I could definitely see Sel being on the Ace spectrum, but to be fair, it's not like the majority of girls in LiL are intended to be
hot.
Chika? Sure:
Any girl gives me that look and I'm sold, I love the confident look telling me to get over there as if she commands it. That said, I am basically confirmed on the aforementioned spectrum, a demisexual, and wouldn't really actually feel anything sexual because I just don't feel that for drawings. That look in her eye is so good, though. This is easily one of Sel's best renders for the game itself.
However, the majority are girls that, well, let's just say know Sensei has a preference:
And tend to be traumatized or fucked up on top of that.
Not to mention, it's not like the girls even need to try to seduce Sensei most of the time. He's easy for the most part, until recently (probably due to god shenanigans).
In 'Dissonance', the MC still has some dignity. For now anyway, lmao. Yoshie is best
ass girl. Chiyo is up there though..
Definitely god shenanigans involved somewhere, but is it god shenanigans keeping him from doing these things or is it god shenanigans making him go for it? He may be messed up in the head because of
Sekai, but perhaps it's not his own will alone that he does these things on.
I'm going to argue this, but I want to make it clear from the jump that it's fine that most of the sex scenes that were ostensibly designed to be erotic... aren't. That's really not the point of the game and it stands up just fine without them.
That said, this is a false dichotomy - there's no reason you can't do both. Which one does Pale Carnations give up? Neither!
In this game they're not just a side dish, they're like an afterthought. Leftovers. Most seem thrown in with the attitude of "let's get this bullshit over with to appease the coomers."
There's really nothing to say about how to improve them if, at the end of the day, the dev just hates doing it, isn't willing to farm out any work (even animations), and despises my random forum-poster ass anyway. But, improvements here have the potential of "tricking" a bit more of the normie-leaning crowd on the edge of playing something like this into playing it, and if it does take some minimal time away from the plot, I'm sure his supporters would understand dropping the failed ** project and/or raising the prices of custom renders again.
Either way, it's absolutely not the point of the game, they could just serve as a little extra juice. Some sprinkles on a fucked up birthday cake that turns out to be just bats inside, the only thing that actually tastes worse than the revolting fondant most of the cakes on Tiktok are made with, but a weirdly enjoyable experience anyway.
The most impactful sex scenes by far are the Molly Halloween scene, Sekai's, and the Makaba (Futoto?) threesome. Why? Because they're fucked up and plot-relevant. That's what this game does, and it seems headed more in this direction and away from failed attempts at eroticism anyway, which will suit it just fine.
The reason why I speculated about Selly maybe being ace is in the context of it being a good thing someone replicated the assets for public use, because actually erotic fan art for this game has the potential to be straight fire, which it is. We just need more of it!
And the only reason they weren't available was, in typical Selly form, a bit silly and self-absorbed. A fan game made with LiL assets would be ludicrous, called out immediately, and wouldn't hurt LiL in any way, unless he thought someone could write this story better than he could, which is just sad. If anything, it would just put more eyeballs on the real game you know, kinda like how piracy does... did.
Anyway, yeah, this game stands up just fine without it. This isn't an uncommon problem either, not even Christopher Fucking Nolan understands how the act of sex works, and sure, this lack of understanding might have been an unintentionally funny interlude and/or a jarring tonal shift for some people, but it didn't really detract from how good Oppenheimer is.
All I'm trying to say is... we need more fan art!
It's definitely for the better with the way Sel wants the focus to be. Had Sel wanted sex to be the focus, I would say the approach taken by some of the other games, such as the one previously mentioned (I mean, come on, that one screen from the other game is very obviously focusing on the sexual nature, not the story), would be the better way to handle it.
I didn't say you can't do both, I said both cannot be a main focus. It's like trying to please every person who plays, you try to please everyone and everyone ends up displeased. This is because a larger focus has been split down the middle, weakening the focus on both sides of the player base. The same happens if you try to put a focus on both the story and the sex. If you focus on one, you get a stronger outcome in that aspect because the focus is stronger on that aspect. However, focus on both and you end up focusing less on both in an attempt to treat them equally. This results in a weaker outcome on both sides.
