Ren'Py Lessons in Love [v0.54.0] [Selebus]

[barglenarglezous]

Interesting is, that some girls now seem to have those... neck bands?, or what would they be called?

Choker. The ones that are tight against the neck like Rin and Kirin are wearing are called chokers.

And Chika's is a collar, complete with a tag.

 

[ElukiaTV]

Shouldn't Chinami also be on the list of girls with new designs/outfits next to her sister if the next update really is going to be starting in Ayaneverse?

Chinami should also be rid of a reason to keep her bleach blonde hair just like Chika if the cause of it is going to be rewritten from the root. Unless any effect of Ayaneverse is only on a psychic level (i.e., trauma is not gone, but overcome), and only does its work on Chika and not Chinami somehow due to Ayane's understanding to everyone's situation, but this imo is a little creepy and is very close to lazy writing.

Considering Chika getting a new job and how Sel responded to the question "why Rin dyed her hair", the changes we've sneak peeked might just be a normal progression within the stories when at the same time welcoming the arrival of a season that Kumon-mi never has (here goes your normal I guess).
What I will not understand is why dyeing her hair black is a requirement from the maid cafe if such thing turns out to be true. C'mom! Classic gyaru maids! How very hot and fetishizable!

Besides, if Ayane does obtain power to make changes, the first thing she might do is make herself forget all of this and reset herself to an old oblivious version after seeing Ami's horrible death, instead of suddenly becoming a new messiah not just for Sensei, but for almost everyone (because apparently not everyone gets their fix in this Ayaneverse).

Does Ayane even know of Chinami?

 

[barglenarglezous]

He could be using his prior game attempts as a lore backup, while, like with Dune, they won't have a real impact on Lil, besides stage setting.

The content that exists for those games are prototypes for future games. He's already said on the Discord that after LiL is over he's hiring an art team and doing Nothing is Beautiful from scratch.

 

[DeSkel15]

Shouldn't Chinami also be on the list of girls with new designs/outfits next to her sister if the next update really is going to be starting in Ayaneverse?

Chinami should also be rid of a reason to keep her bleach blonde hair just like Chika if the cause of it is going to be rewritten from the root. Unless any effect of Ayaneverse is only on a psychic level (i.e., trauma is not gone, but overcome), and only does its work on Chika and not Chinami somehow due to Ayane's understanding to everyone's situation, but this imo is a little creepy and is very close to lazy writing.

Considering Chika getting a new job and how Sel responded to the question "why Rin dyed her hair", the changes we've sneak peeked might just be a normal progression within the stories when at the same time welcoming the arrival of a season that Kumon-mi never has (here goes your normal I guess).
What I will not understand is why dyeing her hair black is a requirement from the maid cafe if such thing turns out to be true. C'mom! Classic gyaru maids! How very hot and fetishizable!

Besides, if Ayane does obtain power to make changes, the first thing she might do is make herself forget all of this and reset herself to an old oblivious version after seeing Ami's horrible death, instead of suddenly becoming a new messiah not just for Sensei, but for almost everyone (because apparently not everyone gets their fix in this Ayaneverse).

It's possible a few characters are just ignored by Ayane. Like Yumi or Chinami, Kaori, etc.

Chika may have only been changed because she's fucking Sensei and even Ayane found her delusional:

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That does beg the question why Makoto and Miku don't seem changed though. Albeit, it's possible even the Moderator of the universe has limits. Especially when it comes to those who died or were dying before resets. I'd think Ami would have brought back her mother at least if that was an option, instead of simply visiting her grave for eternity.

Then again, just because the universe might be Ayane's, it doesn't mean she's actually in charge. The Shapeshifter or Pareidolia could be the ones actually in control.

Or something entirely different is going on and any better world implication is merely a red herring.

 

[crustlord12]

It's possible a few characters are just ignored by Ayane. Like Yumi or Chinami, Kaori, etc.

Or something entirely different is going on

Yes, like the fact that this "Ayaneverse" is just an unsubstantiated fan-theory right now I love the fan theories but it always gets a bit funny when the community really spirals into them like it's the true confirmed story, when it's really just an interpretation of a few scenes.

