Ren'Py Lessons in Love [v0.54.0] [Selebus]

[DeSkel15]

Yeah i get you. But something about it itches me, hence i said i might look into it again.

You know the times when you leave to buy groceries, you have your purse, and think you're good to go.
While you travel you get a strange feeling that something isn't right.
Maybe you left your oven on, or something similar that might burn down your house or apartment.
Finally you find out that you forgot your keys.

I got the same felling about Akiras gender.
It's mainly because of the upside down house.
But there's also how majorly woman seem to be the ones to suffer from predatory behavior, with Akira the sole exception.
It's also something i pretty sure read in the story that triggered that thought. I just can't grab it. Normally, someone will post something that will scrape by that location inside my memory to reignite that thought. That happens often.
Maybe i can give a better example than and there.

It sometimes feels like a female processing her abuse through the story of a male person, to be in control, to have the upper hand.

Hm:

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For all we know, the question would be, if Akira is a basecap wearing guy, which i doubt.
And if he's not, one of the, what was it, lamb legs/good boy images show that she might have gotten raped by some base cap wearing pos.

Also yeah, there's been a few implications that something happened to Maya:

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I'm thinking it's plausible that the AmIOkay Maya, is even the Original Maya, and the Sensei that showed up in the machine:

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Is the Original Sensei.

Btw, that last image, and the cap guy thing is from 'The Light of Last Summer' main event in Chapter 2. Which just so happens to be the name of Nodoka's book.

 

[BlackDays]

Hm:

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Also yeah, there's been a few implications that something happened to Maya:

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I'm thinking it's plausible that the AmIOkay Maya, is even the Original Maya, and the Sensei that showed up in the machine:

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Is the Original Sensei.

Btw, that last image, and the cap guy thing is from 'The Light of Last Summer' main event in Chapter 2. Which just so happens to be the name of Nodoka's book.

The question here would be, if he was the one that exploited Maya to begin with, or, if he just took what was already "broken".
I don't think that he'd be jealous of himself, his subconscious should prevent that, if he defiled her to begin with.
From narration, one might think that he took her in after she was abused. And personally, i rather have this as canon.
He took in the broken stray cat.

The reason why he sat on that decision to answer to her confession, might have been that he was well aware of himself and the age gap implications. His own history with Sekai and the grooming and what not.
Why he finally gave in, thats what i'd like to know.
Was Sekai's influence shining through? Was he seeing himself in her (both groomed)?
I hope the day will come we find out in more detail.

 

[DeSkel15]

The question here would be, if he was the one that exploited Maya to begin with, or, if he just took what was already "broken".
I don't think that he'd be jealous of himself, his subconscious should prevent that, if he defiled her to begin with.
From narration, one might think that he took her in after she was abused. And personally, i rather have this as canon.
He took in the broken stray cat.

The reason why he sat on that decision to answer to her confession, might have been that he was well aware of himself and the age gap implications. His own history with Sekai and the grooming and what not.
Why he finally gave in, thats what i'd like to know.
Was Sekai's influence shining through? Was he seeing himself in her (both groomed)?
I hope the day will come we find out in more detail.

I definitely think Sensei saw himself in her:

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Which is another reason I think she was taken advantage of before they met, at the least. Keep in mind though, that Sensei was in a broken state around that time:

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and to be frank, this likely leads into my Maya Noriko Deal Theory:

So, Random Theory Time: Noriko and Maya's deal, may have broke an already broken Sensei:

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As for why Maya still avoids the Old District after all this time:

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I think it's likely for the same reason she remains a shrine maiden:

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She doesn't want to risk breaking the deal in case it influences her survivability.

Also, personally, I can see Sensei "adopting" Maya back during the tutoring days. Just not officially.

 

[BlackDays]

I definitely think Sensei saw himself in her:

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Which is another reason I think she was taken advantage of before they met, at the least. Keep in mind though, that Sensei was in a broken state around that time:

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and to be frank, this likely leads into my Maya Noriko Deal Theory:

Also, personally, I can see Sensei "adopting" Maya back during the tutoring days. Just not officially.

Yeah, Noriko's text seems to imply why Akira gave in.