Afterthought, side dish, same thing really. If sex is not a main focus, it's going to come out weaker than if it was whether it is thought of last minute or thought of as secondary to the story the entire time. They are thrown in with the appeasement attitude because that's how Sel feels, or at least seemed to from the very beginning and still seems to, about these elements. That's why we get this focus on the story, the lack of animation for the purpose stated as avoiding distraction from the story, and even the ratio of sexual content to nonsexual content. Everything about this game that comes out as some sort of lack of sexual content stems from what he does or does not want, including quality when compared to games with sex as a main focus, no offense to Sel of course, the scenes aren't objectively bad outright, they could just be better with a sexual focus.
I don't think the **, assuming you're using this for care packages as usual, is negotiable at this point. Remember their purpose, to give subscribers back some of the benefits lost to piracy because people can't simply wait two weeks for the actual free, complete version of the game. As for raising the price, he probably will eventually, he's already having to deal with a pretty heft load of requests, 100+ a month by his previous statement on the matter, so logically this could very easily lead to further raising of the proces to curb the number of request capable subscribers or even the elimination of the $50 USD tier, one of only tow remaining tiers, entirely as he has done in the past. Also, I don't think appealing to the more "normie" crowd is a good idea considering the wizard content that will be added at some point, so said Sel himself on multiple occasions. That kind of content is especially dangerous to be showing the "normie" crowd with the exception of the people like on this site that would simply ignore it and find another game. People who show an acceptance, not even the will to produce or consume, of that content get canceled no questions asked and his Itchio already got hit once for that kind of content by activists that are against it depsite it being fictional. This risks attracting more of the same when there's already going to be a big risk later just having the content in the first place. He's just lucky it isn't illegal where he is.
...I am never going to look at cake the same again, thank you for that mental image (I'm joking, it's fine). It's definitely not the point, as many people have found out and some have complained about in the past, I don't remember names.
Definitely agree with the impact of those scenes, I seriously got triggered by the Molly scene, like outright hatred for Sensei if I think about him from an in universe perspective, given what he did. I felt the same with Nodoka and the scene with Yumi, boy was I fuming from that at her. This game really hits you hard when it comes to stuff like that.
I can agree with that view, while I can't share them unless I want to lose my perks, I can speak about them vaguely. The custom requests are some of his best work and he really does some nice sexual or simply NSFW in general ones like my latest request or the one I requested before that, which would probably be a rule 7 violation anyway even if I could share.
I'm assuming you mean the official cards not being available. The reason is actually because those of us who have/had them were explicitly told not to share them or use them directly to make a game that would become direct competition for LiL. In other words, don't use his own assets against him. Someone did exactly that, they used a card, I believe it was Ami's, to make a game years ago now and that caused him to cease giving the cards out. This is not self absorbed, this is someone breaking their word and the entire rest of us getting collectively punished for that betrayal. There are multple games that are based on LiL out now, which could also be classified as fan games in a way sort of like some of the fan games of FNAF, and none of the ones I'm thinking of directly use the assets that were given to subscribers.
Definitely not, just as Sel has made a pretty nice game with an engaging story, so too did Nolan with Oppenheimer make a great film, which accurately tells the story it was meant to, completely focusing on it to the annoyance of some people who were looking for some attention to be brought to the aftermath on the ground at Hiroshima and/or Nagasaki, something even Oppenheimer himself was horrified at despite really only witnessing it through sources like the news. It's purpose was to tell the story of the production and testing of the first bomb, not the ones that were actually dropped. So too is LiL meant to tell a story of some seriously messed up happenings in a fictional Japanese town outside of, if I remember discussion correctly, Kyoto. The story of what lies beneath our feet, what forces are at play, the story of a group of girls and a single male teacher who was
molested and raped by family, the story of a girl
who lost her parents and is essentially broken into needing that one male teacher and so much more.
Fan art would be nice, there's some seriously talented people among the subscribers and more outside of the subscriber base.
