

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But has anyone considered that in the beginning when we're encouraged to 'jump', it's Akira jumping to his own death and everything after that is just his final moments working through his trauma before the end?
Someone has. There were some nice arguments like sound of medical stuff in some scenes (cannot remember which scenes, AFAIR all it was room with clocks related).

I personaly don't like that theory, because it garbages entire plot and could not be disproven
 
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I don't follow this thread religiously, so maybe this theory has been discussed and debunked... or maybe I'm just overly morbid about it, lol... But has anyone considered that in the beginning when we're encouraged to 'jump', it's Akira jumping to his own death and everything after that is just his final moments working through his trauma before the end?
I remember that Selebus said this isn't a dream, coma, simulation or anything like that, it's gonna be hard to search for his posts so quote this under "Bro, trust me", but afaik it's already been dismissed. My theory was that the one to jump in the begining is the player, not Akira.
The support for that is that there are narrations and scenes outside of Akira's pov that only we as players are capable of seeing, also the fact that Akira can make his own decisions we only "help", like on the first dorm war that he picks Chika as the winner of the date night.
 

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I don't follow this thread religiously, so maybe this theory has been discussed and debunked... or maybe I'm just overly morbid about it, lol... But has anyone considered that in the beginning when we're encouraged to 'jump', it's Akira jumping to his own death and everything after that is just his final moments working through his trauma before the end?
There are at least three instances where Sel has confirmed that:

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I don't know if he's changed his mind or contradicted himself or is simply lying here, but I'm convinced of this being the case, as for whether it's a simulation or a dream, I'm not sure, but it's probably more complicated than that.
 

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There are at least three instances where Sel has confirmed that:

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I don't know if he's changed his mind or contradicted himself or is simply lying here, but I'm convinced of this being the case, as for whether it's a simulation or a dream, I'm not sure, but it's probably more complicated than that.
The game has felt like a Purgatory at several points throughout its runtime, and that technically would be neither dream nor simulation. That's why the suicidal characters like Makoto and Rin repeatedly find themselves in situations where they're driven to that point - they can't move on until they are able to resolve their problems without taking the easy way out, Miku and Ami likely died in their respective accidents and cannot move on until they've worked through their trauma, etc.
 

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The game has felt like a Purgatory at several points throughout its runtime, and that technically would be neither dream nor simulation. That's why the suicidal characters like Makoto and Rin repeatedly find themselves in situations where they're driven to that point - they can't move on until they are able to resolve their problems without taking the easy way out, Miku and Ami likely died in their respective accidents and cannot move on until they've worked through their trauma, etc.
This has been one of my more favoured theories since i started playing this game. It fits well and doesn't feel like a cop out, it also gives reason for so many of the components of the story, the whole who, where, what, why etc.
 

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The game has felt like a Purgatory at several points throughout its runtime, and that technically would be neither dream nor simulation. That's why the suicidal characters like Makoto and Rin repeatedly find themselves in situations where they're driven to that point - they can't move on until they are able to resolve their problems without taking the easy way out, Miku and Ami likely died in their respective accidents and cannot move on until they've worked through their trauma, etc.
Isn't there a risk though of if this is handled and implemented badly it will go down like a lead balloon in the same way as the ending of LOST did?
 
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Isn't there a risk though of if this is handled and implemented badly it will go down like a lead balloon in the same way as the ending of LOST did?
LOST was somehow a purgatory with absolutely no hints that it was one until it's spoon-fed to the characters in the finale. Better foreshadowing would have prevented that, but I suspect that it was a hastily thrown together explanation for the what-the-fuckery of the show once they decided to wrap it up, and they didn't actually have that in mind early on.
 

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There are at least three instances where Sel has confirmed that:

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I don't know if he's changed his mind or contradicted himself or is simply lying here, but I'm convinced of this being the case, as for whether it's a simulation or a dream, I'm not sure, but it's probably more complicated than that.
If it were true, it would explain a lot of the really dumb excuses for the state of the city, him not remembering his name, etc... They are obviously not meant to be plausible. There could be other explanations of course, but I've always felt the "He's dead" or "He's dying" explanation made the most sense. Seems like a minority theory though, haha.

And Sel's changed his mind about a few things about the game, so it's possible he did a retcon there too. Who knows for now.
 

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The game has felt like a Purgatory at several points throughout its runtime, and that technically would be neither dream nor simulation. That's why the suicidal characters like Makoto and Rin repeatedly find themselves in situations where they're driven to that point - they can't move on until they are able to resolve their problems without taking the easy way out, Miku and Ami likely died in their respective accidents and cannot move on until they've worked through their trauma, etc.
That is a cool idea, but I wonder if it will go to the extent of every character being dead or dying and having to come to terms with that. Though imo the one character that cannot be dead or die in the end is Maya, my hypothesis is that the True Ending will be about her continuing to live in the real world and shutting down the wishing well (or at least the Kumon Mi program running in it).
 

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LOST was somehow a purgatory with absolutely no hints that it was one until it's spoon-fed to the characters in the finale. Better foreshadowing would have prevented that, but I suspect that it was a hastily thrown together explanation for the what-the-fuckery of the show once they decided to wrap it up, and they didn't actually have that in mind early on.
But the purgatory thing was just an addon after the story was done. It's not supposed to be the explanation for the whole story.
I guess that part was just to stretch the series for another season to earn more money.
 
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