I'm not so sure about when they met.
I wouldn't be surprised if they met before the car crash. He just "took her in/tutored her" after he got better after the crash and Sekai's death.
Sekai being jealous of Maya, whould be harder to explain, if she just got to know her after she died.
Ofcourse, what ever Sekai is now, she seems to be aware of the other girls.
But with Sekai, it just seems to have a whole different tone, if she mentiones Maya, like she knew her before her death.

There is another thing that tickles me about Maya's and Noriko's pact.
I mentioned this before so i'll just repeat myself mostly.

For me, it felt like one of them interrupted the other in their conversation and something got lost.
I had a feeling like Noriko was to scold Maya for Sekai's death. As if Maya had been responsible for that.
Ofcourse we don't know and it's just a feeling of mine.
But i do think that, that conversation would have more info to it, if they didn't end it out of dispise for each other.

 

[mannice431]

So, 2 events have been crossed out in red (for Ayane), 'Dark Side of the Room' and 'A Failed attempt at Being Good'.

Anyone know how to trigger them?

 

[fdsasdf_p]

So, 2 events have been crossed out in red (for Ayane), 'Dark Side of the Room' and 'A Failed attempt at Being Good'.

Anyone know how to trigger them?

Choose Ayane in Our Time Atop of This Mattress when discussing threesome with Chika

 

[DeSkel15]

Yeah, Noriko's text seems to imply why Akira gave in.

I'm not so sure about when they met.
I wouldn't be surprised if they met before the car crash. He just "took her in/tutored her" after he got better after the crash and Sekai's death.
Sekai being jealous of Maya, whould be harder to explain, if she just got to know her after she died.
Ofcourse, what ever Sekai is now, she seems to be aware of the other girls.
But with Sekai, it just seems to have a whole different tone, if she mentiones Maya, like she knew her before her death.

There is another thing that tickles me about Maya's and Noriko's pact.
I mentioned this before so i'll just repeat myself mostly.

For me, it felt like one of them interrupted the other in their conversation and something got lost.
I had a feeling like Noriko was to scold Maya for Sekai's death. If Maya had been responsible for that.
Ofcourse we don't know and it's just a feeling of mine.
But i do think that, that conversation would have more info to it, if they didn't end it out of dispise for each other.

Maya apparently showed up after the accident, after he ghosted Niki, and shortly after he began tutoring Noriko again:

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At least that's what Noriko's 'Loxosceles Reclusa' seems to say.

I don't think Sekai met a 6 to 7 year old Maya, and I'm not sure it's even jealousy that is Sekai's problem. She just seems to hate Maya, and I'm thinking it's likely because Maya convinced Sensei to forget Sekai, along with the Nakayama's. Could be wrong though.

Also, I don't think Sensei really ever got better per se. Even now, he gets to the point where Ami has to take care of him:

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It seems more like he just has good days and bad days etc. Even around 8 to 9 years later.

 

[barglenarglezous]

I hope no one believes that without seeing receipts. I'd believe a couple one-time donos, but tithing? Ain't no way.

He strikes me as a "taxation is theft" guy, so it would not surprise me at all if his accountant is figuring out the exact amount he needs to make in charitable donations so that he doesn't pay any taxes.

 

[Angra Shadow]

I don't think Sekai met a 6 to 7 year old Maya, and I'm not sure it's even jealousy that is Sekai's problem. She just seems to hate Maya, and I'm thinking it's likely because Maya convinced Sensei to forget Sekai, along with the Nakayama's. Could be wrong though.

Unless my insane crack theory that Maya is actually Sekai's daughter with Nozomu while Ami is her daughter with Sensei is right, and that is why she hates Maya while adoring Ami.

 

[fdsasdf_p]

I don't think Sekai met a 6 to 7 year old Maya.

The only reasonable way that I can think of to have "Sekai had met Maya when she was still alive" = true is to assume Maya being that girl Ami had a play date with, a mysterious girl whose hair wasn't pink. Other scenarios are easily too far-fetched (even this one is quite a stretch as well)

I know Sensei immediately made that sarcastic remark but I don't think these girls' colors would change bc of anime reason lol

 

[k1n5l4y3r]

Unless my insane crack theory that Maya is actually Sekai's daughter with Nozomu while Ami is her daughter with Sensei is right, and that is why she hates Maya while adoring Ami.