Not calling anyone out at all, and I actually really like the concept of the Ayaneverse, just more of an observation that there could be plenty of other reasons for it and to not dig too deeply into the Mines of Mayaoria

 

[barglenarglezous]

Or something entirely different is going on and any better world implication is merely a red herring.

Yup. The Ayaneverse was a fun thought experiment back when we only had the t-posed models to work with, but now that we're seeing them in context, I think we can discard it. Especially with Sel stating that the changes are all because of character progression or just teenagers changing their look (Rin's already done this before, after all).

He also very specifically shit on the idea that Rin's inner sadness has gone away, so that definitely did not happen.

 

[DeSkel15]

Yes, like the fact that this "Ayaneverse" is just an unsubstantiated fan-theory right now I love the fan theories but it always gets a bit funny when the community really spirals into them like it's the true confirmed story, when it's really just an interpretation of a few scenes.

Not calling anyone out at all, and I actually really like the concept of the Ayaneverse, just more of an observation that there could be plenty of other reasons for it and to not dig too deeply into the Mines of Mayaoria

To be fair, I did make it clear I wasn't exactly awake when I brought up this Ayaneverse thing, lmao:

Definitely possible.

Speaking of Paper City, something that just came to mind is how Ayane isn't apart of the changes. She was immune to Paper City:

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I'm probably just not all there right now, due to the changes and lack of sleep, lmao, but...

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I'm virtually always half asleep.

Overall: Much like the Shapeshifter's name being Himawari or Daisy etc, we won't actually know until we know. Even then, what we know could be revealed to be wrong later on. This game loves playing around with perception and what's real or not.

The only one who actually knows what's going on is Sel, and to be honest, that's more of an assumption, than fact, lol. I know I love keeping myself guessing when I write.

 

[DeSkel15]

Yup. The Ayaneverse was a fun thought experiment back when we only had the t-posed models to work with, but now that we're seeing them in context, I think we can discard it. Especially with Sel stating that the changes are all because of character progression or just teenagers changing their look (Rin's already done this before, after all).

He also very specifically shit on the idea that Rin's inner sadness has gone away, so that definitely did not happen.

I wouldn't buy for a second that Sel just made depression go away for the likes of Rin. It's too personal. Rin also isn't fucking Sensei, so I don't really think Ayane would care that much when it comes to her, anyway.

Edit: it's far more likely that Rin and Otoha just broke up or something. Or seeing Sensei with Sana sent Rin into a midlife crisis lol.

 

[BlackDays]

Choker. The ones that are tight against the neck like Rin and Kirin are wearing are called chokers.

And Chika's is a collar, complete with a tag.

That's funny, because aren't those things for dogs also called collars? Or was that what you were already pointing out?
Because, we have Maya "The stray cat", with a bell... collar? and Chika with a coller with the "Bitch" tag. Which means, afaik
female dog in heat. I think Chika even once cosplayed as a dog girl. So, why did we never had an event that emphasized on this cat and dog fight between Maya and Chika? Or did we, and i forgot?

The content that exists for those games are prototypes for future games. He's already said on the Discord that after LiL is over he's hiring an art team and doing Nothing is Beautiful from scratch.

Only thing i knew, was the part, that he thought about hiring artists for a project after Lil. That being NIB, is new to me.
I just hope that i will be a loose prequel, if at all, with maybe cameos.
Thinking that NIB would have a recognizeable impact on Lil, feels like bloating everything into oblivion.

 

[fdsasdf_p]

That's funny, because aren't those things for dogs also called collars? Or was that what you were already pointing out?
Because, we have Maya "The stray cat", with a bell... collar? and Chika with a coller with the "Bitch" tag. Which means, afaik
female dog in heat. I think Chika even once cosplayed as a dog girl. So, why did we never had an event that emphasized on this cat and dog fight between Maya and Chika? Or did we, and i forgot?