Unless Sekai has some god power to get pregnant with two child, by two men, at the same time because they are both 15yr, and somehow keep one of them a secret, I very much doubt Maya is Sekai's child, but she can be Nozomu's child with another person and the guy molesting her may be her stepfather.

 

[DewiFake]

I wrote a small mod that lets you skip the affection/lust point grind without having to go through the tedium of typing in cheat codes or having your save labelled with the cheater flag. Features:

• Sets all girls' affection and lust points to a value X unless they were already higher than X
• Written to be future-proof (i.e. will automatically work for any new girls)
• Enables the developer console

Note: if you want a version of the mod that lets you set affection and lust points separately (useful if you don't want to see any lust events), see here: https://f95zone.to/threads/lessons-in-love-v0-30-0-selebus.48158/post-10770605

Usage:

• Download the attached file (note: if you get sent to a new tab with a bunch of text, just right click and hit "Save as" and name it as z_set_love_lust.rpy)
• Move into the game subfolder (found in the folder that you launch Lessons in Love from)
• Load a save and open the developer console with Shift + O
• Press Enter a few times so you can see the ">" symbol in the top left of the screen
• Type setLoveAndLust(X) and press Enter, where X is an integer (i.e. a whole number). For an example, see the image below
• Press Esc to close the console and now you can play!

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Note: I recommend using this with the guide mod for max efficiency, because other than grinding points, the main time-sink with this game is trying to trigger events.

Advice from alex2011 on how to use the mod so that you don't accidentally miss events (note: I used the mod myself with 50 affection from the start and didn't experience any issues. You can still miss events even if you follow the instructions below and you can still see all events while ignoring those instructions.):


Uninstall: delete the files z_set_love_lust.rpy and z_set_love_lust.rpyc from your game subfolder

I also made a mod that lets you scroll your mouse-wheel to simulate clicks, makes the game more convenient to play https://f95zone.to/threads/use-scroll-wheel-to-simulate-mouse-clicks.120507/#post-8406783

For the people who don't want to set all of them, but just want to add some points for a specific girl, I think you can also use skwada's mod to open the developer console and give a specific name. For example, if you wanted to add 5 lust points, just type:

$ futaba_lust +=5

It won't give a message of confirmation, but it seems to add the points. I'm not sure if this is entirely foolproof, maybe someone else can confirm this.

 

[Angra Shadow]

Unless Sekai has some god power to get pregnant with two child, by two men, at the same time because they are both 15yr, and somehow keep one of them a secret, I very much doubt Maya is Sekai's child, but she can be Nozomu's child with another person and the guy molesting her may be her stepfather.

I remember trying to wiggle my way out of this by going for the fact that their birthdays are exactly 8 months apart which means it's *technically* possible that she could have had Ami afterwards and that she was born prematurely.

 

[barglenarglezous]

Unless Sekai has some god power to get pregnant with two child, by two men, at the same time because they are both 15yr, and somehow keep one of them a secret, I very much doubt Maya is Sekai's child, but she can be Nozomu's child with another person and the guy molesting her may be her stepfather.

God power? It's a thing that can actually happen.

Sometimes, the ovaries release more than one egg at a time. If they are fertilized by seperate sex acts with different partners within a narrow (10-12 hours) window, you get twins who only share one parent.

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[DeSkel15]

The only reasonable way that I can think of to have "Sekai had met Maya when she was still alive" = true is to assume Maya being that girl Ami had a play date with, a mysterious girl whose hair wasn't pink. Other scenarios are easily too far-fetched (even this one is quite a stretch as well)
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I know Sensei immediately made that sarcastic remark but I don't think these girls' colors would change bc of anime reason lol

Technically Chika and Chinami dye their hair, and I'm thinking Yuki does, but Noriko in particular seems to be Naturally Pink:

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Which is odd all things considered. Albeit, it depends on how many of the girls have their natural hair color. If Io, Futaba, and Yasu are all natural then yeah, Anime Logic. Still, it makes me think that the girl wasn't Noriko, unless Ami just blanked out on the hair color.

Btw, just a gut feeling, but that girl Ami had a play date with, could have also been Nodoka. Nothing really supports it yet though.

 

[k1n5l4y3r]

God power? It's a thing that can actually happen.

Sometimes, the ovaries release more than one egg at a time. If they are fertilized by seperate sex acts with different partners within a narrow (10-12 hours) window, you get twins who only share one parent.

You must be registered to see the links

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The god power is keeping one of the children a secret, the double pregnancy thing I knew.

 

[DarkDaemonX]

If the threesome choice will ever have content tied to the others besides Ayane, all I have to do is turn on all the flags from it, but unless Sel changed his mind on a 100% playthrough, that won't happen, which makes it weird why he went out of his way to assign flags to the other choices.

 

[fdsasdf_p]

If the threesome choice will ever have content tied to the others besides Ayane, all I have to do is turn on all the flags from it, but unless Sel changed his mind on a 100% playthrough, that won't happen, which makes it weird why he went out of his way to assign flags to the other choices.

- There actually will be different threesome scenes available only to certain choices (least possible)

- For future minor dialogue variations only, like Sensei's monologues when conversing with the girls of choice, or Chika slightly dissing you whenever appliable if you chose Chinami (most possible)

- For Sel to pull shenanigans on whoever edited their saves by checking if more than one flag is true, or if others girls' flags are true while not missing the threesome event (purely conspiracy theory)

 

[DeSkel15]

So, Random Theory Time: Niki is intended to be Sensei's "True Love".

Now, as far as has been revealed, pre resets, Sensei has only ever been with 3 people:

• Sekai, who seemed to be notably jealous of Niki, and probably still is:
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• Maya, who has been and still is jealous of Niki without ever actually meeting her:
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• And Niki, who is unaware of Sekai having a relationship with Sensei, before her, and Maya having one, after her, to the point she wondered if Sensei was currently a virgin recently:
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Well, after recent events have been revealed about Sensei's character, it seems appropriate to say, that the more Sensei cares about a person, the less he actually tries to fuck them. This is especially notable with Imani vs Rika:

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Albeit, this could even apply to the likes of Ami, Noriko, Rin, and Sana through out the game.

Keeping that in mind, It's been established that Sensei never pushed Niki to have sex. It's likely the main reason Niki was almost a 30 year old virgin, until she recently convinced Sensei to fuck her:

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Unlike Imani or the rest of the girls, Sensei actually dated Niki, so, him of all people, not really trying to fuck her was most likely just his way of caring about her. There wasn't even really a friendship in the way like with Imani, since they dated for 5 years:

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Now, compare it to his relationship with Sekai and Maya, which seemed to revolve around sex:

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and there's definitely something special about Niki. Even the possibility that Sekai forbade Sensei to fuck her, seems unlikely considering Sekai's character:

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And, all these years later, the one memory Sensei seems to have regained is the night he and Niki first kissed:

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On top of this, Niki is the one who helped Sensei remember his first name:

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Which even Sensei considers "a big deal".

I think Sensei even saying he's in love with Niki means a whole lot more than him saying he loves anyone else. Probably even Maya. Especially considering how open he has already been about his love for Niki:

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Overall: based off who Sensei is as a person, and the context surrounding his and Niki's relationship, it seems like she might be intended to be his actual "True Love".

At least, as far as someone like him could love. It also helps that their love seems to be the most healthy one.. and that's saying something.

 

[alex2011]

It could definitely be something "less" than rape. I've been somewhat waiting for any confirmation that Sensei was Maya's first, but I don't think it's come up.

Indeed, it barely comes up whether they were even active at all. We definitely need more info in both regards as I doubt we'll get much of a confirmation any time soon.

If the threesome choice will ever have content tied to the others besides Ayane, all I have to do is turn on all the flags from it, but unless Sel changed his mind on a 100% playthrough, that won't happen, which makes it weird why he went out of his way to assign flags to the other choices.

- There actually will be different threesome scenes available only to certain choices (least possible)

- For future minor dialogue variations only, like Sensei's monologues when conversing with the girls of choice, or Chika slightly dissing you whenever appliable if you chose Chinami (most possible)

- For Sel to pull shenanigans on whoever edited their saves by checking if more than one flag is true, or if others girls' flags are true while not missing the threesome event (purely conspiracy theory)

Current theory for me suggests he might have done that as some sort of trick question kind of thing. There is only one right answer, but the others are made to seem like they might get something only for them not to. My reason is this is not the first time that's happened, though it usually comes in the form of the right answer being the polar opposite of what I would do, yet matches what Sensei would.