Because Chika was just doing a very sexualized cosplay, and Maya was just being lost in her thoughts. Neither of them really carry the idea of dog or cat traits as their central features. Even if they did, Chika vs Maya, or any cat vs dog pair (Maki vs Chinami?) wouldn’t really give anything meaningful.

Speaking of chokers, I actually happen to know someone who also wore a choker with a bell back in my college days.
His reason was that (yes the insensitive little me asked him bluntly) this was a subtle and low profile announcement that he belonged to someone, and I’ve been picturing Maya being in a similar shoe.

 

[draztastic007]

Any one possibly have a current save? I had to factory reset my computer yesterday and lost all my progress =/ dont want to have to start completely over.

 

[barglenarglezous]

Speaking of chokers, I actually happen to know someone who also wore a choker with a bell back in my college days.
His reason was that (yes the insensitive little me asked him bluntly) this was a subtle and low profile announcement that he belonged to someone, and I’ve been picturing Maya being in a similar shoe.

I assumed this was the case for both Maya and Chika's collars.

 

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Selebus made Rin stand out very clearly. The yellow hair color is striking.

Spoiler: CH4 Rin

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For me, the old image is more harmonious.


Is this a redone art?

Spoiler: CH4 Rin Alt

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Great job! I prefer to see this.

Spoiler: Карта Otoha 4CH

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Otoha has become even more like an older sister. It's great!

That's goddamned right, my Ilyich Kanda, he he

 

[DeSkel15]

Because Chika was just doing a very sexualized cosplay, and Maya was just being lost in her thoughts. Neither of them really carry the idea of dog or cat traits as their central features. Even if they did, Chika vs Maya, or any cat vs dog pair (Maki vs Chinami?) wouldn’t really give anything meaningful.

Speaking of chokers, I actually happen to know someone who also wore a choker with a bell back in my college days.
His reason was that (yes the insensitive little me asked him bluntly) this was a subtle and low profile announcement that he belonged to someone, and I’ve been picturing Maya being in a similar shoe.

Honestly, I think Chika does have some generic "dog" associated qualities.

Chika is loyal and territorial, with well, everything. Niki is the perfect Queen. Sensei is the perfect loyal man. Yumi is a bitch, but she's Chika's bitch. Her home and life is a mess, but it's her mess. Anything comes close to threatening her territory, then Chika will be Chika:

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Maya is more of a "stray cat" than simply a cat though. I think Uta fits the more generic "cat" associated qualities, the best. Even likes being scratched under her chin, which is more of a cat thing imo.

Of course, this is all definitely subjective.

 

[DeSkel15]

Random, but this reminded me of how Otoha referred to Rin as a puppy:

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Which would have been cute, without the "master" bit, imo. That just made it a red flag lmao.

 

[TheLarceny]

Any one possibly have a current save? I had to factory reset my computer yesterday and lost all my progress =/ dont want to have to start completely over.

I dont know if its work on your device, but its a %100 save and its for end of 0.35

 

[barglenarglezous]

Random, but this reminded me of how Otoha referred to Rin as a puppy
Which would have been cute, without the "master" bit, imo. That just made it a red flag lmao.

Some people are into that.

Just sayin'

 

[DeSkel15]

Some people are into that.

Just sayin'

And some people aren't. Still, that's not something that should just slip out, imo.

There's a reason Rin ends up in tears later on and Otoha ends up complaining about her:

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They went into this expecting different things from eachother.

Meanwhile, Wakana is tying Osako up while edging her 24/7, and they are probably the healthiest relationship in the game.

 

[Detective Dc345]

Now that im thinking about it Rin's Chapter 4 design is similar to her Older model(not older as in previous chapters but adult Rin) with her losing the red tips and having just straight black hair in her adult model. But if you give her the black hair and red tips for her Chapter 4 design it seems off and if you give her the blonde and red for her adult model it also seems off. I don't know if its the color schemes of her outfits that make it seem this way but its something I find interesting.

 

[draztastic007]

I dont know if its work on your device, but its a %100 save and its for end of 0.35

It didn't work. Gives a big error code when I try to load it. Thank you for trying though.